I care because I care about the game industry. It annoys me when I see someone do something that harms it. It's like being an environmentalist and then seeing a bunch of jerks throw litter all over the place because they're too lazy to throw it in the trash can that's two feet away.
So what if I pirate games, why should you care?
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I thought it would be kind of obvious I ment the illegal drugs when I said drugs are illegal.rokkolpo said:Drugs are very much legal.THE_NAMSU said:it's like when people take drugs.
And drugs are illegal.
Never had alcohol or a cigarette?
Those are legal and drugs.
+many kinds of drugs are good for you, if you use them with restraint.
Especially Marijuana.(which is legal in The Netherlands, where I live)
And no I never have (or ever will) have alcohol or a cigarette, and no, none of these recreational drugs are good for you.
Just look at all the deaths by cigarette smoking and all the problems (as well as deaths) by alcohol.
Cannabis may be legal in the Netherlands, but it is not in most other countries in Europe and America.
Now let's not go on with this argument in this place.
I laugh how the only people defending piracy are the pirates themselves. And if you call them out for defending blatant theft, they say they don't pirate themselves. Yeah right, why else would you defend illegal activities? This isn't abortion, one side is illegal.
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Well thats just wrong. Im sad because it tells devlopers a clear message that "We want you to work hard to please us so we can steal your work, rant on the internet that its shit and demand you as an artist sink 100's more hours of your life into doing it again". I know CEO's can be bastards and companies can have bad names but what about the artists? The coders? The voice actors. You DEMAND they please your entertainment needs and spit in their faces, critique them and then DEMAND more entertainment, for no reason other than the fact you you believe these craven filthy artists to be little more than your slaves. They should be glad to toil for your pleasure and expect nothing in return. Who are other people except disgusting packages and producers of entertainment anyway? Its entitled.Radeonx said:
Creativity treated in such a way cannot flourish. Genius can not exist in a system where brilliance is rewarded only with theft. It stamps on the industry. It encourages artists to not bother. Why give a fuck? Why try? Why not draw real paintings instead where if someone runs up and grabs it, a policeman will help you.
I think people who use the "It ok to pirate this game because I wasn't going to buy it anyway so they've not lost a sale" crowd are douchebags. You know what most people do if they wouldn't buy a game? They don't get it. If you care about it enough to play it you can bloody well fork out for it.
My friend, who I am convinced has never actually bought a game in his life, was complaining the other day about how Gears of War and Fable came out extended on the PC but the sequels were console exclusive. The fact that the GoW and Fable he played were both torrented pretty much said everything I ever wanted to.
My friend, who I am convinced has never actually bought a game in his life, was complaining the other day about how Gears of War and Fable came out extended on the PC but the sequels were console exclusive. The fact that the GoW and Fable he played were both torrented pretty much said everything I ever wanted to.
Do you have some links for that? I'm interested because in Japan, they hold a massive yearly convention of copycat manga artists that are outright selling infringing material, and it's overlooked by the publishing industry as being good for exposure, and thusly sales. It also supports aspiring artists with Clamp being the most famous example.Thomas Guy said:
I was hoping the same would happen with online scans and videos - that the popularity boost would cause an increase in legitimate sales beyond any theoretical losses in sales from piracy. So if there's any information to the contrary, I'd appreciate the references.
By way of example, I just finished watching a show that's available on Netflix and for sale in the US on an independent site (they have the subtitled version, and I'll watch that at lower quality over dubbed any day). Right now two different DVD versions of that show are sitting in my Amazon shopping cart, and when I decide which one I want, I'll delete the other and hit the checkout button.
By way of another example, I won't be buying TWO other shows that I want, because I can't. The company with the US license agreements has apparently not been successful at licensing, which is odd because both of those shows have been in the top 20 of watched / online scan popularity, and one is almost in the top 10 on both counts.
Because developers who originally developed for pcs will start to develop for consoles and forsake their pc roots. I'm looking at you Crytek.
Forget about whether it actually effects the game industry or not, piracy is stealing. Stealing is wrong. Someone else has worked to produce that game and you are taking it for free. Stealing is morally wrong, but if that isn't enough of a reason not to, then remember, stealing is illegal in every country I know about, so don't do it.
Actually, it's generally considered a compliment when manga artists have their characters appear in Doujin. They usually only get upset over it when the character gets derailed in doing so. (I remember a thing with Bayonetta and her being submissive in one doujin, which pissed Hideki (I think) off.)w00tage said:
There's a clear disconnect between allowing something to occur, and putting measures in to prevent something only to have it happen anyway.
I like to put myself in other peoples shoes or their perspective. If I were in the gaming industry...it would bother me that people around the world are indirectly stealing from me and costing me profits.
Piracy is akin to leeching off of society, you are not contributing to help society run. In addition..the time and money developer spend on things like DRM could be better spent on the actual game itself.
Piracy is akin to leeching off of society, you are not contributing to help society run. In addition..the time and money developer spend on things like DRM could be better spent on the actual game itself.
I think one thing the OP is kinda forgetting is that piracy just seems for prevalent on the PC as you have more hard data and closer to the actual numbers. This is because PC pirates are not lazy(no offence to proper console gamers). PC pirates actually go out of their way(relatively speaking) to find a decent virus free torrent and crack. Console pirates get some guy/gal in a back alley to install a chip and then buy games off him/her. This means that for 1 console download it could spawn anywhere between 1-500+ spin off pirate copies that actually make money. At least most PC pirates(that I know) don't actually give money to anyone. I don't really know if that is better but anyway.
OT: Anyway it is pretty simple if you weren't going to buy it no matter how popular it is don't pirate it. If you don't have the money don't pirate it. Also if you don't have the money how the fuck did you get a PC/Console and TV in the first place? No matter what excuse you use for pirating unless you actually intend to buy the game(and even then) still makes it wrong.
OT: Anyway it is pretty simple if you weren't going to buy it no matter how popular it is don't pirate it. If you don't have the money don't pirate it. Also if you don't have the money how the fuck did you get a PC/Console and TV in the first place? No matter what excuse you use for pirating unless you actually intend to buy the game(and even then) still makes it wrong.
To me it's the same as taking something from a shop. You can use all the same arguments people use for piracy ("I wouldn't have brought it anyway", "It was too expensive") but most people who said it was okay to pirate wouldn't say it was okay to shoplift, would they?. Stores actually increase the prices of products in order to compensate for theft and loss so that's what will see with games. If more people pirate games, less people will pay for them, and the price of games will increase to meet sales targets. So if you think it doesn't affect anyone if you pirate a game, think again.
I'm usually almost always against pirating Games. Most of the time it's because they are too lazy to work for enough money to get the game.
What's the opinion on pirating a game that has been banned in your country.
I live in Australia and one of my friends have pirated Mortal Kombat. they were rather shocked to find I was not opposed to this. I feel if it's almost impossible to acquire (you can actually receive a fine for importing that game here from another country -_-") I am willing to make exceptions.
What's the opinion on pirating a game that has been banned in your country.
I live in Australia and one of my friends have pirated Mortal Kombat. they were rather shocked to find I was not opposed to this. I feel if it's almost impossible to acquire (you can actually receive a fine for importing that game here from another country -_-") I am willing to make exceptions.
Yeah, I've never understood the argument "I would have never payed for it anyway". If you're willing to break the law in order to get something, clearly would would've done anything to get it.Glademaster said:
It is for some people. Like me. Not that I'd ever pirate a game. Except I do. Just kidding. I really do. Nahh, but I could.Daystar Clarion said:
Also, digital copyright laws in my country are very sketchy when it comes to online piracy. Technically, it's not really a crime over here. So... yay?
