Spartan Vs Astartes

[orangebandguy]

Astartes.

They make Spartans look like toy soldiers. I don't know the armour penetrating capabilities of an energy sword, but the assault rifle would do very little to Astartes plate.

 

[ChupathingyX]

Are you kidding?

The Adeptus Astartes would just kill him with one finger.

They have superior armour, weapons, training, experience, courage, not to mention a lot more organs.

 

[Xixikal]

Chief. He's actually genetically modified.
Space Marines are only elite humans.

 

[Jakub324]

Astartes. Every time. The only thing the Chief has that could possibly harm him is the energy sword, which won't do so if the Chief's insides are scattered over a space the size of Africa.

 

[Lil_Rimmy]

Chief. He's actually genetically modified.
Space Marines are only elite humans.

Incorrect, space marines are genetically modified super humans with better armor, weapons and training. And remember that bolter rounds explode and that a plasma rifle can even cut through terminator armor. Really, what is a pistol and a assault rifle gonna do to a space marine? Its like taking on a tank with a rock.

Go Space Marines.

 

[ChupathingyX]

Chief. He's actually genetically modified.
Space Marines are only elite humans.

Space marines have tons of genetic alterations made to them. They have like a double of every organ in their body so that if one gets destroyed they still have another.

One of these implants is a progenoid, an organ capable of creating a geneseed. So even if the Space marine was killed the geneseed could be used to create another.

 

[Lil_Rimmy]

Chief. He's actually genetically modified.
Space Marines are only elite humans.

Space marines hae tons of geneic alterations amde tot hem. They have like a double of every organ in their body so tat if one gets destroyed they still have another.

One of these implants is a progenoid, an organ capable of creating a geneseed. So even if the Space marine was killed the geneseed could be used to create another.

Don't forget the organ that lets them spit acid. And breath in space and acid air. And eat pretty much everything. And that they can filter out certain smells and noises so that they can pick out certain ones.

 

[norwegian-guy]

Astartes fight avatars of dark gods, orc-hordes, eldars, robots bend on ending all life.
Chief fights some religious aliens...
I'm going for the badasses here.

 

[Lood NL]

I'm a bit in doubt, because i don't now how agile Astartes are. If they aren't that agile i'd think the chief would win because he'd probably jump on top of them and punch important pieces of their armor to pieces ( he does it with tanks, why not with armored suits?). But since i've never played Starcraft i can't judge the outcome.

 

[Xixikal]

Incorrect, space marines are genetically modified super humans with better armor, weapons and training. And remember that bolter rounds explode and that a plasma rifle can even cut through terminator armor. Really, what is a pistol and a assault rifle gonna do to a space marine? Its like taking on a tank with a rock.

Go Space Marines.

Touche.
Even so, Master Chief would have more flexibility and dexterity with Mjolnir armor as opposed to Space Marine Terminator armor. That has to count for something.
I actually can't decide now. Let's just hope when worst comes to worst and after the entire galaxy is at stake, Spartans and Space Marines can work together... maybe

 

[Trivun]

I love how everyone mentioning the Astartes forget that they have no shield system on heir armour, except in certain cases. It certainly isn't standard, at any rate. Whereas Spartans have shield systems, and are physically the match of the Astartes thanks to their augmentations. The only difference here is that Astartes LOOK more powerful, because their armour is more padded out and bulky. That, by the way, also makes them much less quick and agile, where the Spartans have the edge. So if you think logically about this, Spartans have a severe advantage over the Astartes. It'll take more power to down an Astartes because of that bulked up armour, but nevertheless, Spartans would win, purely because they'd be able to attack more efficiently and effectively than an Astartes ever could.

 

[Scorpianhead]

Chief. He's actually genetically modified.
Space Marines are only elite humans.

Space marines hae tons of geneic alterations amde tot hem. They have like a double of every organ in their body so tat if one gets destroyed they still have another.

One of these implants is a progenoid, an organ capable of creating a geneseed. So even if the Space marine was killed the geneseed could be used to create another.

Don't forget the organ that lets them spit acid. And breath in space and acid air. And eat pretty much everything. And that they can filter out certain smells and noises so that they can pick out certain ones.

Don't forget that some of the space marine chapters have even more genetic modifications like the space wolves that have sharp fangs and hear and smell for miles.Also don't forget they can destroy a planet like it was nothing with there fleet so no matter what they win.

 

[Xixikal]

Don't forget the organ that lets them spit acid. And breath in space and acid air. And eat pretty much everything. And that they can filter out certain smells and noises so that they can pick out certain ones.

I concur. I just don't want it to be true!

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

I'm a bit in doubt, because i don't now how agile Astartes are. If they aren't that agile i'd think the chief would win because he'd probably jump on top of them and punch important pieces of their armor to pieces ( he does it with tanks, why not with armored suits?). But since i've never played Starcraft i can't judge the outcome.

What does starcraft have to do with anything, this is astartes... 40k fiction here? These things make starcraft space marines look like little girls. 1.5 times as tall as any person in plate about as thick as the width of your hand in some cases.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

funny i thought ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny threads weren't allowed...

I love how everyone mentioning the Astartes forget that they have no shield system on heir armour, except in certain cases. It certainly isn't standard, at any rate. Whereas Spartans have shield systems, and are physically the match of the Astartes thanks to their augmentations. The only difference here is that Astartes LOOK more powerful, because their armour is more padded out and bulky. That, by the way, also makes them much less quick and agile, where the Spartans have the edge. So if you think logically about this, Spartans have a severe advantage over the Astartes. It'll take more power to down an Astartes because of that bulked up armour, but nevertheless, Spartans would win, purely because they'd be able to attack more efficiently and effectively than an Astartes ever could.

irrelevant, as astartes armour is powered (think iron man or fallout powered armour), an astartes is just as agile with the armour as they would be without (in fact they'd probably be more agile as it increases their already progidious strength)

 

[Lil_Rimmy]

funny i though ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny threads weren't allowed?

I love how everyone mentioning the Astartes forget that they have no shield system on heir armour, except in certain cases. It certainly isn't standard, at any rate. Whereas Spartans have shield systems, and are physically the match of the Astartes thanks to their augmentations. The only difference here is that Astartes LOOK more powerful, because their armour is more padded out and bulky. That, by the way, also makes them much less quick and agile, where the Spartans have the edge. So if you think logically about this, Spartans have a severe advantage over the Astartes. It'll take more power to down an Astartes because of that bulked up armour, but nevertheless, Spartans would win, purely because they'd be able to attack more efficiently and effectively than an Astartes ever could.

irrelevant, as astartes armour is powered (think iron man or fallout powered armour), an astartes is just as agile with the armour as they would be without (in fact they'd probably be more agile as it increases their already progidious strength)

Yeah, I read somewhere that Space Marines are actually really agile because there armor works with the body. Some implant that makes the armor like a second skin. I think the implant was called the Black Carpace.

 

[Fidelias]

Okay, this is actually a hard question.

I think that if it were The Master Chief against one of them, the Chief would definitely win.

He has better training. (He was trained since 12 years old to be one of the most powerful killing machines in the universe.)

He has much better mobility and reflexes.

He has a lot of experience (He demolished entire armies single-handedly.)

He doesn't rely on his armor. He was trained to fight without it.

So really, against any kind of grunt without a face, he'd win, no question.

Now a Spartan vs a Space Marine is a toss-up. Dexterity and reflexes vs strength and armor. I'd probably still go with the spartans.

 

[RejjeN]

irrelevant, as astartes armour is powered (think iron man or fallout powered armour), an astartes is just as agile with the armour as they would be without (in fact they'd probably be more agile as it increases their already progidious strength)

As he said, the armors don't really hinder their movements at all. Part of the reason for this I imagine is that one of their implants connect their nervous-systems to that of the armor. The armors look incredibly bulky, but while they are very large the space marines themselves are massive (They are almost twice as wide as a regular human, if I'm not mistaken).
Edit: Blast, I got ninja'd!

Edit2: hey, guy above me. We're not talking Starcraft Space Marines here, we're talking the super-human chosen elite of the God Emperor of Mankind. Aka: Warhammer 40K Adeptus Astartes.

 

[Fidelias]

funny i though ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny threads weren't allowed?

I love how everyone mentioning the Astartes forget that they have no shield system on heir armour, except in certain cases. It certainly isn't standard, at any rate. Whereas Spartans have shield systems, and are physically the match of the Astartes thanks to their augmentations. The only difference here is that Astartes LOOK more powerful, because their armour is more padded out and bulky. That, by the way, also makes them much less quick and agile, where the Spartans have the edge. So if you think logically about this, Spartans have a severe advantage over the Astartes. It'll take more power to down an Astartes because of that bulked up armour, but nevertheless, Spartans would win, purely because they'd be able to attack more efficiently and effectively than an Astartes ever could.

irrelevant, as astartes armour is powered (think iron man or fallout powered armour), an astartes is just as agile with the armour as they would be without (in fact they'd probably be more agile as it increases their already progidious strength)

Yeah, I read somewhere that Space Marines are actually really agile because there armor works with the body. Some implant that makes the armor like a second skin. I think the implant was called the Black Carpace.

Yes, but the Master Chiefs armor isn't just like a second skin. It also increases his reflexes and dexterity ten-fold, so he'd still be much more agile than the Astartes.

 

[UberMore]

Touche.
Even so, Master Chief would have more flexibility and dexterity with Mjolnir armor as opposed to Space Marine Terminator armor. That has to count for something.
I actually can't decide now. Let's just hope when worst comes to worst and after the entire galaxy is at stake, Spartans and Space Marines can work together... maybe

Space Marines can march at about 15 mph for days, can run full sprint at about 70 mph if they needed too and are fast enough to dodge a hail of bolt and plasma fire. Also, they have the augmented strengths and speeds of the suit ONTOP of their already gratuitous augmentations, so they can move and punch harder than a Spartan.

I love how everyone mentioning the Astartes forget that they have no shield system on heir armour, except in certain cases. It certainly isn't standard, at any rate. Whereas Spartans have shield systems, and are physically the match of the Astartes thanks to their augmentations. The only difference here is that Astartes LOOK more powerful, because their armour is more padded out and bulky. That, by the way, also makes them much less quick and agile, where the Spartans have the edge. So if you think logically about this, Spartans have a severe advantage over the Astartes. It'll take more power to down an Astartes because of that bulked up armour, but nevertheless, Spartans would win, purely because they'd be able to attack more efficiently and effectively than an Astartes ever could.

A Spartan's energy shield can be taken offline with a small stream of bullets within seconds, and a single punch from an Astartes can destroy a 6 tonne column of Rockcrete, which I doubt an energy shield is comparable too in density/strength.
And as I said above, the armour of an Astartes may be heavy and bulky, but an Atartes is enhanced to deal with such weight and still move swiftly, plus the extra speed and strength granted by the armour itself.

A Spartan wouldn't stand a chance against an Astartes. If they even managed to pierce the armour, they'd have to land a killing strike with it, otherwise the Astartes would just heal instantaneously (near enough) because of the Larraman Cells designed for heavy-duty regeneration on the field.

And even if a Spartan managed to deal a heavy enough blow that the armour of an Astartes becomes ineffective, the Astartes alone would be a match for speed and strength. Without a suit they're as tall as a Spartan, also giving it a massive advantage.