Someone please stop Tim Burton.
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No it just means people got tired of watching the same style over and over. It's amazing once, cool twice, by the third time you already starting to bore out of it, by the fourth you just want it to go away and on the fifth you just stab your eyes out cause the pain is to much.Tdc2182 said:
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Johnny Depp in Burtonland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/extra/video/p006w55c
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Johnny Depp in Burtonland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/extra/video/p006w55c
'WrongSprite said:
How exactly is someone supposed to know if they like something or not, if they haven't seen it?
The OP went to the movie to see if he would like it, having low expectations.. and didn't like it. Simple as that.
I like most Tim Burton movies, but he's hardly being the Tim Burton we all love and remember.
Back in the days before Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. That movie was okay and a little funny, but after that, it just went down hill as he kept making remakes of things that were perfectly fine by themselves.
I remember back when Nightmare Before Christmas came out first, people weren't shitting themselves over it as much as people or getting over excited about his movies now.
Also, remaking Wizard of Oz would be terrible.
He'd just be taking a lovely movie, splashing some "dark and gritty" colors to it, twisting the characters into over-emphasized...things.. and then all the little emo and scene tweens will be all over it.
Back in the days before Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. That movie was okay and a little funny, but after that, it just went down hill as he kept making remakes of things that were perfectly fine by themselves.
I remember back when Nightmare Before Christmas came out first, people weren't shitting themselves over it as much as people or getting over excited about his movies now.
Also, remaking Wizard of Oz would be terrible.
He'd just be taking a lovely movie, splashing some "dark and gritty" colors to it, twisting the characters into over-emphasized...things.. and then all the little emo and scene tweens will be all over it.
It's silly to complain about classics being degraded. It's not like we don't have the originals to view or read whenever we wish.
New versions, no matter how horrible, will never "ruin" the original, except for people who see the new version first - for whom it is probably marketed anyway.
New versions, no matter how horrible, will never "ruin" the original, except for people who see the new version first - for whom it is probably marketed anyway.
By the way Tim Burton didn't direct "A Nightmare Before Christmas" it was directed by Henry Selick who never gets mentioned when people talk about it and he proved that he could really direct stop motion when he did Coraline that he wasn't just the director in name only
I think people that don't make films and can't entertain and resort to starting topics on the internet of how famous movie makers need to be stopped, need to be stopped.
Like seriously.
What's your beef?
You don't have any, you're the critic with nothing calling out the boy in the schoolyard that has everything because you are filled with envy.
Human beings arent that mysterious once you remove all the glamor.
Like seriously.
What's your beef?
You don't have any, you're the critic with nothing calling out the boy in the schoolyard that has everything because you are filled with envy.
Human beings arent that mysterious once you remove all the glamor.
So basically he has a better record (if only going by your observations) than any other director I can think of other than Alfred Hitchcock.JaredXE said:
Not bad.
He has a very specific style but he's still a great filmmaker.
Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Nightmare Before Christmas, Big Fish, Sweeney Todd etc. He makes good movies.
Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Nightmare Before Christmas, Big Fish, Sweeney Todd etc. He makes good movies.
No doubt his version of Alive in Wonderland is fucking awful. I mean, how the fuck could anyone that has made good movies before make something so bloody bad? If I had hired it, I would of turned it off before half-way through the film, the characters and everything else that made Alice in Wonderland interesting was butchered so badly, I had to watch the animation again to make it wasn't that shit in the first place. Turns out it wasn't just nostalgia, the animation is just a fun adventure with a special charm to it. /rant
Funny enough, I have mixed feelings about him moving onto Wizard of Oz. I usually say "they could do better next time" because you never really know, but after seeing that abomination I'm very sure it's just to make another quick buck.
Oh and don't bring up The Nightmare Before Christmas, that was directed by Henry Selick.
Funny enough, I have mixed feelings about him moving onto Wizard of Oz. I usually say "they could do better next time" because you never really know, but after seeing that abomination I'm very sure it's just to make another quick buck.
Oh and don't bring up The Nightmare Before Christmas, that was directed by Henry Selick.
I second this emotion. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.161340-The-reason-I-hate-Michael-Bay]versoth said:
M. Knight. Shamanishsimdiln?SimuLord said:
Wholeheartedly agreed, almost. I would say it isn't so much remakes, but when he is working with material that isn't really his to begin with he makes a monumental turtle-fuck of the entire thing which leaves anyone with any artistic taste foaming at the mouth.Random Argument Man said:
He should be put on trial for his Planet of the Apes remake. That was almost as offensive as the new Indiana Jones film fridge scene.
I didn't see Planet of the Apes. However, I don't know why people critize the fridge scene. Indiana Jones is an adventure film. The genre that permitted itself to break the laws of physics. There's a ton of moment more stupid than the fridge scene in Indiana Jones only. I can't even begin to count the stupid moments in the entire genre.cuddly_tomato said:
Yes, but everyone is WELL aware of Herr Boll's atrocities.SpaceSpork said:
But try explaining to a Jack-Skellington-handbag-toting fangirl that you're not a huge fan of Tim Burton (a moot point, considering he neither wrote nor directed A Nightmare Before Christmas), and you'd best be prepared to lose one or more: Eardrums, testicle, nights of sleep.
*sigh*
I wish someone would send me the memo on these things, just a few months ago I remember a thread about everyone discussing which classic stories they'd like to be given the Tim Burton treatment and now here I am with a thread about how 'please for the love of god someone take Burton's licence away'*.
*Note that while I disagree with the opinions of the people who dislike Tim Burton I still respect and acknowledge their rights to them.
Honestly I can kind of understand the annoyance of always seeing Helena Bonham Carter and Johnny Depp in those movies but for me at least that was part of the charm, it's true that these days he's more of a brand but I still think it's at least an aesthetically appealing brand.
Further more he's made some damn good and clever movies in the past, Nightmare Before Christmas, Corpse Bride, Sleepy Hollow, Edward Scissorhands, Big Fish, Sweeny Todd, Beetlejuice as well as a few others so if you ask me the man has got talent, granted he hasn't really been displaying it as much recently but I still consider myself a fan.
Though overall I think the problem is Tim Burton is now more used as a brand and less like a director and even though he can get to make some nice artistic visuals and little bits of quirky humour that are still his style overall I get the feeling he's kind of being peddled around to make movies guarenteed to sell rather then ones he'd want to make personally.
I mean I remember reading a quote of him saying that he loved the musical 'Sweeny Todd' and hence that's why I feel the actual movie he made ended up being so good was because he actually wanted to pour effort into it because it was more or less 'his thing'... I.E. take creepy elements and give them a dark sense of humour to them.
As for Wizard of OZ though, honestly I don't think it's one of those stories that needs remaking by anyone, even a director who could create a portal to heaven through a projector would still be considered redundant. The original film is one of the most beloved movies of all time and any remaking would only garnish the effect of it, because there's nothing that can be done that the original didn't already do perfectly by itself.
If you ask me, I reckon Burton should be given some room for creative venting and maybe come back with another stop motion gleeful and gruesome story involving ghosts and zombies and skeletons and such.... because really that's where he excells if you ask me.
I wish someone would send me the memo on these things, just a few months ago I remember a thread about everyone discussing which classic stories they'd like to be given the Tim Burton treatment and now here I am with a thread about how 'please for the love of god someone take Burton's licence away'*.
*Note that while I disagree with the opinions of the people who dislike Tim Burton I still respect and acknowledge their rights to them.
Honestly I can kind of understand the annoyance of always seeing Helena Bonham Carter and Johnny Depp in those movies but for me at least that was part of the charm, it's true that these days he's more of a brand but I still think it's at least an aesthetically appealing brand.
Further more he's made some damn good and clever movies in the past, Nightmare Before Christmas, Corpse Bride, Sleepy Hollow, Edward Scissorhands, Big Fish, Sweeny Todd, Beetlejuice as well as a few others so if you ask me the man has got talent, granted he hasn't really been displaying it as much recently but I still consider myself a fan.
Though overall I think the problem is Tim Burton is now more used as a brand and less like a director and even though he can get to make some nice artistic visuals and little bits of quirky humour that are still his style overall I get the feeling he's kind of being peddled around to make movies guarenteed to sell rather then ones he'd want to make personally.
I mean I remember reading a quote of him saying that he loved the musical 'Sweeny Todd' and hence that's why I feel the actual movie he made ended up being so good was because he actually wanted to pour effort into it because it was more or less 'his thing'... I.E. take creepy elements and give them a dark sense of humour to them.
As for Wizard of OZ though, honestly I don't think it's one of those stories that needs remaking by anyone, even a director who could create a portal to heaven through a projector would still be considered redundant. The original film is one of the most beloved movies of all time and any remaking would only garnish the effect of it, because there's nothing that can be done that the original didn't already do perfectly by itself.
If you ask me, I reckon Burton should be given some room for creative venting and maybe come back with another stop motion gleeful and gruesome story involving ghosts and zombies and skeletons and such.... because really that's where he excells if you ask me.