So... Uh... What the hell, Australia?!?!

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SaneAmongInsane said:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/meast/embassy-attacks-main/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

So basically, now there protesting at U.S. embassy in freaking AUSTRALIA...

So... I ask, what the hell is up with Australia hating us 'Mericans now?
Before I give you my opinion, bare in mind 3 important details of my life.

1. I have lived in America for a short time (6 months). I have American friends. (Who are very intelligent people.)
2. A majority of my friends are very very dodgey Eastern-Europeans.
3. This view is formed from what I see and read, as well as hear from my friends.

We've all hated America for a very long time. '...hating us 'Mericans now', only the 'now' really surprises me. It's been there for a long...long time.

but that's besides the point in regards to the article.
I don't know why the wogs are attacking. I assume they've had beef with you guys ever since you decided to invade their country. I reckon it's pretty ridiculous. If they don't like the system, either move to a country with the appropriate system, live appropriately to your chosen system (no system I'm aware of condones destruction and rioting), or go through appropriate channels to try and change the system.
 

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"Obama, Obama, we like Osama"? There's no way I can take those Australian protesters seriously.

And I highly doubt a bunch of protesters speak for the whole Australian population.
I'd like to thank you for assuming that, Not all of us are crazy. The crazy ones show up to the protests.
 

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so a bunch of people protest at an embassy and that makes all us aussies hate americans how ?
Because clearly everyone who lives in a country thinks exactly the same way. There are never any dissenters in a country who make their difference of opinion known through public protest. That just can't happen; we all agree on everything with everyone even vaguely associated with our country.
Uh weren't you guys invited to the big meeting where we decided our collective stance on everything?
What? There was a meeting for that? I was at the one where the meeting was first announced but I was sick for the second meeting where everything was finally scheduled. Crap! Now I have to report for reprimand and can't use the handshake for three whole months! Everyone will know ... damn it. Two more strikes and I'M deported. I've already been to re-education once before.
 

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I am getting so tired of seeing muslim lunatics in the news every time I go on a news site. We've been tolerant for years, but I'm getting fed up of them being allowed to hate, despise and mock us when we can't even so much as look at them without being called racist. All they ever do is mock our way of life every chance they get when if someone speaks out a sentance against them they use it as an excuse to riot.

Just imagine if we punished them just as much as they us whenever they say something bad about us.
What this person said. I am so sick and tired of lunatics ruining things for everyone else... Makes me wish we could send them of-planet or something... but that's just me.
Well, fortunately, the usual racist bigots have been SMSing each other (like they do) and they are planning to attack the next protest, so that's one riot each.
 

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Revolutionary said:
Goofguy said:
"Obama, Obama, we like Osama"? There's no way I can take those Australian protesters seriously.

And I highly doubt a bunch of protesters speak for the whole Australian population.
I'd like to thank you for assuming that, Not all of us are crazy. The crazy ones show up to the protests.
Every country has its sane people, the difference being in proportions. It's the crazy ones that make the news and give the country a bad name.
 

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Goofguy said:
Revolutionary said:
Goofguy said:
"Obama, Obama, we like Osama"? There's no way I can take those Australian protesters seriously.

And I highly doubt a bunch of protesters speak for the whole Australian population.
I'd like to thank you for assuming that, Not all of us are crazy. The crazy ones show up to the protests.
Every country has its sane people, the difference being in proportions. It's the crazy ones that make the news and give the country a bad name.
That's because it makes better news.

"The vast majority of the country went about their daily business without any drama or doing anything crazy."

Isn't going to sell a paper.
 

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Hahahaha. So because a few crazy Islamic extremists violently protest outside an American embassy (like what has been happening all over world because of that film), it means we as a nation hate America?

If anything I'd say we love America a little too much. Your culture is massive and well loved over here.
 

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Isn't fox news the place that tried to fuck over the Torture Game ("bleeding red blood" bahahaha) and tried to call Valve to answer to the "Fatty, adopted fatty" line in Portal 2?
 

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Yeah as an Aussie lemme just say that the Muslims doing al the violent riots don't represent Australia.... Thats like saying the KKK represents America's opinion of all other races.

I even know a few people who are muslims and they're embarresed aswell as angry about how they all cop the blame for the way those thugs in Sydney are acting.

People with hate in their hearts and minds will be violent no matter what race, religion or cause they belong to.
This message (in particular the bold) needs to be said loud enough so that the entire interwebs hears it.

captch: leave me alone
xenophobic much?

Interesting side note on the topic of US/AU relations.
Something i heard from an auzzie on bill maher a little while ago. so i don't know how accurate this actually is, but apparently australia has gone in on every military campaign america has taken up for a long time now.
 

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Ohhhh....kaaaaayyyy.......

A group of people protesting in Australia means the consensus as a whole hates America?

....nice thinking. You may need to work the kinks out of your theory though.
 

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Kakistos153 said:
Interesting side note on the topic of US/AU relations.
Something i heard from an auzzie on bill maher a little while ago. so i don't know how accurate this actually is, but apparently australia has gone in on every military campaign america has taken up for a long time now.
Not quite. Without special circumstances Australia considers it's 'Spheres of Action' (places they'll show up with guns) to be the South Pacific, Asia, Eastern Africa and Southern Africa. Since World War 2 anytime the US military has been in those areas to ruin someone's day, Australia has also had a military presence.
 

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Oh please. There are already anti-Muslim protests in Australia because of this, I hardly think you can generalise. The Muslim community is pretty insular, just because they can't take a joke doesn't reflect on anyone else in Australia. Even then it's not even most Muslims.
 

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Are you kidding? We love America. Just about everyone I know is either entertained/inspired by something American or British.

Same goes for my muslim friends. They ignored the crappy movie and just focused on the good aspects.
 

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Just as there have been Islamic protests all over the world, there was an 'unsanctioned' protest two weekends ago in Sydney. It got violent, and the riot police had to use tear gas on some protesters. Many of the aggressive protesters had their faces plastered all over the front page of the Sydney newspapers the following day, and 'some' have been charged with affray and other offenses, and some actually denied bail.

It really is a shame that it wasn't a peaceful protest. It has already been condemned by the local Islamic leaders, and they have urged people not to plan any others. What really makes this saddening, is that many of the protesters come from families that have fled to Australia to leave this kind of violence behind, and they are now perpetuating this violence in our great country, and giving Islam a bad name.
 

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pro_family_lover said:
Grenge Di Origin said:
Can anybody please tell me why the US embassy is being attacked, what factors are affecting and causing this?

I'm an American, and my heart is completely open to the grandeur of the peoples and cultures of the land down under, and I want to understand them... I don't want to generalize, I want to understand.
I think Australia is upset over that anti-Islam video. They just didn't seem to think it was appropriate.
No a few idiotic religious types are upset over someone exercising the right of free speech.
Muslims are just going to have to learn to shut up and take it like the rest
 

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DisgruntledOwl said:
pro_family_lover said:
Grenge Di Origin said:
Can anybody please tell me why the US embassy is being attacked, what factors are affecting and causing this?

I'm an American, and my heart is completely open to the grandeur of the peoples and cultures of the land down under, and I want to understand them... I don't want to generalize, I want to understand.
I think Australia is upset over that anti-Islam video. They just didn't seem to think it was appropriate.
No a few idiotic religious types are upset over someone exercising the right of free speech.
Muslims are just going to have to learn to shut up and take it like the rest
What? Idiotic religious types?

Yes, everyone who is Muslim has the right to be upset at that video.

However, ONLY the EXTREMISTS were the ones rioting.

Are you honestly saying someone could make a movie about Chrisianity/Buddhism/Americans/New Zealanders/ANY FREAKING GROUP and portray them or what they believe negatively, and they don't have the right to be upset because of "HURRR HURR FREE SPEECH"?

Free Speech doesn't mean you can go around insulting anyone you fucking feel like, and it also doesn't mean you can get away with no consequences. Maybe not consequences from the government, but from society? Yeah, prepare to be ostracized the shit away from everyone.
 

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glchicks said:
dumbseizure said:
DisgruntledOwl said:
pro_family_lover said:
Grenge Di Origin said:
Can anybody please tell me why the US embassy is being attacked, what factors are affecting and causing this?

I'm an American, and my heart is completely open to the grandeur of the peoples and cultures of the land down under, and I want to understand them... I don't want to generalize, I want to understand.
I think Australia is upset over that anti-Islam video. They just didn't seem to think it was appropriate.
No a few idiotic religious types are upset over someone exercising the right of free speech.
Muslims are just going to have to learn to shut up and take it like the rest
What? Idiotic religious types?

Yes, everyone who is Muslim has the right to be upset at that video.

However, ONLY the EXTREMISTS were the ones rioting.

Are you honestly saying someone could make a movie about Chrisianity/Buddhism/Americans/New Zealanders/ANY FREAKING GROUP and portray them or what they believe negatively, and they don't have the right to be upset because of "HURRR HURR FREE SPEECH"?

Free Speech doesn't mean you can go around insulting anyone you fucking feel like, and it also doesn't mean you can get away with no consequences. Maybe not consequences from the government, but from society? Yeah, prepare to be ostracized the shit away from everyone.
Well free speech is hardly unlimited here in the us. You can be sued into bankruptcy for defaming someone if they can prove they lost a certain amount of money because of your words. Also incitement to violence and threats are not protected, and you can be thrown into prison for a very long time.
Lol I had to recheck your name to make sure you weren't the one I replied to cause that confused me.

It is nice to know that there are consequences for free speech. But the people who believe free speech should mean "Say whatever I want and get off scot free" confuse the shit out of me.

But what he said just rubbed me the wrong way. Muslims will have to shut up and take it like everyone else?

Christians will not stop until they have verbally beaten you into a bloody pulp if you even say a god damn word against God or Jesus. I have met many Christians like that. No one I have met is enough of a masochist to just take insults without saying anything, and to say that "EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT MUSLIMS DON'T RETALIATE" just showed me how little that person understood about the world.
 

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dumbseizure said:
DisgruntledOwl said:
pro_family_lover said:
Grenge Di Origin said:
Can anybody please tell me why the US embassy is being attacked, what factors are affecting and causing this?

I'm an American, and my heart is completely open to the grandeur of the peoples and cultures of the land down under, and I want to understand them... I don't want to generalize, I want to understand.
I think Australia is upset over that anti-Islam video. They just didn't seem to think it was appropriate.
No a few idiotic religious types are upset over someone exercising the right of free speech.
Muslims are just going to have to learn to shut up and take it like the rest
What? Idiotic religious types?

Yes, everyone who is Muslim has the right to be upset at that video.

However, ONLY the EXTREMISTS were the ones rioting.

Are you honestly saying someone could make a movie about Chrisianity/Buddhism/Americans/New Zealanders/ANY FREAKING GROUP and portray them or what they believe negatively, and they don't have the right to be upset because of "HURRR HURR FREE SPEECH"?

Free Speech doesn't mean you can go around insulting anyone you fucking feel like, and it also doesn't mean you can get away with no consequences. Maybe not consequences from the government, but from society? Yeah, prepare to be ostracized the shit away from everyone.
I said a few idiotic religious types. Not everybody in that religion.

And yeah, anybody has the right to be upset by a movie made about them. But what other religious group has so many extremists that is someone made a really shitty, obviously inflammatory movie about them that will not get wide release. It Would spark worldwide riots and protests?
 

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glchicks said:
dumbseizure said:
Lol I had to recheck your name to make sure you weren't the one I replied to cause that confused me.

It is nice to know that there are consequences for free speech. But the people who believe free speech should mean "Say whatever I want and get off scot free" confuse the shit out of me.

But what he said just rubbed me the wrong way. Muslims will have to shut up and take it like everyone else?

Christians will not stop until they have verbally beaten you into a bloody pulp if you even say a god damn word against God or Jesus. I have met many Christians like that. No one I have met is enough of a masochist to just take insults without saying anything, and to say that "EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT MUSLIMS DON'T RETALIATE" just showed me how little that person understood about the world.
The ones in power are always ridiculous, history has proven this time and again. Many many Christians like so very much to play the victim while gorging their fat over-priveleged faces on americas cup. Did you see that ad that the "Innocence of Mohammed" creator placed on new york buses? Went something along the lines of "When the civilized man clashes with the primitive barbarians, support the civilized man. Support Israel, Defeat Jihad". And they pretend to wonder why everyone cant stand their pompous manipulative asses.

In a country where church and state are supposed to be separated, we have this funny rule where you are not allowed to be president unless you are a christian. We live in and upside down world where white is black and the weak are powerful. Fuck the majority
As I live in Australia I haven't heard much about the the people or advertising behind the movie, asides from the producer, or director or someone affiliated with the movie is now arrested for breaking parole, and that they are all getting death threats. Although that ad really disgusts me. Who is it for anyone to decide who is civilized and who is a barbarian. I hate the people who take the high ground just because of another persons beliefs. I mean, I am not religious, but that doesn't mean I hate people who are, or think that I am superior, cause that is just stupid. It'd just be fanning the flames even further.

However I didn't know about the president required to be Christian. That seems.....well...honestly....really fucking weird for a, as you put it, country where church and state are meant to be separated. I mean, I don't know much about American Political history, but wasn't JFK the one who decided it was a good idea? And weren't people like "Yeah that is a good idea, JFK, your the man!". (obviously the wording was a bit different back in those times, maybe "You have had a brilliant idea, good sir".)
 

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DisgruntledOwl said:
dumbseizure said:
DisgruntledOwl said:
pro_family_lover said:
Grenge Di Origin said:
Can anybody please tell me why the US embassy is being attacked, what factors are affecting and causing this?

I'm an American, and my heart is completely open to the grandeur of the peoples and cultures of the land down under, and I want to understand them... I don't want to generalize, I want to understand.
I think Australia is upset over that anti-Islam video. They just didn't seem to think it was appropriate.
No a few idiotic religious types are upset over someone exercising the right of free speech.
Muslims are just going to have to learn to shut up and take it like the rest
What? Idiotic religious types?

Yes, everyone who is Muslim has the right to be upset at that video.

However, ONLY the EXTREMISTS were the ones rioting.

Are you honestly saying someone could make a movie about Chrisianity/Buddhism/Americans/New Zealanders/ANY FREAKING GROUP and portray them or what they believe negatively, and they don't have the right to be upset because of "HURRR HURR FREE SPEECH"?

Free Speech doesn't mean you can go around insulting anyone you fucking feel like, and it also doesn't mean you can get away with no consequences. Maybe not consequences from the government, but from society? Yeah, prepare to be ostracized the shit away from everyone.
I said a few idiotic religious types. Not everybody in that religion.

And yeah, anybody has the right to be upset by a movie made about them. But what other religious group has so many extremists that is someone made a really shitty, obviously inflammatory movie about them that will not get wide release. It Would spark worldwide riots and protests?
Are you really saying that if a movie was made about Christians, with the same negative attitude that this one had against Muslims, that there wouldn't be Christians rioting world wide?

Seeing as the according to reports, there are more Christians than Muslims worldwide, The chances of which there would be riots increase, as there is a higher population of people.

Edit: Also, A majority of the riots were where the Muslim community is a minority, are you saying Christians wouldn't riot in countries where they are the minority instead? There is no need for the to riot in countries where Christians are the majority, it'd be like shouting at themselves.