If all space marines wear helmets then there are female space marines, they just use voice synthasisers
Space Marine women?
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As others have pointed out, the movie Aliens, which was the pioneer or the whole space marine thing had them.
Lt. Ellen Ripley, though not technically a space marine, might as well have been. She used guns, killed a lot of aliens, and fought the Alien Queen in a giant powerloader, which is like a forklift...with arms and legs.
Pvt. Vasquez was another female space marine. She was very tough, and was one of the last people to die. She also used the strongest and biggest weapon: The Smart Gun. Basically it is a 4-5 foot long machine gun, that she carries around, and uses pretty darn well.
There another female space marine, but she died early on. She was a pilot I think.
Great movie. A must see for any Sci-fi, horror, or FPS fan. Also it has a ton of subtle feminine undertones, so women should love it too.
Lt. Ellen Ripley, though not technically a space marine, might as well have been. She used guns, killed a lot of aliens, and fought the Alien Queen in a giant powerloader, which is like a forklift...with arms and legs.
Pvt. Vasquez was another female space marine. She was very tough, and was one of the last people to die. She also used the strongest and biggest weapon: The Smart Gun. Basically it is a 4-5 foot long machine gun, that she carries around, and uses pretty darn well.
There another female space marine, but she died early on. She was a pilot I think.
Great movie. A must see for any Sci-fi, horror, or FPS fan. Also it has a ton of subtle feminine undertones, so women should love it too.
If you follow 40K canon Sisters of Battle are the female equivelant of Space Marines.
All charted chapters of Space Marines are Male. All mechanius adeptus are male. Some servitors could be classed as female, but they arent exactly human after being made into servitors. Some Inquisitors are female. Females can be found in Imperial Guard units. Females can occur in both Eldar and Dark Eldar.
Space Marines in 40k get no time off, always going from one point to the next, usually one battlefield to the next. Very rarely their journies will take them back to their homeworld, but some marines go their enitre time without once setting foot there in 500 years. Space Marines dont really mingle umongst themselves either, usually spending their "spare time" in meditation or private training ( usually melee with servitors programmed for combat ). When not doing these things they can be found servicing their armour, repairing it, polishing it. About once a week they might sleep for 3 hours, but not usually, more usually they are lucky to sleep once a month.
Thats all i can think of for now..
All charted chapters of Space Marines are Male. All mechanius adeptus are male. Some servitors could be classed as female, but they arent exactly human after being made into servitors. Some Inquisitors are female. Females can be found in Imperial Guard units. Females can occur in both Eldar and Dark Eldar.
Space Marines in 40k get no time off, always going from one point to the next, usually one battlefield to the next. Very rarely their journies will take them back to their homeworld, but some marines go their enitre time without once setting foot there in 500 years. Space Marines dont really mingle umongst themselves either, usually spending their "spare time" in meditation or private training ( usually melee with servitors programmed for combat ). When not doing these things they can be found servicing their armour, repairing it, polishing it. About once a week they might sleep for 3 hours, but not usually, more usually they are lucky to sleep once a month.
Thats all i can think of for now..
Just to end this now since i'm getting bored of reading the poorly responses if you want to know why there are no "Space Marine" women, (Not sisters of battle, they are Witch Hunter women although the same 'human' race they are different) you should seriously think about reading up on some Warhammer history. Its all in the tabletop handbooks and things like that go and buy them, read them then you'll know.
Oh, the hilarity. I think we're rather missing the point here. It's no point me touting canon impossibility, is it?
Allow me then to tell you why there shouldn't be female space marines.
Because the idea of not having them is flawed.
The 40K universe is stylized as Patriarchal, unequal and flawed. Applying equality of the sexes in the department of Power Armor isn't about girls versus boys, it rubs wrong the entire canonical flavor of the Human Empire. Warlike and brutal, flawed and dying. Patching up anything about it to meet modern standards, be it gender-based or political correctness (Nobody rallies for Tau space marines right? Why no tolerance in that department?) is wrong because ruins the basis of that universe.
It's not about defending the treehouse from girls. It's stopping people cutting down the damn tree. The 40K human empire is flawed, old and stagnant. That's the point. Apply modern standards and you lose the premise of the universe. If i'm 'immature' for defending the basis of the game, then sue me. There's a point where the line needs to be drawn. Adding our notions of justice and opportunity to a universe based on their absence is quite frankly, stupid.
Yes, it's wrong, it's boyish and a little illogical: That's the point.
More to the point: So what?
Allow me then to tell you why there shouldn't be female space marines.
Because the idea of not having them is flawed.
The 40K universe is stylized as Patriarchal, unequal and flawed. Applying equality of the sexes in the department of Power Armor isn't about girls versus boys, it rubs wrong the entire canonical flavor of the Human Empire. Warlike and brutal, flawed and dying. Patching up anything about it to meet modern standards, be it gender-based or political correctness (Nobody rallies for Tau space marines right? Why no tolerance in that department?) is wrong because ruins the basis of that universe.
It's not about defending the treehouse from girls. It's stopping people cutting down the damn tree. The 40K human empire is flawed, old and stagnant. That's the point. Apply modern standards and you lose the premise of the universe. If i'm 'immature' for defending the basis of the game, then sue me. There's a point where the line needs to be drawn. Adding our notions of justice and opportunity to a universe based on their absence is quite frankly, stupid.
Yes, it's wrong, it's boyish and a little illogical: That's the point.
More to the point: So what?
Well, I wouldn't say they're inherently sexist in the Imperium of Man, since if I remember there isn't a law against female High Lords of Terra or Inquisitors and those two are the real people that have the power, it is in the canon and, as stupid of a scientific reason as they give, it's not like the Imperium understands science any more and they are certainly nonprogressive.Ultrajoe said:
Though yeah, you can't really argue on equality given that the Imperium is not intended to be a good place. No one in 40k can be called good. The closest you get is maybe the Imperial Guardsmen, who are primarily short lived conscripts and most of them are still horribly horribly xenophobic. That's the entire point of the game, every one and every thing is screwed up. It's the worst of everything. The Tau are crazed communist dictators that mindwipe people, the Eldar screwed up, made a foul god, and aren't trying to fix the problem to redeem themselves but so that they don't get tortured. They don't care about anyone. The Necrons was to end the living for the most part, and are the result of a Faustian bargain for immortality by some very short lived creatures. The Imperium is everything wrong with religion, politics, and hell, people. The Orks are WAAAAAGH and ferocity. Chaos are demons. Nids are om-nom-nom-nom.
And hell, that's just the point of 40k, isn't it?
I mean, the freaking God of HOPE is evil.
Tau have women.
They are good at killing space marines. : o
Most wear the XV18 or XV28 'stealth battlesuit' (Megaman and Eggman, respectively.)
So I guess that's all I really have to say about 40k females. I had just assumed women who were down with the emperor were placed into the SoB for one reason or another. With any luck after a few more decades of technological advancements my people will wipe your people off the stars while you're still building the same old guns and tanks from your little storybooks.(This is a joke. Please do not take offense.)
And as for what female 'Space Marines' would be like... They'd probably have different bathrooms and sleeping areas.
... Or maybe they'd be like Arlene Sanders from the Doom bookseries. That's more interesting to my mind, at least. ^^
They are good at killing space marines. : o
Most wear the XV18 or XV28 'stealth battlesuit' (Megaman and Eggman, respectively.)
So I guess that's all I really have to say about 40k females. I had just assumed women who were down with the emperor were placed into the SoB for one reason or another. With any luck after a few more decades of technological advancements my people will wipe your people off the stars while you're still building the same old guns and tanks from your little storybooks.(This is a joke. Please do not take offense.)
And as for what female 'Space Marines' would be like... They'd probably have different bathrooms and sleeping areas.
... Or maybe they'd be like Arlene Sanders from the Doom bookseries. That's more interesting to my mind, at least. ^^
Oh, and one other aside. Another sign my side's on the up, there are human Tau. Justsayin. : 3Ultrajoe said:
At least they get taken care of, allowed to live and work after trying to kill Tau soldiers and changing sides only because they got left behind by their cruel, uncaring fellow man. But I'm not an expert on them, per se. Unarmored jerks with pistols aren't really worth the points to me.TGLT said:
Space Marine women are a biological impossibility as the multitude of space marine biological implants depend heavily on testosterone to function.
It won't happen. Ever. No. Drop it, it's a stupid idea. The Sisters of Battle are close enough.
As for what Space Marines do with their free time, there was a Games Workshop article that gave a blow by blow of their day to day life.
It won't happen. Ever. No. Drop it, it's a stupid idea. The Sisters of Battle are close enough.
As for what Space Marines do with their free time, there was a Games Workshop article that gave a blow by blow of their day to day life.
Oh, now Tyranids are fun! They actually give me a run for my money, due to their completely opposite playing style. Now that's a fun game of 40k.Ultrajoe said:
I don't know what the canon is, per se, but I know that every time I come up against the 'Nids I end up winning... I have a hard time seeing the Tau go down to them, assuming their forces include a judicial application of Kroot.
I'm afraid it's not. The XY gender has a greater fight/flight reaction, musculature around vital areas, less internal vital organs, shorter life span, better spatial awareness, greater average size, no downtime in race production; so is built for frontline troops. It's hampered by it's need to protect the XX gender, so it's mind is more focussed when not exposed to the XX pheromone.Silver said:
The XX gene though is more resilient, lighter, greater at multi-tasking, faster ability to learn, capable of short bursts of immense destructive force and greater stamina, but equally hampered by the XY pheromone.
The thing needed though, would be research into the YY gender, to see if it is capable of surviving.
You can argue about the political and sociological issues as much as you wish, but biologically that's why any animal works like that. Frontline have to be XX, Specialists are often XY. If there is a glut in one gender, then they can be used as cannon fodder, but we're looking at the most biologically capable.
Dwarves or Elves differ of course, because genetically they're different, but I doubt a Harlequin still has their 'nads intact.
Seconded. For some reason never explained, women just can't be 40k Space Marines. It's something about their physical constitution or their hormones or something. But it basically boils down to no women Space Marines. That's why they made the Sisters.Ultrajoe said:
Thank you. God, i'm all for gender equality but hell people, we ARE bilogically built for certain roles.The_root_of_all_evil said: