So Pokemon... Where to next?

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Xeros

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Hero of Lime said:
Xeros said:
Full-scale world.
All regions included.
*Real-time battles akin to the show.
Online multiplayer.

*Optional.
But there is online multiplayer, and it's one of the biggest draws for many players these days. Unless you meant that continuing to have a robust online feature is essential, in which case I agree with you.
Yes, but I also meant being able to explore the world with others online in addition to battling.

Hero of Lime said:
OT: I'm definitely against realistic graphics, a lot of Pokemon themselves would lose a lot of their charm if they were more realistic looking. I think the games currently have the perfect art style for the series.
Complete agreement. The style is not only perfect, but stylized graphics are much more timeless.

Hero of Lime said:
I'm also not opposed to real time battles, but I would want a game separate from the main series RPGs to do that. The battle system in Pokemon has become too deep to just trash it for whole new play style. The metagame would disappear in an instant, turning off a lot of fans. I personally feel turn based combat still has a place in modern RPGs, Pokemon especially.
Very true, and it would require designing play styles for 700+ characters, which is just not feasible. Still, I feel it's about time we had a proper, full-scale Pokemon game on console, and that would be a great way to differentiate it from the handheld titles. That said, the turn-based system is incredibly deep, so I wouldn't be at all opposed to it assuming they kept the grand scale. Hell, they could even build off of it to make something truly unique.
 

xaszatm

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Realize that the game is popular among its main audience and stop trying to force it to cater to adults only? Seriously, why do you guys want pokemon to "grow up" when its main audience is still children? Furthermore, why do you always go to the same "MMO" banner? Please tell me any difference making it an MMO would do. How would it enhance the experience? You already can battle and trade with anyone in the world. Level and EV training are now easier than ever. All of the "elite" pokemon are available for capture on the games without having to back them up. You don't want a Pokemon MMO. You want a different game with Pokemon slapped on the cover. And you can get that anyways if you took five seconds to look at the myriad of spin-offs available.
 

bigfatcarp93

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I too would like a fully 3D game, preferably on consoles. Unreal's great and all, but may I recommend the Source engine? Also, while I new gen in this world would be cool, I'd REALLY like some fully 3D remakes ASAP.
 

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I'm happy with them as handhelds, though I'm surprised they haven't given a full 3D battling game a go this gen, ala Pokemon Stadium. Also, I'm surprised there hasn't been a sequel to Pokemon Snap, given that the 3DS and Wii U both have cameras.

As for where I want the main series to go, that's easy: fuckin' 'Straya, mate. In a series about capturing dangerous monsters, how have they done America and France before doing the country known for it's unique (and deadly) wildlife?
 

Hero of Lime

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Xeros said:
Hero of Lime said:
But there is online multiplayer, and it's one of the biggest draws for many players these days. Unless you meant that continuing to have a robust online feature is essential, in which case I agree with you.
Yes, but I also meant being able to explore the world with others online in addition to battling.

Hero of Lime said:
OT: I'm definitely against realistic graphics, a lot of Pokemon themselves would lose a lot of their charm if they were more realistic looking. I think the games currently have the perfect art style for the series.
Complete agreement. The style is not only perfect, but stylized graphics are much more timeless.

Hero of Lime said:
I'm also not opposed to real time battles, but I would want a game separate from the main series RPGs to do that. The battle system in Pokemon has become too deep to just trash it for whole new play style. The metagame would disappear in an instant, turning off a lot of fans. I personally feel turn based combat still has a place in modern RPGs, Pokemon especially.
Very true, and it would require designing play styles for 700+ characters, which is just not feasible. Still, I feel it's about time we had a proper, full-scale Pokemon game on console, and that would be a great way to differentiate it from the handheld titles. That said, the turn-based system is incredibly deep, so I wouldn't be at all opposed to it assuming they kept the grand scale. Hell, they could even build off of it to make something truly unique.
Right after I had posted my response, I figured you meant online co-op. :p That would be pretty interesting if done right.

xaszatm said:
Realize that the game is popular among its main audience and stop trying to force it to cater to adults only? Seriously, why do you guys want pokemon to "grow up" when its main audience is still children? Furthermore, why do you always go to the same "MMO" banner? Please tell me any difference making it an MMO would do. How would it enhance the experience? You already can battle and trade with anyone in the world. Level and EV training are now easier than ever. All of the "elite" pokemon are available for capture on the games without having to back them up. You don't want a Pokemon MMO. You want a different game with Pokemon slapped on the cover. And you can get that anyways if you took five seconds to look at the myriad of spin-offs available.
I'm definitely not interested in an MMO either. It would be cool for the hypothetical super console Pokemon game to have a place in the game dedicated to feeling like an MMO. Though I would rather have it be a huge single player adventure reminiscent of the mainline games. Maybe it could feature even more enhanced player interaction for those who want it.
 

Silentpony_v1legacy

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I say space!
We need giant monstrous space Pokemon invading Earth and destroying cities.
Then humanity can build giant robots, learn there needs to be two pilots to operate them, and combat the Pokemon one-by-one for decades.

Points if we can find a way to get GLaDOS in somewhere.
 

rosac

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An all regions game. That would sell it for me immediately, especially if there are different versions where the starting region (and therefore starters) are different. Give an overarching baddy (cough team rocket cough cough) and off we go.
 

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I don't think an "all regions game" would work very well. Like, either you must leave behind all pokémon when you go to a new region, or every region will have a levelspan of about 10 levels, from the first gym leader to the region champion. Look at Gold-Silver-Crystal and remakes. The three final gyms in Johto are within ten levels of eachother (Chucks Poliwrath at level 31 and Clairs Kingdra at 41). And then the champions ace is at level 50, just to be able to fit another region in there. I don't think adding more regions after that would be more fun.

One thing I would think would be fun would be that instead of a remake (lets say Kanto for example), gf would make a "revisit" of the region. Possibly taking place some time after the original game there, like you start out in Fushia or Celadon instead of in Pallet, and have to go through the region in a completely different order then in the original games (kind of b2w2 did to unova).
That and the return of the battle factory and the world tournament would make me happy.
 

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Josh123914 said:
British Isles, with 2 separate sets of Gym leaders.

A man can dream....
Not sure that is a good idea. Half of the NPCs will be complaining about the weather while the other half will complain about how the current government is useless and how party X would be so much better.

...

Actually, that last bit would be a good little run for the antagonists of the region by going for a political intrigue route with the "villains" gaining support despite being exactly the same as the current administration.
 

Hero in a half shell

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I'd love an MMO, but one that wasn't restrictive, or full of waiting mechanics or F2P paywalls. Also giving a lot more freedom (being able to choose from a much wider range of starter Pokemon)

Zero Syndicate said:
As much as I'd like to see an MMO, it really shouldn't happen. It won't live up to the expectations that we've set for it already. It won't work if they instance it and keep only a set amount of people running about the world because it'd be too barren. Then if we did let people roam free we have to worry about balancing, no need for high level trainers running about harassing the low level ones. Also how would we take the legendary Pokemon into this setting?
I would imagine the best way to do it would be to have specific areas or tournament buildings for PvP, the rest being EvP, so you wouldn't have to worry about other players (like Runescape's non PvP worlds.)

It would also be really cool to have pokemon jobs you could train at. Take your Pikachu down to the Power Station and help fuel the world by filling up some industrial batteries with electricity, or bring your Sandshrew down to the quarry to dig out rocks for construction, Have your Oddish plant crops, Machoke build houses etc. with each 'job' having a tonne of fun minigames that you could compete against other players at, rewards of experience and money being awarded per rank.
 

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As neat as it would be, I just don't see a full 3D console Pokemon game working out. Ditto for an MMO. Like with Monster Hunter, Pokemon's portability is one of it largest selling points. If anything of the sort ever exists, I figure it will be on the next generation of handhelds.
 

kilenem

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Combine all of the regions into one massive game that Levels scales like Borderlands.
 

Raddra

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Not sure how well an MMO would work for mainstream pokemon, but a mystery dungeon type MMO with randomised dungeon content might be really cool.
 

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All I want is a version with no exclusives and a slight buff to Vulpix :p
For an MMO there's that Pokemon World Online unofficial thingie (is it still running?), but something official might be interesting.
 

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I actually once made a thing in user reviews saying everything I wanted in a new Pokemon game. Letting me choose any Pokemon I wanted as my starter, no more trade evolutions or an NPC who can do it in game, and a singular game with all regions and Pokemon avaible.

But being realistic, they can just keep doing what they're doing now. The games are better than ever. I like the guy above who suggested a U.K./Ireland mixup for the next with each having different gym leaders.
 

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Stay exactly where it is. Except...just on a larger scale, really. Fully 3D environments and such. Make sure you get the animations and attacks just right, since I think some of the animations in the 3D Pokemon games we've gotten have been a bit wonky.

I still have no idea why they never entertained the idea of multiple regions being in multiple games rather than just Gen 2.
 

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Scarim Coral said:
I would like them to ditched the turn based battle in favour of real time battle like the cartoon. No I'm not saying they should also ditch the statergies behind it, more like you have to think about your movement and timing of your attack than to button mash all the time!
Ditching the turn based combat WOULD ditch the strategies behind it. Button mashing isn't how you win pokemon battles against other people. It's more like playing chess.

Aerosteam said:
People want the series to change to real-time battles?

Well ffffuuuuuuuuckk that.
Yeah that always seems to come up. Generally on the basis that the game has no strategy, despite having one the most rich, complex and reasonably diverse metas...ever, I'd say.
 

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I wonder if they'll ever "time-skip" the series to have it become a bit more refreshing leaving room to refresh the games.
 

Auron225

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I'm not convinced that having all regions in one game would be a good thing.

I did like it in Gold/Silver (and their remakes) that you could go back to Kanto (it blew my mind that it was possible back in Silver/Gold when I was like 10), but really, it was basically a whistle-stop tour of the region purely to take down the gym leaders and sort out the handful of side quests that were available. Nobody should have spent anywhere near as much time in Kanto as they did in Johto. Can you imagine heading to Hoenn afterwards to do the same thing there? Or Unova or Sinnoh or Kalos after that?

Sure, they could MAKE you leave all your current Pokemon behind to start fresh in the new region - but then why not just play a different Pokemon game? I find I'm satisfied with a standard games length as is. I don't think I'd have it in me to run around a whole new region after finishing 2 regions at most, and the amount of time needed to run through every region available must surely be close enough to 200 hours.