So Prop. 19 didnt go through (the one about Legalizing Marijuana)
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One could say that your examples of pro-legalization propaganda aren't half-truths, but such blatant balls-crazy flat-out lies that anyone who believes them is not exactly prone to die from a brain tumor. One could say that, and hear absolutely no argument from me. I know that both sides are always guilty in an issue like this, but I also know that one side has superior resources. Also, what exactly are you referring to with the part of your post I emboldened?Ultratwinkie said:
I don't think that any person but the lowliest chronic honestly believes that heavy pot-use does anything good to you. As with most intoxicating substances, the key is moderation. Even so, that doesn't matter in the grand scope of things, as it all boils down to this: As long as what I'm doing doesn't harm another living being, it is none of anyone's fucking business.
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If you're talking about this:Kurt Cristal said:
You've got to be kidding. It's not "well reasoned", it's a joke.
Literally.
If I go and vote for Chick B and she isn't elected, but Guy A is, why don't I have a right to complain?
I didn't help him become elected.
I did the opposite, I opposed him being elected by voting for Chick B rather than Guy A.
The non-voters did nothing, they didn't support or oppose Guy A.
So when Guy A is an ass who starts a war, they can't say:
"Oh well you voted, you should have voted harder to make Chick B win."
But I voted for Chick B, I think I have a right to say:
"Well why didn't you help me vote more, we could have beaten Guy A."
How is inaction preferrable to trying and failing to fix problems?
Would you choose to sit in a fire, or would you get out?
If there's someone lighting a fire, do you think throwing water on the fire is better that standing by? George Carlin's logic in his piece is that, by attempting to put the fire out, I have helped to light it!
This logic means we should never do anything ever unless we know we will win!
If someone kicks your mum in the teeth, and you do nothing, is that better than kicking him in the nads and your mum still having her teeth kicked out?
Or possibly, kicking him in the nads and your mum kicking his teeth out?
I don't think so.
By not voting you're letting them kick your mum's teeth out. (Metaphoricly)
Who cares? Federal law trumps state and local law, california should just break off and drown everyone ass backwards enough to choose to live there.
an englishman here with a few observations, We all(by we i mean us mostly stable reasonable adults) understand the importance of democracy, we see that the majority decision is the optimal way to make important national or international decisions, am i right?
and yet even those of us who understnd this still make the statement "if you didnt vote you dont get to complain about the outcome" which is true for its own part(even though in my opinion if you choose not to vote you don't deserve democracy at all!) in my opinion your choice to live in a democracy means that even if you we the voters do get off our collective butts to vote, we are submiting ourselves to the majority rule, and therefore those of us who vote and dont win still bear no real right to complain. in fact when you reason it out the only people who should be complaing about government are those who vote for the winner, as they are the ones who put that person/law in place.
P.S. and well formed opinions to the contrary of what i have outlined here would be welcomed as a PM. i do so love a good discussion.
P.P.S i agree that the george carlin view is tottally screwed and entirely backward, inaction does not give you the right to complain, it just proves your unwillingnes to maybe, occasionally, possibly, not win every battle, that in my opinion is cowardice, not reason.
and yet even those of us who understnd this still make the statement "if you didnt vote you dont get to complain about the outcome" which is true for its own part(even though in my opinion if you choose not to vote you don't deserve democracy at all!) in my opinion your choice to live in a democracy means that even if you we the voters do get off our collective butts to vote, we are submiting ourselves to the majority rule, and therefore those of us who vote and dont win still bear no real right to complain. in fact when you reason it out the only people who should be complaing about government are those who vote for the winner, as they are the ones who put that person/law in place.
P.S. and well formed opinions to the contrary of what i have outlined here would be welcomed as a PM. i do so love a good discussion.
P.P.S i agree that the george carlin view is tottally screwed and entirely backward, inaction does not give you the right to complain, it just proves your unwillingnes to maybe, occasionally, possibly, not win every battle, that in my opinion is cowardice, not reason.
If you live in a free coutry the you have the right to put any substance into your body.
Just stay the fuck away from my house.
Just stay the fuck away from my house.
A triumph for democracy, but still unbalanced voting
I really didn't expect it to pass because most of the people who voted against it are conservative drones who daily crush coal into diamonds with their uptight sphincter muscles (you can expect high voter turnout here).
It's essentially them versus the pot smokers (many of whom probably didn't even leave their houses that day. Not all of them, but just enough).
I really didn't expect it to pass because most of the people who voted against it are conservative drones who daily crush coal into diamonds with their uptight sphincter muscles (you can expect high voter turnout here).
It's essentially them versus the pot smokers (many of whom probably didn't even leave their houses that day. Not all of them, but just enough).
If you dident vote (Yea i saw it before) then you really have no right to complain about it.Azaraxzealot said:
Besides Marijuana makes no sense, like all smoking, your inhaling smoke, somthing that harms the body, its stupid.
People here in British Columbia were worried that, if this bill passed, B.C's economy might suffer because of the loss of the illegal Marijuana trade. Even the illegal grow ops here help the economy and most of the Marijuana produced here goes to California, and losing you guys would put all the Grow ops here out business... and I honestly can't tell if that's a good thing or not.
This news always interests me. I'm from Australia and legalizing MJ is never a big issue here. There is the ocassional party that has "We aim to legalize certain drugs including....." written in small font at the bottom of their website, but it's never been an issue.
On topic, I wouldn't really care either way. It sounds kinda apathetic to say that, but I wouldn't do it personally, but as long as the restrictions were put into place (Like how you can't come in to work drunk or operate heavy machinery while sedated) I can't see it being a big deal.
On a personal level, I don't even drink or smoke, so I wouldn't even notice if tobacco or alcohol were banned.
But take away my chocolate... and there will be WAR =3
On topic, I wouldn't really care either way. It sounds kinda apathetic to say that, but I wouldn't do it personally, but as long as the restrictions were put into place (Like how you can't come in to work drunk or operate heavy machinery while sedated) I can't see it being a big deal.
On a personal level, I don't even drink or smoke, so I wouldn't even notice if tobacco or alcohol were banned.
But take away my chocolate... and there will be WAR =3
I think he means on a larger scale. I mean, technically, tobacco can be inhaled the same way, but you don't see people pulling out their vaporizers on lunch break.Gaz6231 said:
On a large-scale production with the pure intent of making money, cigarette-style would be the most efficient way.
Yes that is true, i know Ive been adversely affected by people close to me smoking weed, Ive seen what it has done to them and thats my view of it. Funny you should mention that exact line about doctors and lawyers lol, one of my mates who smokes weed said that to me pretty much exactly like that about a month ago, i replied "So where do you work again" he replied "At a petrol station" i just looked at him and laughed, he then says "But people like that are out there" LOL.Xzi said:
And what in that is meant to prove its still better than driving whilst not under the influence of drugs?The_root_of_all_evil said:
The attached video?THEfog101 said:
Usually it's a lot better to be driving while not under the influence of anything, but it's only that that carries a criminal charge. Which would seem to be unfairly.