Souls- Do we have them?

[llewgriff]

I don't belive in the soul and if we did have a soul it wouldn't be some magic thing put in by god, it'll be part of the brain.

 

[dontworryaboutit]

My friend lost mine in a card game.

Weird part is I don't remember ever giving it to him in the first place.

 

[ShadeOfRed]

No. The soul has it's roots in religion, mostly God gives us a soul. For those who don't really believe in God, a soul isn't something they generally believe in either.

 

[Neonbob]

I bought mine on Amazon...they were having a sale.

Really cheap!

Edit: I think its second hand but who cares...

You got one on Amazon? I had to go through a contact in the russian black market.
I certainly hope we have souls, if not for my vested interest in the market, then for the hope of the true pieces of crap in humanity to undergo severe torture after they die. That makes me smile.

Pff...Black Markets is soooo 20th Century get up with the times.

I don't wanna! The current times suck! And the russians are good about shipping quickly.

 

[oliveira8]

I bought mine on Amazon...they were having a sale.

Really cheap!

Edit: I think its second hand but who cares...

You got one on Amazon? I had to go through a contact in the russian black market.
I certainly hope we have souls, if not for my vested interest in the market, then for the hope of the true pieces of crap in humanity to undergo severe torture after they die. That makes me smile.

Pff...Black Markets is soooo 20th Century get up with the times.

I don't wanna! The current times suck! And the russians are good about shipping quickly.

They charge extra!

And last time I bought something from Russians they forgot to put holes in the box so my Alien specimen died!

Damn Russians!

 

[zoozilla]

If human beings did not have a soul (or anything that is more than our external being), how would we be able to come up with the concept?

Doesn't the fact that you are wondering about the soul imply that the soul exists?

 

[A Playful Shark]

no

Thank you for the stimulating and well thought out response.
I applaud you.

No offense, but is there any real discussion here? I could ask if my ass produces undetectable, magical fairies; I'd get the same useful dialogue out of that discussion.

I'm fairly certain that question would not generate discussion like this (and this has been in the first five minutes):

I can't say for sure, but to say that nothing is there is ignorant. Most call it a soul and thus I will refer to it as such.

Think about who you are. Think about the big things and the smalls things. What's your favorite color? What's your favorite food? What kind of music do you like? et cetera.

So much differences that go beyond skin muscle tissue and bone. We also have emotions. Unlike machines we feel, think, and we even dream. Anyone can base around logic, but those "gut feelings" that some people get is your soul sensing something your mind misses.

Heroes of our age can defined as ones who defy logic. Who consider logic as an option, not a means even if logically an answer is better than the ones they choose.

Some people I know only base their life around logic and science, but neither one can explain everything. Love for example. Why do one like one attribute and hate the other why some others think the opposite?

Bullshit artist say "Oh it is mere chemical reactions in the brain and hormones." I beg to differ because love is something that goes beyond simple chemical reactions and brainwaves.

Do we have souls? I can't say for sure. It is like asking "Is there god?" or "Do ghosts exist?" All I can say it is ignorant to say that nothing is there because there is something there and there are something that go beyond what science can explain.

That's an interesting question. I don't really believe in a soul, because it's existence is just to hard too fathom, even more so than my own lack of existence when I die. I don't know, I just can't fathom it.

But then again, what do we define as a soul? Does it have to be something which goes on to heaven (or hell, for that matter)? Or is it really just another word for our consciousnesses?

 

[Kogarian]

I'm fairly certain that question would not generate discussion like this (and this has been in the first five minutes)

Ah, but I said nothing of size. I attacked it's usefulness.

 

[ygetoff]

That's an interesting question. I don't really believe in a soul, because it's existence is just to hard too fathom, even more so than my own lack of existence when I die. I don't know, I just can't fathom it.

But then again, what do we define as a soul? Does it have to be something which goes on to heaven (or hell, for that matter)? Or is it really just another word for our consciousnesses?

Well then let's do an experiment and find out. If the soul is made of matter, and it leaves when the person dies, take the mass of a person just before and after they die. Any volunteers?

 

[Neonbob]

They charge extra!

And last time I bought something from Russians they forgot to put holes in the box so my Alien specimen died!

Damn Russians!

Huh. Mine are usually good about making sure I get stuff in good condition. I guess killing that one guy to ensure this helped out.

 

[A Playful Shark]

That's an interesting question. I don't really believe in a soul, because it's existence is just to hard too fathom, even more so than my own lack of existence when I die. I don't know, I just can't fathom it.

But then again, what do we define as a soul? Does it have to be something which goes on to heaven (or hell, for that matter)? Or is it really just another word for our consciousnesses?

Well then let's do an experiment and find out. If the soul is made of matter, and it leaves when the person dies, take the mass of a person just before and after they die. Any volunteers?

I vaguely remember there was a study about that a while back...
Maybe i'm just crazy.
Time to Google!

Edit: It was on snopes, i'll try to find more. http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp

 

[Avatar Roku]

I'm fairly certain that question would not generate discussion like this (and this has been in the first five minutes)

Ah, but I said nothing of size. I attacked it's usefulness.

Dude, this is an internet forum. What use is any of this discussion? Just lighten up and have fun with it.

 

[Zand88]

no

Thread over.

 

[Kogarian]

Well then let's do an experiment and find out. If the soul is made of matter, and it leaves when the person dies, take the mass of a person just before and after they die. Any volunteers?

But how do we account for flatulence?!

 

[Kogarian]

Dude, this is an internet forum. What use is any of this discussion? Just lighten up and have fun with it.

But...I did. Did you think me bringing up invisible ass fairies was serious? And discussions are useful, as they make you think.

 

[ShadeOfRed]

If human beings did not have a soul (or anything that is more than our external being), how would we be able to come up with the concept?

Doesn't the fact that you are wondering about the soul imply that the soul exists?

I've often wondered about a legion of flying pigs, does that imply that they exist on this plane of reality?
EDIT: In order to prevent misconceptions, I'm attacking your logic, not you or the idea.

 

[Iron Mal]

I am certain that I don't have a soul or spiritual essence of any form, but this would not stop me from exploiting the concept.

My plan is to sell my soul to the Devil, when it comes to the day when I have to pay up, hand him my soul and go to Hell I would simply turn around and say 'I am sorry but I have no soul to give you, you should have read the small print, better luck next time Nick'.

 

[Steeveeo]

Can't prove it exists, can't prove that it doesn't exist, at least not in ways documentable at this time via the scientific method, and/or be bashed by any third party.

I am gunna go against the popular forum response of "no" and go ahead and say "yes." However, this is not just a spite thing, I firmly believe in the afterlife. Not quite a Christian, but some odd variant. I believe its called Macrophilosophy, look it up some time.