Damn dude, that really sucks. You could'a told me on twitter and I would've signed it earlier. D:Agent Larkin said:snip
Let's hope the petition works, and that it doesn't spread to England as well. Dx
Damn dude, that really sucks. You could'a told me on twitter and I would've signed it earlier. D:Agent Larkin said:snip
How can you point to any other parties supporting it thus far? When the other parties and their TDs get their finger out of their nose we'll talk. So no it is not childish to attack a party that is supposed to be for workers, worker's rights, students and etc that has obviously forgotten how it is supposed to be representing.Captain Booyah said:Exclusively attacking Labour is childish. Every party is just as bad as the next, and politicians will be pushing SOPA and its brethren regardless of where they lie on the spectrum. If there's a problem with anything, then it's the generational divide between young and old that's present to some extent in pretty much every party.Glademaster said:This is what happens when you vote in Labour on the back of false promises. Fucking ignorant twats can't even fucking run a democracy right. I swear to God a shit on a brick would have a better chance at actually fucking running this country than those idiotic, silver spoon, corrupted low lives.
I wasn't attacking your right to hold an opinion, or saying that Labour wouldn't be wrong for supporting it. What I meant was that regardless of what a party's meant to stand for, it'll be the older politicians that'll probably be the issue, not the party's particular beliefs/policies. Your original post just led me to believe that you had a grudge against Labour in particular. Ireland's SOPA is new to me, so I don't know exactly who is and who isn't supporting it at the moment, but Lamar Smith was a Republican, so that was what I meant about any supporter's political affiliation probably being irrelevant, and that it mainly rests on how ignorant they are of the Internet.Glademaster said:How can you point to any other parties supporting it thus far? When the other parties and their TDs get their finger out of their nose we'll talk. So no it is not childish to attack a party that is supposed to be for workers, worker's rights, students and etc that has obviously forgotten how it is supposed to be representing.Captain Booyah said:Exclusively attacking Labour is childish. Every party is just as bad as the next, and politicians will be pushing SOPA and its brethren regardless of where they lie on the spectrum. If there's a problem with anything, then it's the generational divide between young and old that's present to some extent in pretty much every party.Glademaster said:This is what happens when you vote in Labour on the back of false promises. Fucking ignorant twats can't even fucking run a democracy right. I swear to God a shit on a brick would have a better chance at actually fucking running this country than those idiotic, silver spoon, corrupted low lives.
As much as I would like to given the current coalition I can't assume Fine Gael is officially supporting it.
It is my vote and if I wish to voice my opinion on any party be they Fine Gael, Fine Fáil, Greens, Sinn Féin, etc I am welcome to do so and it is not childish. So yes when the other parties actually have any remote stance on this subject that is in anyway pro passing this I will attack them.
So yeah when the only politician to really talk about it is a Labour one I can only talk about Labour party.
I liked your post and all, but it's not a bail out. We have to pay the money back eventually so acting like we don't will make things worse when everyone's surprised in a few years time because there's this giant loan to pay back that they don't remember.Ragsnstitches said:Hell no brah, that's shit sorted... bail out allllll the way! What's the worst that can happen?
My opening point reeked with sarcasm, though that rarely seems to translate well on the web.Thespian said:I liked your post and all, but it's not a bail out. We have to pay the money back eventually so acting like we don't will make things worse when everyone's surprised in a few years time because there's this giant loan to pay back that they don't remember.Ragsnstitches said:Hell no brah, that's shit sorted... bail out allllll the way! What's the worst that can happen?
(So yes, the economy is even slightly worse than general consensus would lead you to believe)
And personally, yeah oppression sucks and everything but if it means AT-ATs on O Connell street I'd have to throw my lot in with the evil overlords.
The sad fact is the majority of the Students that David Cameron has alienated have no understanding of the Fee system, the level of the shit we were in economically.The Unworthy Gentleman said:Undoubtedly so. That doesn't mean the majority of the English youth don't despise him for creating a debt for all of us. I don't care all that much, it's money that I'll never see, that I'll never know I had, and I'll be safe from bankers breathing down my neck the second I graduate; if I graduate; if I get in. But I know it's there, the generation thrown into the fees knows it's there and that's enough to piss people off.Talshere said:And yet, his alienation was required in order to fix a very real problem, you can find it here: http://www.debtbombshell.com . My only regret, I fear he hasnt fixed it, in trying to hard to not piss people off, he introduced only half measures that pleased noone and fixed nothing.
It doesn't need to be real and it doesn't need to affect you, it just needs to be thought and people will hate it. It's all numbers on a computer screen, the pennies never reach the student's hands and the debt won't be paid off in full for most, especially considering interest, but they're aware they have it and it drives them mad.
My apoligies but at that exact moment I was in too much of a blind rage to think rationally.sky14kemea said:Damn dude, that really sucks. You could'a told me on twitter and I would've signed it earlier. D:Agent Larkin said:snip
Let's hope the petition works, and that it doesn't spread to England as well. Dx