So, just watched Frozen, I think the hype backlash has died down, what do you guys think of it?

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TheHeinousAnus

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I loved it. I could see why other people would dislike it but to me personally it was brilliant. I liked the characters. I found it humorous. But over all it fit me as a person and its okay if some else didn't like it. Whether me liking it or some one else hating makes it bad or good move is irrelevant. It was entertaining to me and I will rewatch it many times.
 

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Nigh Invulnerable said:
My wife saw it in theaters with a friend and loved it. Consequently, I heard "Let it Go" a LOT for a while, as everyone and their dog reposted various renditions of the song. Once I actually saw it though, I must admit that I was impressed. Disney has finally stepped a bit outside their traditional mold and made a movie about the love of siblings, instead of a silly "true love" fairy tale again. It's funny and cute, and the music is quite catchy, so I give it a thumbs up. Plus, my 3 year-old son sang "Let it go" while he was sitting on the toilet trying to poop, so that instantly made my day.
The best thing is that it actually was a stereotypical Diseny movie the beginning with Elsa as evil witch and a prince charming but they decided to change the story after the heard th song 'Let it go!'

The song (legal) for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU
 

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It's mediocre at best. I only really enjoyed one song and that was mainly because of Josh Gad and his amazing voice. It was neat, I guess. But I didn't find it very entertaining, maybe it's because I'm older than the age demographic.
 

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MinionJoe said:
It's like, if Butters Stotch was encouraged to tap-dance just a little every day, then maybe all of those people wouldn't have died and he wouldn't be seen as a monster.
Poor Butters. His cries of terror at the end of the episode were more haunting than all the south park style gore in the world.

OT: I fell in love with the movie, just like I did for Wreck It Ralph. I saw it multiple times in theaters, bought the deluxe edition of the soundtrack and the movie, and will probably pick up some merchandise at some point.

That said, I've found that the movie, particularly Elsa's character, is just vague enough where people can come to their own conclusions about it that invariably say more about them as individuals than the movie. I think it's lead to a lot of unnecessary arguments about the film and usually shows most of the unfavorable opinions about the movie to be based more on personal biases than the movie itself.

I remember when everybody was looking forward to Brave as a 'Disney princess movie done right,' and now Disney has basically done just that. They've really been on a roll these last few years (not counting supposed-to-be-straight-to-video Planes), and it's been even more apparent now that Pixar is quietly floundering.

On a related note: anyone saying that the movie was too safe or didn't push [insert topic here] hard enough needs to remember two other Disney movies that did and were crucified by the public for it: Atlantis and The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
 

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Loooooved it. A lot. Too much probably. I mean yeah you've got the focus on two women as opposed to a woman and a man, and Elsa's arc is ultra relatable to anyone who has had to hide parts of themselves to fit into a larger group (which should be practically everyone), and the songs are great and blah blah blah.

What I liked most though was Anna because she's exactly as stupid and overly excited as I am and she's NOT portrayed as a huge dumbass like those kinds of characters usually are. So props to that!
 

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IceForce said:
Well, interestingly, according to some people it's sexist, apparently.
Oh dear god that thread was just aggravating.

I hope you don't mind, but I got bored and put your post through several levels of Google Translate. This was the result.

Nigh Invulnerable said:
My wife saw it in theaters with a friend and loved it. Consequently, I heard "Let it Go" a LOT for a while, as everyone and their dog reposted various renditions of the song. Once I actually saw it though, I must admit that I was impressed. Disney has finally stepped a bit outside their traditional mold and made a movie about the love of siblings, instead of a silly "true love" fairy tale again. It's funny and cute, and the music is quite catchy, so I give it a thumbs up. Plus, my 3 year-old son sang "Let it go" while he was sitting on the toilet trying to poop, so that instantly made my day.
"I saw my wife and watch a movie with friends and their lovers. Because I hear "to" a lot of time, each dog is to buy different versions of the song. When I saw this, and I will admit that I was very impressed. Disney finally step out of tradition and make a movie about the love we have for you, but this is not a "true" story. It's funny and interesting, and the music is one, so I can give a big finger. Also, this song, 3-year-old son, "Let him go," while sitting on the toilet trying to shit, so as soon as I did today."

I am easily amused.

OT: I saw it, didn't think much of it. It's just not for me. I'm not too big on musicals or Disney.

That being said, it was nice to not have the entire thing be about needing to get married. I did find it kind of annoying that it did still pair Anna up.
Wow. Google translate is wacky. What language(s) did you cycle it through?

Frozen has undoubtedly been hyped like mad, but I tried to ignore everyone and just watch it for what it was. I found it enjoyable, and a nice effort from Disney, who's largely been overshadowed by Pixar and Dreamworks releases.
 

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Frozen is grossly overrated and pretentious. There was zero subtlety, and most of the songs were tedious slogs with stock lyrics. About a third of the way in, I was ready for the movie to be over. but it just kept dragging on, and the songs just felt more and more obnoxious. As for the bits that are NOT bad songs, a lot of that was bad too. The bit with the trolls (when they weren't singing) was particularly groan-inducing.

The movie had a good concept, but generally bad writing. I didn't feel obligated to like it.

I'm also tempted to make a Shyamalan joke or two.
 

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I hope Disney pulls another Emporer's New Groove, or Lilo and Stitch before it's too late. Nobody gives a shit about true love stories anymore; or a generically attratctive girl going on a generic adventure utilising various double standards to inflict generic harm on a generically attractive male, then fuck up, have to be rescued by male, then find true love, back on the generic adventure, kill the villian, happily ever after.

I did think Frozen mixed it up a little by having the "villian" be another generically attrative girl who happens to be good. Oh, and the real villian is a gneeric villian... so, no, they didn't mix anything up.

Also, the fucking snowman is not only a generic "funny and charming" sidekick but an annoying one at that.
 

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I liked it quite a bit. Saw a few of the story twists coming, but still enjoyed how they were done. Most of the music is pretty good.

I think Elsa's parents were bad parents. They just hide her away and tell her to wear gloves and not do the magic any more, basically. Yeah, bad idea. They should have found a safe place for her to practice and learn to control it, so she didn't explode out accidentally like she did. And separating her from her sister? Not to mention all the beneficial applications of those powers to help her people? Also I think she's super hot, despite being, well, you know. All icy and stuff.

One bad thing is I imagine there will be a lot of baby girls born in the coming years with the name Elsa, which is a name I liked for a future daughter of mine many long years before that show came out. Now it wouldn't be as unique.

I have to say for the last several years there hasn't been animated movies I enjoyed more than Frozen or The Lego Movie.
 

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I liked Princess and the Frog better (it used it's styles and themes better, and the songs drew of the setting, rather than boring popy ballads) but it was still a good movie. Nothing spectacular, I don't think it deserves the HUGE amount of praise it gets, but it was still very polished.

Also Jack Whitehall was in it, so that's something.
 

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Saw it twice in theaters and personally feel it's the best movie Disney has put out since 1991's Beauty and the Beast.

Funny, progressive, great visuals and music, great characters, genuine twists... it's not perfect, but it's 100% enjoyable throughout.
 

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Eh, I didn't care for it. Focusing the whole film on a few characters in a contained setting is risky, and I don't think the script was strong enough to support it. It also hurts that the characters are only in that situation due to their incredible stupidity. The ending was aggravating too. I can deal with sad endings, but I find I'm less tolerant of them when the film is mediocre. At least a happy ending might leave me with some good feelings, even if the rest of the movie is forgettable. It also sucks that the one character who lived was the one who did the least to get out of the situation.

Gotta feel bad for that guy who broke his legs jumping off the lift and then got eaten by wolves.
 

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Disney has been on a steady streak of awesome since Bolt in 2008, the first movie to be produced under John Lasseters guidance. Then followed Tangled, Frozen etc. All of them good because WDAS returned to the company's roots rather than aping after Pixar.

This is a bit like a new Disney renaissance.
 

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Well, I already made a thread about not liking it, but I'll bite.

I don't really get the appeal. I didn't like the music at all, especially "Let it Go", which I thought had some pretty awful writing. The voice actors were excellent, but the characters were hit and miss. I hated the snowman, probably one of the worst Disney side kicks I've ever seen. The story as a whole had enormous potential, and had it been produced at the height of the Disney Renaissance, it could have been a classic. Unfortunately Disney fired most of its talent, and they haven't made a movie I like in a long time. I didn't thank the movie was bad, just incredibly average.

The Lego Movie completely blew it out of the water though, it was more entertaining and significantly more clever. Heck, even Mr. Peabody and Sherman was more interesting to me. To each his own, I suppose. (But seriously, The Lego Movie was better, I mean come on).
 

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I kinda wish the sister with the god like ice powers wasn't the one that needed to be saved.
That wasn't my impression. If you're talking about her learning how to use her powers properly, that's not a rescue type of thing. Or are you talking about
her sister basically sacrificing herself to keep Hans from murdering her?

In which case... I still don't think that necessarily counts. It wouldn't have happened quite frankly had circumstances basically caused her to go nearly catatonic.
 

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Compared to Princess and the Frog and Wreck it Ralph it was still eh to me.

I guess the reason why the movie gets under my skin is because the sameface syndrome was fucking ridiculous. A habit that's not only discouraged from the art field, but something that can actually inhibit a person from getting in the field.

Not to mention that the lead art director defended said same face with a totally irrelevant complaint about animating hair (which means fuck all about facial structure.)


I know that what the opinions of people working on a film is irrelevant to the film itself, but I can't help but lose a level of respect for the film with the knowledge that some of the people behind it acted like total children in light of legitimate criticism.
 

Dragonbums

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its a shame Princess and the Frog wasn't the kicker they hoped for
They did not advertise that movie nearly enough as they did with Frozen.

I saw Frozen advertisements EVERYWHERE television, internet, blog posts, you name it.

I can hardly remember if Disney even so much as did a television ad for Princess and the Frog.

And if they did, they didn't do it nearly as much as they did with Frozen.

It's not the first time studios had done this. The pulled the same thing with Iron Giant. A movie that got universal praise as an animated film, is a reknowned classic, but had shit advertising, half the theater screenings of the average movie, and fat cats wondered why it "failed"

Same with Treasure Planet.