Ask aynone with kids. They'll push the boundaries. its part of the growing up and learning limits phase. when they finally learn the worst that can happen that they experience, tehy stop.Fagotto said:
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Are you referring to anecdotal evidence? Come to think of it, that is a bit of a misnomer. While it is referred to as anecdotal evidence, it really isn't much in the way of evidence. Within the scope of an argument, anecdotal "evidence" is best suited for making a point relevant, while actual research factually supports the point. I'd never even thought about that. Good point.emeraldrafael said:
There are easier ways but spanking is often easier because talking to a child often will not work. A lot of you children will be persistently stubborn to their ideas, even if the idea is terrible. A lot of people might find spanking a bit gratuitous but it is often for the best, so a child won't grow up into an idiotic pig who gets what they want when they want it.
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spanking would have been the best option.
spanking would have been the best option.
Well, sometimes.
You can tell your child a dozen times that the oven is hot and touching it is bad, but some children will learn it only after they touched the oven. We learn/experience things basically in two ways, one is learning-by-watching/hearing, the other is learning-by-doing. The occasional spank is the learning-by-doing method of teaching. As always a healthy mix between these two methods is usually the best method for raising a child. Although in the end it depends on the child how effective each method really is.
You can tell your child a dozen times that the oven is hot and touching it is bad, but some children will learn it only after they touched the oven. We learn/experience things basically in two ways, one is learning-by-watching/hearing, the other is learning-by-doing. The occasional spank is the learning-by-doing method of teaching. As always a healthy mix between these two methods is usually the best method for raising a child. Although in the end it depends on the child how effective each method really is.
I agree with what you say and I wouldn't say that a large part of my development as a child attributes to the spanking I recieved, like I've said, the spanking I recieved went hand in hand with the love, care and affection I recieved and of course those positives had a larger share on my positive outcome, and yes, not in all cases is spanking necessary, neither do all children push the boundaries. But in the rare case, some children do, like I said, I myself did it, in fact, the only person I ever listened to was my mother, and even she had a hard time with me. Admittedly I was expelled from several primary schools for my extreme temper tantrums (which resulted in one school having its books torn and its fish tank smashed). So seeing as my mother used to get my attention with a good smack on my bottom when I wasn't listening and then turn me towards her face, come down to my level and speak to me firmly, I'd say it had an effect on my up bringing.Fagotto said:
I like to think there is no such thing as a bad child, there is only bad parenting, but my parents were amazing parents, and they still are, it's evident in the fact they have adopted my little sister and she is the happiest little person I know. My brother and I both recieved smacks and we talk about it proudly because while the smacks themselves didn't make us better people, they contributed in a small way.
Sometimes I would love to smack a kid but since I don't have any, I have none to smack. I was spanked and I turned out alright I think. My brother hasn't been and he's kind of bratty but he is 9 so...I dunno. Still plenty of time for him to cross the line.
Well it does get a message across (like smacking a kid rather hard then telling them "WALKING OUT INTO THE STREET IS DANGEROUS" is more effective then acting all calm and telling them softly "that's a no no dearie")pulse2 said:
On that note there is such a thing as too far and I was rather abused... which is probably why I treat death like a part of everyday life. (treat killing like "well it was going to happen anyways" and death like "well- do I have to mourn them? it's not like they can care now")
yeah I'm rather damaged...
Some people can be talked into discipline. Some people only understand raw power. We do what we must
The definition of Negative Reinforcement is the proof. A definition isn't reason; it is evidence. It is just taking away something unfavorable to increase the frequency of an action. That is really all there is too it. Whether something is punishment or reinforcement depends on the outcome. In negative reinforcement it is the lack of something that encourages a behavior. In both of my examples it is the lack of chores and the lack spanking that is the reinforcement.Koroviev said: