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The Lawn

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All my friends play TF2 or MNC, sometimes a little BF:BC2...
I haven't touched black ops in months, MW2 even longer...

Being that I hang out with "gamers", and by "gamers" I mean members of the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race, when we encounter one who calls themselves a "Gamer" and they say they play the "Blops" on the "360" we simply tell them we don't play with childrens toys. And then we laugh at them with their forced framerate caps, lower texture resolutions and lower polygon count models while we bask in the glory that is 1900x1200 with X8 MSAA and x16 Anisotropic Filtering.

And then we retreat to our sanctum to play SF4 or MvC3 on our 360 in secret....
 

StormShaun

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Copy cats will always be copy cates, I just hate the up-themselfs gamers that arnt really gamers and they JUST plain suck especially when they talk about their 100400390 killstreak...such dicks
 

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Evil Alpaca said:
Didn't movie Bob do a segment on something like this with D&D nerds versus Sports fans?

The best reason I can think of is that Halo is in a made up universe so it is dismissed as juvenile while Black Ops is the more "mature and edgy" game that talks about real events and therefore is more of an "adult" game. I personally think its hilarious that a super soldier set in the Cold War is somehow more unrealistic than one set in the far future.
Of course, sci-fi/fantasy fans would never look down upon sports fans for their chosen form of entertainment... like Movie Bob does on a fairly regular basis, like dismissing first-person shooter fans as immature jocks :)

There's a lot of snobbery going both ways. In comic fandom, it's pretty easy to find comic fans who treat the super-hero stuff with a bit of scorn (they're the ones who are quick to point out that they like stuff like Preacher, Sandman, or Scott Pilgrim)... then head over to certain corners of the Internet and die-hard super-hero fans are ridiculing fans of those books, accusing them of self-loathing.

I was once accused by a woman with a serious soap opera obsession of "living in a fantasy world" because I spent a good portion of my free time reading science fiction and comics (among other things). And she was the one who talked about fictional characters as if they were real people.

Even among sci-fi fans, you'll see it spring up. When Avatar came out, hard core sci-fi fans branded the movie's fans "Avatards" because they're painting themselves blue and taking the whole thing a bit too seriously.... but going to see the new Harry Potter in Wizard robes or a Star Wars movie in Stormtrooper armor were perfectly acceptable.

As Robert Heinlein once said, "man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal". We are littered with logical contradictions that we absolutely refuse to see.
 

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Squirrelygod said:
What does it matter? Both franchises were driven into the ground and just suck now.
I'm curious to see what the next installments of both franchise bring. Both are going to be handled by a new studio, which traditionally has been the kiss of death for video game franchises.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Halo or Call Of Duty (or both) joining the ranks of Tomb Raider and Sonic in a handful of years.
 

Vitor Goncalves

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Judgement101 said:
You have to have someone to hate, CoD players hate Halo, PS3 hates Xbox 360, and EVERYONE hates the Wii.
Is that why everyone is playing with the Wii? people now seem to do what they hate.
 

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TheTaco007 said:
CoD is a game that anyone can be good at. Halo you need to be a certain kind of gamer to do well. Assholes, especially in early school (middle/high school) hate everyone who's good at things they aren't. Why do you think smart people get picked on? The bullies don't like them, because they get good grades and the bully doesn't. Same concept for video games. Bully is bad at Halo, therefore Halo sucks. Bully is good at CoD, therefore CoD is awesome.
I can't tell if you're trolling or are just bad at FPS. Halo is not any harder than CoD. You do not need to be "a certain type of gamer" to be good at Halo, unless the "certain type of gamer" you're referring to is the type who has played a lot of Halo. Similarly, to be good at CoD, you have to play a lot of CoD. It's called practice, and it works for most things in life you want to get better at.
 

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Vitor Goncalves said:
Judgement101 said:
You have to have someone to hate, CoD players hate Halo, PS3 hates Xbox 360, and EVERYONE hates the Wii.
Is that why everyone is playing with the Wii? people now seem to do what they hate.
You're the kind of person who made me not visit this site in 3 months. Seriously, no one gets the joking sense of it. Apparently everyone has to argue with things that aren't even a major deal.
 

TheTaco007

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Z4N5H1N said:
TheTaco007 said:
CoD is a game that anyone can be good at. Halo you need to be a certain kind of gamer to do well. Assholes, especially in early school (middle/high school) hate everyone who's good at things they aren't. Why do you think smart people get picked on? The bullies don't like them, because they get good grades and the bully doesn't. Same concept for video games. Bully is bad at Halo, therefore Halo sucks. Bully is good at CoD, therefore CoD is awesome.
I can't tell if you're trolling or are just bad at FPS. Halo is not any harder than CoD. You do not need to be "a certain type of gamer" to be good at Halo, unless the "certain type of gamer" you're referring to is the type who has played a lot of Halo. Similarly, to be good at CoD, you have to play a lot of CoD. It's called practice, and it works for most things in life you want to get better at.
I didn't say it was harder, just different. It's more of a niche game. It requires a different set of skills, but it's not necessarily more difficult.
 

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Whoa. Halo? Harder than CoD? The sniper rifle doesn't even have recoil. I mean, come on. Its a simple game. Also, Halo is one of the easiest games to pick up. Shoot at head while walking towards the guy and then melee...Or find a sword or sniper rifle...

Also, and this goes for the OP as well. For the last 10 years the cool kids have been playing games. Halo, Need for Speed, CoD. 20 years ago I'm sure kids would have gotten bullied but I was born in 91 and never got crap for playing games, I got crap for other reasons.
 

Vitor Goncalves

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Judgement101 said:
Vitor Goncalves said:
Judgement101 said:
You have to have someone to hate, CoD players hate Halo, PS3 hates Xbox 360, and EVERYONE hates the Wii.
Is that why everyone is playing with the Wii? people now seem to do what they hate.
You're the kind of person who made me not visit this site in 3 months. Seriously, no one gets the joking sense of it. Apparently everyone has to argue with things that aren't even a major deal.
When so many around here love to hate evrything that is popular and successful without any other reason then the fact it is popular and successful, to the point that even if I initially hated that said thing I actually start to feel sorry for it and liking it. Thats why I couldnt get your "joke", cause usually that is quite serious around here. I am sorry if that sounded personal.
 

Z4N5H1N

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TheTaco007 said:
Z4N5H1N said:
TheTaco007 said:
CoD is a game that anyone can be good at. Halo you need to be a certain kind of gamer to do well. Assholes, especially in early school (middle/high school) hate everyone who's good at things they aren't. Why do you think smart people get picked on? The bullies don't like them, because they get good grades and the bully doesn't. Same concept for video games. Bully is bad at Halo, therefore Halo sucks. Bully is good at CoD, therefore CoD is awesome.
I can't tell if you're trolling or are just bad at FPS. Halo is not any harder than CoD. You do not need to be "a certain type of gamer" to be good at Halo, unless the "certain type of gamer" you're referring to is the type who has played a lot of Halo. Similarly, to be good at CoD, you have to play a lot of CoD. It's called practice, and it works for most things in life you want to get better at.
I didn't say it was harder, just different. It's more of a niche game. It requires a different set of skills, but it's not necessarily more difficult.
What you said is that anyone can be good at CoD, but implied that the same was not true of Halo. You're simply wrong, that's all there is to it. Anyone can be good at either of these games with a reasonable amount of practice. For that matter, anyone can be good at virtually any video game with a reasonable amount of practice. There is no rare genetic trait required to be able to drive a Warthog around Blood Gulch and shoot guys with different colour armor than yours.

Your post reads like that of someone who is trying to convince himself he's different or special because he's passably good at Halo, whereas CoD players are average mooks. Again, this is simply not true; you're the same average mook as all those millions of Black Ops players, you're just a fanboy of a different franchise within the same very narrow genre.
 

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Z4N5H1N said:
TheTaco007 said:
Z4N5H1N said:
TheTaco007 said:
CoD is a game that anyone can be good at. Halo you need to be a certain kind of gamer to do well. Assholes, especially in early school (middle/high school) hate everyone who's good at things they aren't. Why do you think smart people get picked on? The bullies don't like them, because they get good grades and the bully doesn't. Same concept for video games. Bully is bad at Halo, therefore Halo sucks. Bully is good at CoD, therefore CoD is awesome.
I can't tell if you're trolling or are just bad at FPS. Halo is not any harder than CoD. You do not need to be "a certain type of gamer" to be good at Halo, unless the "certain type of gamer" you're referring to is the type who has played a lot of Halo. Similarly, to be good at CoD, you have to play a lot of CoD. It's called practice, and it works for most things in life you want to get better at.
I didn't say it was harder, just different. It's more of a niche game. It requires a different set of skills, but it's not necessarily more difficult.
What you said is that anyone can be good at CoD, but implied that the same was not true of Halo. You're simply wrong, that's all there is to it. Anyone can be good at either of these games with a reasonable amount of practice. For that matter, anyone can be good at virtually any video game with a reasonable amount of practice. There is no rare genetic trait required to be able to drive a Warthog around Blood Gulch and shoot guys with different colour armor than yours.

Your post reads like that of someone who is trying to convince himself he's different or special because he's passably good at Halo, whereas CoD players are average mooks. Again, this is simply not true; you're the same average mook as all those millions of Black Ops players, you're just a fanboy of a different franchise within the same very narrow genre.
Stop trolling.
I'm not a fanboy, in fact I'm kind of mad at the developers for both games, because they didn't live up to the hype.

Anyone can be good at CoD because CoD is exactly like 90% of all other shooters out there. (Though this is probably because everything else in that 90% is a CoD ripoff) The point is that you don't need to spend as much time playing/practicing to be good at that game, because it A: Caters towards noobs (not Black Ops as much as MW2, but it still does.) and B: is highly connection based. (If you find yourself winning every gun-fight in the game, it's not NECESSARILY because you're better than everyone else in your game, but it's probably because you're host.)
Halo, on the otherhand is a much more "out of the box" game. 2 shots doesn't kill anyone, and you need to be able to stay on target longer because of this. There's arguably more strategy involved, because you need to be able to tell when to melee, when to throw a grenade, and when to retreat all while in the middle of a gun fight. (In CoD you'd normally be dead or have killed the other guy before you could make these decisions.) Armor abilities and reticle bloom have also drastically changed the game in terms of strategy. You need to know how to deal with each armor ability, and how to pick yours. Bloom makes keeping on target harder, especially at range, and it means that you really have to pick the right weapon for your combat range. (While the pistol is good at close range, and even though it has a scope, a DMR is better suited for long range combat.)