So you like a girl...

[GigaHz]

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Over text? There are people who do that?

That is all kinds of sad.

 

[BreakfastMan]

Do... Nothing! Hurrah! Worked splendidly for me every single time I have tried it. Sure, I never went out with them, but they never broke my heart either, so I count that as a win for me.

[sub]I am so alone. *sob*[/sub]

 

[manic_depressive13]

What was pretty funny? Were you under the impression that I was joking? I assure you, I am being completely serious.

And no, I am not familiar with RAK the Undead.

No, I realise you were being serious. I was amused at your audacity in posting a comment that was certain to attract negative attention. As I'm sure you've noticed, our society promotes the notion that the pursuit of a relationship is one of life's priorities, so people holding your opinions are often mocked. It pleases me that there are people like you willing to subvert the established norms.

RAK is just a (in)famous user around here that has a very similar attitude to yours regarding the wiminz.

 

[KingGolem]

No, I realise you were being serious. I was amused at your audacity in posting a comment that was certain to attract negative attention. As I'm sure you've noticed, our society promotes the notion that the pursuit of a relationship is one of life's priorities, so people holding your opinions are often mocked. It pleases me that there are people like you willing to subvert the established norms.

RAK is just a (in)famous user around here that has a very similar attitude to yours regarding the wiminz.

Being respected for being different? There's another first. Thank you.

 

[BoredRolePlayer]

face to face, i want to see her struggle to come up with a reason to reject me

 

[Slayer_2]

Ask her face to face. I usually just spit it out, partially because I don't like to BS around, partially because I get nervous. My usual line is "I really like you, want to go on a date sometime?".

 

[Gmans uncle]

Better question:
How do you ask another guy out when you're not 100% certain he's gay?
Going through that problem right now as a matter of fact...

 

[Slayer_2]

Well, you might as well keep that up for as long as you can. Because if you change your mind all you will ever be is some lonely old man trying to get some, having missed out on the chance of being a young, attractive, virile man trying to enjoy one of the better things that life has to offer.

That's exactly what I'm sick and tired of: everybody assuming that they know me better than I know myself.

I have taken a vow of unchastity, guided by 2 philosophies. There is no such thing as right or wrong as long as no one gets hurt and to truely succeed in life is to experience it from all possible perspectives. Neither one are achievable in a practical sense, at least not very likely, but the priciple is to open yourself up to enjoy as many new experiences as possible while trying not to cause any undue suffering to those around you. As long as you are enjoying things and not being selfish, a prick, or downright cruel, I dont see the need to limit yourself from enjoying what life has to offer.

Out of curiousity, do you think you are going to get any extra credit in this life or the next for your choice? Because at 20 you do still have a chance to change your mind and really enjoy things. Some women are actually turned on by (young) virgins.

"Vow of unchastity." Heh, that's a new one. I'm afraid you are incorrect in your assumption that my vow of chastity is based in morality or religion. I am an atheist, and believe that it is a weakness of character to make decisions based on anything but logic. There are tremendous risks associated with procreation, chief among them one's choice of partner. I cannot expect to find a woman who agrees with me completely or submits wholly to my will, and as such any relationship will entail compromise. I absolutely refuse to compromise my own nature. Without a relationship, I am free to be myself.

Another problem that prevents me from pursuing a relationship is that I refuse to serve anything other than my own self interests. I have heard it said that being in a relationship requires the ability to put others ahead of yourself, and I believe that to do so is folly. I am the most important person to myself, and I intend to keep it that way.

There is also the problem of starting a family, which is the logical conclusion of a successful relationship. I don't intend to do that either. As a woman cannot be controlled, in all likelihood she will abandon me and use the repulsive system of divorce to take half of everything I own. I can excercise a greater degree of control over my children, but there is still a chance that they may grow up to betray me, and be disgraces to my name. Keeping the children under control would be even harder when having to compromise my ideas of child raising with a woman.

With all these dangers compounded together, I see relationships as an unacceptably risky venture. I will never have sex, either. Sex carries plenty of risks on its own (STD's, accidental pregnancy, and so forth), and the legal variety is usually acquired through a relationship. I am capable of relieving my sexual tensions without the aid of another person, so I see no need for intercourse. On the whole, relationships and sexual intercourse are a completely unecessary evil, hence my vow of chastity.

This guys is amazing. Honestly, the fact that he comes across dead serious takes the cake.

 

[KingGolem]

Allow me to poke holes in your "logic". You claim you base you decisions on logic, yet you illogically claim to know the future. This is an impossibility with the current level of technology available to mankind. The divorce rate is 50%. Not the best odds, but points to the fact that people are indeed capable of forming lasting relationships the MAJORITY of the time (or close to it). Besides, you can have sex without getting married, having kids, or getting an STD. People do it all the time, litterally. If you were motivated by pure logic then you would have made a risk assesment analysis to rate the risk of having sex vs say- getting in a car and driving to the store.

Do not forget the other reasons I do not want to marry. Of the 50% of marriages that do not end in divorce, how many of them require compromising oneself to suit your partner? I am not at all interested in compromise. Further, I see no value in intercourse when I am able to relieve my sexual tensions alone, much faster, more reliably, and without the risks and sacrifices of a relationship.

Your decisions seem to be based on fear and the egotistical need to feel superior to others. Neither of which are logical in nature. It has been proven mathmatically that individuals cooperating to collect limited resources aquire a higher level of said resources than those opperating alone or even by trying to steal/cheat resources from others. Logically, you should be able to see that you are an insignificant speck in the universe. Making yourself the most important thing in the universe does nothing to change that. We as a species have advanced to where we are COLLECTIVELY. Think about your life today compared to some guy running scared through the wild bush in naught but a loin cloth holding naught but a sharpened stick to appreciate how far we've come in this manner.

Ah, the old "we all have to work together" nonsense. I've heard this number before. Do not forget that in a relationship, the capital secured, increased though it may be, must be divided between myself and my partner, or worse, between myself, my partner, and my children. I do not see any guarantee at all of being better off. I do not think society is a fitting analogy, either. Certainly, society is a body of millions of individuals working together, but that work is done to indirectly benefit each other, and participation in it does not require liking it or living with it. Once I get home from my job, I don't have to have any more contact with society until it's time to work again. Not so with a partner. They require an investment of time and energy, and if the relationship has advanced to the point where we share a living space, I cannot escape them at my leisure, either. That's not how I want to live my life.

You admit to having an "animalistic" part of your brain. Is it logical to deny an inherent part of your being? It might be MORE logical to admit that you arent/can never be a purely logical being and allow yourself to enjoy/indulge in things that are illogical. Even if you dont want to have kids I hope you can understand that it is very logical that we have the biological drive to reproduce, and that it was the logical/rational parts of our brains that allowed us to figure out how to enjoy sex without producing children with every copulation.

The animalistic part of my brain tells me to do things that I do not want to do. I do not consider intercourse or relationships to be worthy of the investment. Do not forget that natural selection favors those behaviors that are best for the species, and not necessarily the individual. I put myself above everything else, and I see anything that tells me otherwise to be illogical, considering that I am the most important person to myself.

 

[KingGolem]

This guys is amazing. Honestly, the fact that he comes across dead serious takes the cake.

Pardon me, but did you mean that out of awe or incredulity?

 

[Riobux]

I don't utter a word, I wait for them to show interest in me. Less embarrassing that way.

 

[Gmans uncle]

Better question:
How do you ask another guy out when you're not 100% certain he's gay?
Going through that problem right now as a matter of fact...

How homophobic is he? If not, then you could just ask him and he'd be flattered. There is still the risk/fear of rejection, but as has been pointed out and should be obvious. There is no reward for not facing that risk.

He's defiantly not homophobic, he's in the same gay rights group I'm in, I've just never asked him directly about his sexual orientation. I think I'll take that advise though, thanks.

 

[Composer]

get to know them first
getting into a blind relationship is hella hard
save yourself some awkward moments


(especially if you dont know they're allergic to peanuts, save yourself from that terribly awkward monent...=C)

 

[KingGolem]

I think I would be more comfortable if you could just admit to being selfish and egotistical rather than unfairly (and conveniently) blaming logic for your lack of growth as a person.

For me this is becoming more of an occasion to defend the virtues of logic than to help you enjoy what life has to offer. I still dont know how much more involved I want to get into it, however.

Fine. I'll admit that I am indeed a selfish and egotistical man. It still doesn't change a thing. I stand by the logic of my initial assessment, and all you can do is disagree.

 

[NeonOranges]

Face to face is the best way to go with things for me, but that's because I'm about as subtle as a moose on the railroad tracks. Normally I just start chatting with someone and ask if they're free for lunch, if lunch goes well, I ask if they'd like to meet up again.

 

[Guardian of Nekops]

Written words work pretty well if you can't get your mouth working and know your way around a pen, but for heaven's sake put them on paper. Write carefully and neatly, fold it properly, put it in an envelope, and hand it to her in person. That way you can be sure to get everything you want to say down, without worrying about going all bashful on her halfway through.

Not that she won't know what's going on when you hand over the envelope, but if you're stuck looking at your shoes after that it's sort of okay, because it's all written down.