Someone please stop Tim Burton.

[HowToCatchAFirefly]

sorry not to agree with most of you, passive-aggressive annoyance that I am, but I really have enjoyed Burton's films. they're dark, whimsical, and unusually designed, and definitely stand out as unusual when it seems that alot of other movies have become interchangeable. the visual appeal and acting of Alice in Wonderland was enough for me to overlook the sadly overdone "final battle sequence", and Sweeney Todd was good when you overlooked the missing choral bits. Yeah, Tim Burton and Depp do seem to skip hand-in-hand a little much, but Burton's creative direction and Depp's style work together so well that I enjoy it enough to not mind.
I just hope that he releases something completely his own soon, since he's done the best work when all the fans aren't crying over the desecration of their favorite material.

 

[Kelethor]

But...but...but....I liked Nightmare before Christmas...I thought it was good. There are a lot of worse movie directors out there, but there still allowed to make movies! why stop a guy who's just been having a bad Streak!

 

[Marble Dragon]

This wasn't Alice in wonderland.

This was Through the looking Glass if you read the book. And it was more dark than the happy stoner disney story. But even that was a shroo trip by the writer. Sorry man, that was a pretty good movie, but Through the looking glass is a bit to long.

From what I've seen in the trailers, it was both. It's got Cheshire Cat, doesn't it? That's from Wonderland. But the White Queen is from Through the Looking Glass. That's one thing I hate about anything containing Alice, besides the actual books: they always combine two books with different plots and make them one movie.

What people don't seem to get about Alice in Wonderland is that it is dark and edgy. It's already very creepy if you're reading it the right way, without being terrifying to kids who just want a cute little book with tea parties in it. That, to me, is the brilliance of the series. All of the "dark and edgy" adaptions of it do nothing but ruin the balance. Lewis Carroll made it subtle. Remind me again why you would ruin that. Is it just to show the world that Alice in Wonderland was creepy to you? Well, it was creepy to most people. That's the point. Now shut up.

On topic, I've enjoyed Tim Burton's films, and so have many others. They shouldn't be stopped. But he ought to do something original. Honestly, there are some things that just don't deserve to be made more gritty and dark. Alice in Wonderland was one, and the Wizard of Oz is another. Just...no.

 

[Tartarga]

I think the main problem with Alice and Wonderland was that it was a disney movie. They probably wouldn't let him do all that he wanted with the movie, I don't know I haven't seen it. It seems like with Tim Burton you just have to wait and see what he comes up with.

 

[Carlston]

This wasn't Alice in wonderland.

This was Through the looking Glass if you read the book. And it was more dark than the happy
What people don't seem to get about Alice in Wonderland is that it is dark and edgy. It's already very creepy if you're reading it the right way, without being terrifying to kids who just want a cute little book with tea parties in it. That, to me, is the brilliance of the series. All of the "dark and edgy" adaptions of it do nothing but ruin the balance. Lewis Carroll made it subtle. Remind me again why you would ruin that. Is it just to show the world that Alice in Wonderland was creepy to you? Well, it was creepy to most people. That's the point. Now shut up.

On topic, I've enjoyed Tim Burton's films, and so have many others. They shouldn't be stopped. But he ought to do something original. Honestly, there are some things that just don't deserve to be made more gritty and dark. Alice in Wonderland was one, and the Wizard of Oz is another. Just...no.

If you told me to shut up, suck wang buddy. I like the creepy atmostsphere of Burton movies. If not, disreguard. (note humor)

Thing is, it is not a Bad movie. And making Happily ever after stories dark in continuance just happens...

But not only was it written, Ok'd by Disney then they got Burton, well what end result did you expect. Most all his movies looks like Nightmare before Christmas.../edit (which to me isn't bad)

Now if you seen America McGee Oz...and wicked...you can easily make that world evil and dark.

Hope Burton keeps making movies...just not stories touched on. As Planet of the Apes and even Sleepy hollow go into my least fav bin. Yet again I loved Ed Wood...

But why stop a man whos good at what he does?

 

[Random Argument Man]

I liked it when he does something original like Edward Scissorhands, Big Fish and Nightmare before Christmas.

Let's just say that remakes aren't a good thing with him.

 

[AwesomeExpress]

I don't really see how Tim Burton remaking a movie affects anyone in any way. If you hate Tim Burton, why did you go and see one of his movies? Just to re-affirm how much you hate Tim Burton? I didn't see nor do I plan to see Alice in Wonderland.

Yeah, I agree. It's not like you'd wear a style of clothing that you don't like, just to say "I don't like this clothing and here's why" you just get the clothing that suits you.

 

[YawehG]

I actually loved Alice. I thought Helena Bonham Carter was hilarious as the Red Queen, and I found the new hatter delightful. I wasn't at all impressed with Alice's performance, and Ann Hathaway as the White Queen was grating, but overall I loved the film. It was visually engaging, mildly immersive and generally just a fun film. Not a testament to the power of cinema or anything, just a good time at the theater.
It certainly didn't "ruin" Alice for me or decrease my enjoyment of the books or previous adaptations. It was even mostly spiral free.

 

[Daedalus1942]

So I went to see 'Alice in Wonderland', directed by Tim Burton, a couple of weeks ago with low expectations and it was pretty awful. It did make alot of monies though so now he's being considered for a remake of 'The Wizard of Oz'. He just makes everything spirally and "dark". Now I'm quite biased as I haven't really liked one of his films since 'Sleepy Hollow' but I don't want him to piss all over 'The Wizard of Oz' too.
Do people agree or am I missing something?

I'm indifferent to the whole thing, but I'm really tired of that horrible actress who's fucking him (you all know who I'm talking about) getting acting roles in all his films. She ruined Sweeney Todd, and she just can't act, God I hate her so much!

 

[ninjajoeman]

but i like Tim Burton...well i did not see that movie though.

 

[Marble Dragon]

This wasn't Alice in wonderland.

This was Through the looking Glass if you read the book. And it was more dark than the happy
What people don't seem to get about Alice in Wonderland is that it is dark and edgy. It's already very creepy if you're reading it the right way, without being terrifying to kids who just want a cute little book with tea parties in it. That, to me, is the brilliance of the series. All of the "dark and edgy" adaptions of it do nothing but ruin the balance. Lewis Carroll made it subtle. Remind me again why you would ruin that. Is it just to show the world that Alice in Wonderland was creepy to you? Well, it was creepy to most people. That's the point. Now shut up.

On topic, I've enjoyed Tim Burton's films, and so have many others. They shouldn't be stopped. But he ought to do something original. Honestly, there are some things that just don't deserve to be made more gritty and dark. Alice in Wonderland was one, and the Wizard of Oz is another. Just...no.

If you told me to shut up, suck wang buddy. I like the creepy atmostsphere of Burton movies. If not, disreguard. (note humor)

No thanks. I guess I didn't make my post very clear...I was specifically referring to the people who go "Woah! This Alice in Wonderland thing is really kind of dark and creepy! I never noticed that before. I'm going to help everybody else realize that by expanding on the book by making a [insert thing here] with something like this in it:"

Spoiler

On a side note, I've never played American Mcgee's Alice, although I do intend to someday. And yes, there is a justification in the plot for making Wonderland dark and creepy. I know. But this is the best example I could think of for an Alice character that was almost caricatured in its creepiness. (The above picture scared the hell out of me the first time I saw it. No joke.)

 

[quiet_samurai]

Original Batman
Planet of the Apes
Sleepy Hollow
Mars Attacks

Those are the only movies of his I like, the rest are all subpar and I think he is over rated as a movie maker. And I don't like him personally as well.

 

[Carlston]

This wasn't Alice in wonderland.

[/spoiler]On a side note, I've never played American Mcgee's Alice, although I do intend to someday. And yes, there is a justification in the plot for making Wonderland dark and creepy. I know. But this is the best example I could think of for an Alice character that was almost caricatured in its creepiness. (The above picture scared the hell out of me the first time I saw it. No joke.)

Why I made the note humor bit.

Play it, it's great. Might need to Quake 2-3 cheat code to get anywhere in it. It's insainly hard at times. And the story is just to creepy you want it to go on.
Watch the intro movie. Alice in a Madhouse, and Wonderland follows her mind trapped in itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o-19MnWlUc

Why is a Raven like a writing desk?
Simple...

Poetry has been written...on both.

 

[Blindrooster]

Are you guys kidding me? have yall read ther book? It's not supposed to be cartoony like Disney originally made it out to be. This is a much more accurate adaptation (although it left a bit out, the whole chapter with the lobster dance thank god) of what Wonderland was supposed to be percieved as. dont read into it too much, yall know the writers were literally high on acid when they wrote Alice right?
however i do agree that 3D is retarted. i think my eyes havn't gotten the latest update, i'm 3d retarted. nothing jumps out at me. it pisses my gf off when i keep asking to trade glasses. The movie would have been just as entertaining 2D

 

[SimuLord]

M. Night Shyamalamadingdong must hold some kind of record for most different ways to misspell someone's last name.

 

[The_Blue_Rider]

Tim Burton shouldnt stop making movies, he has made number of good films, sweeney todd was awesome

 

[Surllio]

I think it needs to be pointed out that Tim Burton only formed the original story and produced The Nightmare Before Christmas. It was directed by Henry Selick, who deserves a lot more credit for its look than Burton does.

Alice in Wonderland was alright. It wasn't great. And its NOT Through the Looking Glass. I don't ever remember the Mad Hatter having that large of a part in the book. This was Burton doing his thing, which is let his wife (Helen Bothem Carter) and Johnny Depp run the show. Depp got way too close to his Willy Wonka character for my taste, including that annoying laugh and mildly soft spoken nature.

My problem with Burton is that he seems to have quit trying. I loved his older works: PeeWee's Big Adventure, Mars Attacks!, Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, and Batman. I don't think he is a bad director so much as he has just stopped carrying and does the same visual thing with a new plot. From a director's standpoint, its boring. He hasn't moved past that point.

 

[kotorfan04]

First of all anyone who has directed or been heavily involved with Nightmare before Christmas, Sweeney Todd, Batman, Edward Schissorhands, and oh yeah Ed MOTHERFUCKING Wood, does not need to have their directorial equipment taken away, sure they might direct some bad things now, or at least not as good as their legacy, but... maybe I am just being an optimist here, but maybe their next project will be all worthwhile. As long as their next project isn't Wizard of Oz, that shit doesn't need to be remade.

 

[DragonChi]

I personally love Tim Burton's movies. and i also think that if any one director needs to be stopped. its Uwe Boll. and on top of that, also think about how the Indiana Jones franchise is being raped. there are worse things...FAR worse things than what Timmy does.