So today is the 15th anniversary of Kurt Cobain's death

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bjj hero

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thecaptainof said:
I'm not the biggest Nirvana fan in the world - I have all their albums, but I wouldn't go around wearing their t-shirt or whatever. He was a decent songwriter and played his instrument competently enough to do what he wanted to do with it... I fail to see how he's talentless. Not everyone is Steve Vai or that bloke from Dream Theater, nor should they have to be.
Ability doesnt equate awesome music. Look at Herman "shred" Lee. He can do amazing things with a guitar but Dragonforce is hardly amazing music.
 

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I like Nirvana, my brother lives thought thier rise and fall and passed their music onto me. If you dont like it then fair enough, im not a huge fan of elvis but you dont see me going on about how he died and its so many years since.
 

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bjj hero said:
thecaptainof said:
I'm not the biggest Nirvana fan in the world - I have all their albums, but I wouldn't go around wearing their t-shirt or whatever. He was a decent songwriter and played his instrument competently enough to do what he wanted to do with it... I fail to see how he's talentless. Not everyone is Steve Vai or that bloke from Dream Theater, nor should they have to be.
Ability doesnt equate awesome music. Look at Herman "shred" Lee. He can do amazing things with a guitar but Dragonforce is hardly amazing music.
Er, yeah, that's what I was saying.
 

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Druggie who took his own life. Why should we care?
I mean, it's too bad he died so young, but at the same time, we really can't be too sad or surprised, considering his self-made issues.
 

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Nirvana has a number of nice songs, but if someone dies from overdose... you shouldn't mourn him.
 

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bjj hero said:
thecaptainof said:
Er, yeah, that's what I was saying.
I know, I was agreeing and supporting your statement.

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Fair play mate, my bad... it's been a long day already :p

Time for a cup of tea, I'm going that way. ---->
 

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One guy who groaned into a microphone for a living blows his own head off for brutally selfish reasons. People mourn 15 years later.

The same day, nearly a million people start getting hacked to death with machetes for being born of the wrong parents. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwanda_genocide] No one says a damned thing today.

Once more I'm reminded that the Internet is like a giant bowl of goldfish.

-- Steve
 

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thecaptainof said:
Fair play mate, my bad... it's been a long day already :p

Time for a cup of tea, I'm going that way. ---->
I can make time for tea. Ill get the chocolate hob nobs.
 

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I notice all the people who don't like his music or get it are aged 20 and under. It's a very generational moment. Kind of like I don't understand how big a deal it was when Elvis, Hendrix, or Lennon died. It's just you have to have been a certain age at the time.
You have to realize at the time of his death he was a megastar and nearly everyone 14+ was awaiting any music he produced. I was 14 at the time it was a big deal. Also all those bands (which I personally dont like) like Puddle of Mud, Nickleback, Staind, Linkin Park, and whathave you sprang forth from Nirvana.
The soft playing followed by a sudden harder and louder sound and going back. Was unheard of in the mainstream at the time.

He accomplished a lot that's why he's recognized.
(PS Alice In Chains is better)


Sandag said:
Nirvana has a number of nice songs, but if someone dies from overdose... you shouldn't mourn him.
He took narcotics to deal with an undiagnosed stomach pain that was reported to sometimes put him in a coma like state of constant pain; hurting him so badly that he couldn't stand up and would vomit; ect. Imagine feeling like that every single day. Oh and getting a divorce. Even I - a former Narc Officer - can see how that would drive you to use heroin.
 

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chaser[phoenix said:
]Shotgun death is crazy though.
Like, is that was drugs do? Make you crazy enough to be like "oh hey, this fully loaded death machine could never harm me if I pulled th---" of course then *bam* or *bang* or *gun sound*.
No, that's what becoming a massive star, having anything you want whenever you want, then trying to live up to this image perpetuated by the media of how rock stars should behave, along with cronic depression, a crazy wife AND drugs does to you.
 

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ace_of_something said:
Sandag said:
Nirvana has a number of nice songs, but if someone dies from overdose... you shouldn't mourn him.
He took narcotics to deal with an undiagnosed stomach pain that was reported to sometimes put him in a coma like state of constant pain; hurting him so badly that he couldn't stand up and would vomit; ect. Imagine feeling like that every single day. Oh and getting a divorce. Even I - a former Narc Officer - can see how that would drive you to use heroin.
I get what you're saying, but would you kill someone just to save him the pain?
Suicide is murder, it's just the victim that separates the two. I can't judge Kurt for what he did, sure, but I still think what he did was wrong. And it cost him his life.
 

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For a, "Talentless hack," he certainly made a lot of waves in the music industry and pretty much revolutionized a genre.

Kurt Cobain will not be forgotten.

"With the lights out it's less dangerous.

Here we are now.

Entertain us."
 

Daveman

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good ridance, nirvana were rubbish, the only song I've heard by them I liked was a cover of "the man who sold the world"
 

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Anton P. Nym said:
One guy who groaned into a microphone for a living blows his own head off for brutally selfish reasons. People mourn 15 years later.

The same day, nearly a million people start getting hacked to death with machetes for being born of the wrong parents. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwanda_genocide] No one says a damned thing.

Once more I'm reminded that the Internet is like a giant bowl of goldfish.

-- Steve
Theres no mourning as such, were discussing a point in time for music. There have been millions of tragedies throughout time. Man has form for douchebaggery against his fellow man. Yes Rawanda was horrible, you want a cookie?

I posted on the OPs topic, its common on forums. If you feel so strongly about it then start a thread slo we can discuss it or get off your soap box.
 

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Inarticulate_Underachiever said:
I honestly have no idea why all the music magazines (at least where I live) are making a big deal out of it. The guy was a talentless hack that shamelessly ripped off his favourite artists. He deserves only a minute amount of the credit given to him.
for a talentless hack, he sure had a very popular band AND still have a popular band, Smells like Teen Spirit still ranks #1 on a lot of top music lists

Sandag said:
Nirvana has a number of nice songs, but if someone dies from overdose... you shouldn't mourn him.
ok so it's ok to mourn him, he didn't die of an overdose :)

i still remember when he died i was actually wearing a nirvana tshirt
 

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To call the man a hack is unkind. He wasn't the second coming and there's no excuse for the cult of Kurt's death who moan about his demise, but it was a shame all the same.