If you would take the time to look at even just the first page of this topic you'll read comments from people saying they are DELIBERATELY choosing a violent game to play to spite this "ceasefire."ResonanceSD said:Caffeine_Bombed said:I won't be participating. But you know what I also won't be doing? Deliberately playing an ultra-violent game to "spite this".
How pathetic and childish. Downright disrespectful to be honest.
Just finished a long session of Borderlands 2. Who's it being disrespectful to? The guy who decided that Ceasefire friday would be a Thing? Sure, I'm fine with that.
Wrong middle finger. It's a middle finger to the idea that violent videogames have anything to do with real life violence, not to the victims of any real life shooting. I have to say, it's a middle finger I'm sorely tempted to raise myself.Caffeine_Bombed said:If you would take the time to look at even just the first page of this topic you'll read comments from people saying they are DELIBERATELY choosing a violent game to play to spite this "ceasefire."ResonanceSD said:Caffeine_Bombed said:I won't be participating. But you know what I also won't be doing? Deliberately playing an ultra-violent game to "spite this".
How pathetic and childish. Downright disrespectful to be honest.
Just finished a long session of Borderlands 2. Who's it being disrespectful to? The guy who decided that Ceasefire friday would be a Thing? Sure, I'm fine with that.
I'm not saying people should take this guy's side and lay down their gamepads for a day - I'm saying I think it's a disgusting attitude to basically give a middle finger to someone who wants a day of respect for the lives lost in this horrific incident, regardless of their views on violence in video games.
I myself am likely to be playing Hitman as I'm going to be buying it on Thursday and that's IF I get the chance. But like Hell am I going to go out of my way to play something just to rub it in someone's face. If nothing else it's just showing the gaming community is full of assholes and will do NO favours for the argument that violence in video games is not a problem.
I never said a middle finger to the victims, I meant it's a middle finger to someone paying respects TO the victims (even if the day is to also voice an opinion on the argument).Owyn_Merrilin said:Wrong middle finger. It's a middle finger to the idea that violent videogames have anything to do with real life violence, not to the victims of any real life shooting. I have to say, it's a middle finger I'm sorely tempted to raise myself.Caffeine_Bombed said:If you would take the time to look at even just the first page of this topic you'll read comments from people saying they are DELIBERATELY choosing a violent game to play to spite this "ceasefire."ResonanceSD said:Caffeine_Bombed said:I won't be participating. But you know what I also won't be doing? Deliberately playing an ultra-violent game to "spite this".
How pathetic and childish. Downright disrespectful to be honest.
Just finished a long session of Borderlands 2. Who's it being disrespectful to? The guy who decided that Ceasefire friday would be a Thing? Sure, I'm fine with that.
I'm not saying people should take this guy's side and lay down their gamepads for a day - I'm saying I think it's a disgusting attitude to basically give a middle finger to someone who wants a day of respect for the lives lost in this horrific incident, regardless of their views on violence in video games.
I myself am likely to be playing Hitman as I'm going to be buying it on Thursday and that's IF I get the chance. But like Hell am I going to go out of my way to play something just to rub it in someone's face. If nothing else it's just showing the gaming community is full of assholes and will do NO favours for the argument that violence in video games is not a problem.
Okay, I see what you're saying now. I still think it's a well deserved middle finger, though. This "ceasefire" is effectively sending the message that violent videogames are a problem and a contributor to real world violence, and that's very much a bad message. It's being spread with the best intentions possible, but it's still a bad message. I mean, extreme example, but the Westboro Baptist Church has great intentions behind their protests -- they want everyone to repent so they can go to heaven. But that doesn't stop them from being both crazy and absurdly offensive.Caffeine_Bombed said:I never said a middle finger to the victims, I meant it's a middle finger to someone paying respects TO the victims (even if the day is to also voice an opinion on the argument).Owyn_Merrilin said:Wrong middle finger. It's a middle finger to the idea that violent videogames have anything to do with real life violence, not to the victims of any real life shooting. I have to say, it's a middle finger I'm sorely tempted to raise myself.Caffeine_Bombed said:If you would take the time to look at even just the first page of this topic you'll read comments from people saying they are DELIBERATELY choosing a violent game to play to spite this "ceasefire."ResonanceSD said:Caffeine_Bombed said:I won't be participating. But you know what I also won't be doing? Deliberately playing an ultra-violent game to "spite this".
How pathetic and childish. Downright disrespectful to be honest.
Just finished a long session of Borderlands 2. Who's it being disrespectful to? The guy who decided that Ceasefire friday would be a Thing? Sure, I'm fine with that.
I'm not saying people should take this guy's side and lay down their gamepads for a day - I'm saying I think it's a disgusting attitude to basically give a middle finger to someone who wants a day of respect for the lives lost in this horrific incident, regardless of their views on violence in video games.
I myself am likely to be playing Hitman as I'm going to be buying it on Thursday and that's IF I get the chance. But like Hell am I going to go out of my way to play something just to rub it in someone's face. If nothing else it's just showing the gaming community is full of assholes and will do NO favours for the argument that violence in video games is not a problem.
I just think that if people want to argue FOR violence in video games there are more 'grown-up' ways to do it instead of acting like a teenager rebelling against their parents.
To reiterate: I am NOT participating in the ceasefire. I am FOR violent video games. I just have my own personal views as to how both sides could deal with this most recent clash. Two sides of the same coin and all that. Peace.
I'd say the moment where he asks for a ceasefire. I just watched it, and yeah, he keeps going on about how it's not about blaming games, but then why on earth does he single out gaming? He says it's to show gamers give a damn. Personally I think that would be done better, and with far fewer unfortunate implications, if we all did what he suggested immediately before mentioning the ceasefire and, you know, donated to the families of the victims. This is clicktivism at it's absolute worst. Not only is it an empty gesture, but it's one that moves the public face of a historically persecuted group backwards, at a time when they've almost completely gotten past the time of persecution. Now I'm not the type to talk about "advancing the medium," but I find this distasteful because of the implication. Now if he were saying "avoid violent media, period for one day" (so no war movies, no shooters, no rap or metal with violent lyrics, etc. etc.) it would still be an empty and mildly offensive gesture (it still implies that the media we consume has something to do with this, and not, say, mental illness and the availability of guns), but at least it wouldn't be singling out videogames as somehowMeaning of Karma said:Owyn_Merrilin said:Okay, I see what you're saying now. I still think it's a well deserved middle finger, though. This "ceasefire" is effectively sending the message that violent videogames are a problem and a contributor to real world violence, and that's very much a bad message. It's being spread with the best intentions possible, but it's still a bad message. I mean, extreme example, but the Westboro Baptist Church has great intentions behind their protests -- they want everyone to repent so they can go to heaven. But that doesn't stop them from being both crazy and absurdly offensive.Caffeine_Bombed said:I never said a middle finger to the victims, I meant it's a middle finger to someone paying respects TO the victims (even if the day is to also voice an opinion on the argument).Owyn_Merrilin said:Wrong middle finger. It's a middle finger to the idea that violent videogames have anything to do with real life violence, not to the victims of any real life shooting. I have to say, it's a middle finger I'm sorely tempted to raise myself.Caffeine_Bombed said:If you would take the time to look at even just the first page of this topic you'll read comments from people saying they are DELIBERATELY choosing a violent game to play to spite this "ceasefire."ResonanceSD said:Caffeine_Bombed said:I won't be participating. But you know what I also won't be doing? Deliberately playing an ultra-violent game to "spite this".
How pathetic and childish. Downright disrespectful to be honest.
Just finished a long session of Borderlands 2. Who's it being disrespectful to? The guy who decided that Ceasefire friday would be a Thing? Sure, I'm fine with that.
I'm not saying people should take this guy's side and lay down their gamepads for a day - I'm saying I think it's a disgusting attitude to basically give a middle finger to someone who wants a day of respect for the lives lost in this horrific incident, regardless of their views on violence in video games.
I myself am likely to be playing Hitman as I'm going to be buying it on Thursday and that's IF I get the chance. But like Hell am I going to go out of my way to play something just to rub it in someone's face. If nothing else it's just showing the gaming community is full of assholes and will do NO favours for the argument that violence in video games is not a problem.
I just think that if people want to argue FOR violence in video games there are more 'grown-up' ways to do it instead of acting like a teenager rebelling against their parents.
To reiterate: I am NOT participating in the ceasefire. I am FOR violent video games. I just have my own personal views as to how both sides could deal with this most recent clash. Two sides of the same coin and all that. Peace.
Can you point me to the exact moment in this video where video games are blamed?