So uhhh... the Oscars sucked.
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Its nicknamed The Pixar Award because, generally, the movies they have nominated to best animated feature are heads and tails above the others.Macgyvercas said:
This was absolutely not the case this year. It hasn't been the case since Toy Story 3 either. Part of that was because their last movie was Cars 2, another part was because animated movies are a whole lot better in the quality department lately.
This year should have gone to pretty much any of the ones nominated other than Brave. They all were more ambitious in one way or another. In fact, the biggest praise that anyone ever bothered to give Brave was that it was just...average. It wasn't awful. It wasn't amazin, it was just there. A movie that just happens to be there should never win, especially when there are movies that deserve it far far more.
Recount the votes, i dont care how long it takes, Im not convinced they're right. it should have swept! XDMarter said:
but yeah, I thought they were alright. Im not really upset with any of the winners per se, though I could see another movie winning best animated (the top three were very strong with Brave, wreck it ralph, and paranorman). I will say that for all the crticism, if any film was going to win by hype, it would have been wreck it ralph, because its not as good as hyped. its a good movie, but its equally as good as brave and I htink it only got such hype because it was video game characters and thts cool cause videogames!
personally I htink paranorman was the best of the contenders, but again, all three were great movies and any justifiably deserved to win. glad argo won, was hoping between it or Lincoln. Bob was right to a degree, hathaway won best supporting despite not really doing much through the whole movie. thought helen hunt should have.
I agree with pi winning best music, dont agree with adelle winning best original song, but not im a fan of hers so that may be why. skyfall was a good song, but I thought Pi's Lullaby should have.
and thats about all.
I'm just annoyed at Braves win. It did not deserve it. Hell even Pixar seem to be scratching their heads uncomfortably at that win.
ParaNorman and Wreak-it-Ralph were the two worthy contenders and while I know those old codgers didn't look at anything more than who made the animated movies, it's rather irksome that Pixar doesn't get slapped on the wrist for making a half hearted movie. I love their work, but this was a biiig trip up by their usually stellar standards.
(Brave was a Frankenstein of a movie, the original screenplay was apparently rather different, but due to time constraints and meddling from the wrong people and a director walking of, that's what was presented... it's by no means bad, but Oscar worthy? Heh, no wonder no one takes these awards very seriously in animation.)
ParaNorman and Wreak-it-Ralph were the two worthy contenders and while I know those old codgers didn't look at anything more than who made the animated movies, it's rather irksome that Pixar doesn't get slapped on the wrist for making a half hearted movie. I love their work, but this was a biiig trip up by their usually stellar standards.
(Brave was a Frankenstein of a movie, the original screenplay was apparently rather different, but due to time constraints and meddling from the wrong people and a director walking of, that's what was presented... it's by no means bad, but Oscar worthy? Heh, no wonder no one takes these awards very seriously in animation.)
I'd love to see the reasons for why it won; it was mediocre at best. ParaNorman, Frankenweenie, and Wreck-it-Ralph were all leagues better than Brave.(The Pirates! Band of Misfits, not so much) Normally I agree that Pixar deserves the animation category, but this year they really didn't. I have to wonder if members of the academy only vote for them now because it's tradtion; I do remember it being said the animation oscar is referred to as "The Pixar award" because it always goes to them.Marter said:
Still, I'm glad to see Waltz won for Django; it was a damn good movie and Waltz's performance was amazing.
I haven't got much to say on the actual awards, (the only big nominee I've seen is Django Unchained), but aside from the visual effects guys getting screwed over, I enjoyed the show.
Though the media's coverage of Charlize Theron's "reaction" to MacFarlane's boob song had me shaking my head.
Though the media's coverage of Charlize Theron's "reaction" to MacFarlane's boob song had me shaking my head.
brave won? really, in a category where wreck it Ralph and paranorman? It was....well not bad but mediocre. it didn't stand ot and it wasn't all that memorable.
Cloud Atlas wasn't even nominated. stupid academy
the avengers didn't win anything. they could have nominated (nominated!! not given) Tom Hiddleston for best male side character for Loke [footnote]no. I am gonna spell like that, it's how the Scandinavian vikings did it so HA![/footnote] i mean he was really good and his scene were the high point of the Thor movie.
[small]I kinda sorta like the boob song though[/small]
Cloud Atlas wasn't even nominated. stupid academy
the avengers didn't win anything. they could have nominated (nominated!! not given) Tom Hiddleston for best male side character for Loke [footnote]no. I am gonna spell like that, it's how the Scandinavian vikings did it so HA![/footnote] i mean he was really good and his scene were the high point of the Thor movie.
[small]I kinda sorta like the boob song though[/small]
The Oscars seem to just kind of piss everyone off -- they're not low enough to give anything to box office favorites like The Avengers or The Hobbit, but they're not brave enough to please the high art, intellectual crowd either.
I think its more that its generally accepted that the Best Animated oscar came about because they didn't want Shrek winning the Best Movie oscar.Vault101 said:
Django Unchained won "Best Original Screenplay".
Now, I don't watch a lot of movies in general, and only saw maybe 4-5 movies in the cinema last year, but... seriously?
I literally watched Django Unchained for the first time last night, in the cinema, trying to get into the "Starship Troopers" mindset of enjoying a violent, cartoony action piece that takes itself too seriously despite the fact it's fundamentally retarded. I was bored out of my skull.
Maybe it's just that every other movie was an adaptation? "Best" screenplay? Compared to what, Birdemic?
Clichés, stock characters, other stock characters that don't go anywhere, and a blaxploitation revenge plot so formulaic and predictable I knew how each scene was going to end just by how it started (not to mention all the scenes that I knew how they would play out before they even came around).
Someone, please explain to me, what does "Best Original Screenplay" even mean? That the storyboards looked pretty? That the dialogue was good? Because if it has anything to do with the story told in the actual movie, I feel like they just threw a random, "less important" award at Django Unchained because it's "the movie about empowering black people" and they didn't want to "seem racist".
Now, I don't watch a lot of movies in general, and only saw maybe 4-5 movies in the cinema last year, but... seriously?
I literally watched Django Unchained for the first time last night, in the cinema, trying to get into the "Starship Troopers" mindset of enjoying a violent, cartoony action piece that takes itself too seriously despite the fact it's fundamentally retarded. I was bored out of my skull.
Maybe it's just that every other movie was an adaptation? "Best" screenplay? Compared to what, Birdemic?
Clichés, stock characters, other stock characters that don't go anywhere, and a blaxploitation revenge plot so formulaic and predictable I knew how each scene was going to end just by how it started (not to mention all the scenes that I knew how they would play out before they even came around).
Someone, please explain to me, what does "Best Original Screenplay" even mean? That the storyboards looked pretty? That the dialogue was good? Because if it has anything to do with the story told in the actual movie, I feel like they just threw a random, "less important" award at Django Unchained because it's "the movie about empowering black people" and they didn't want to "seem racist".
Just throwing it out there, but wasn't there quite a bit of hubbub when Brave came out, about Merida being a strong female protagonist and Disney/Pixar challenging accepted norms in kids' movies? I assume most voters didn't watch any of the nominees, so they might have gone with the one that apparently generated the most buzz with a little bit of gender politics thrown in?
I can't say if it's deserving or not - I've only seen Wreck-It Ralph out of the five - but there seems to be quite a few people upset about that and I'm wondering about a possible answer.
I can't say if it's deserving or not - I've only seen Wreck-It Ralph out of the five - but there seems to be quite a few people upset about that and I'm wondering about a possible answer.
