Spiderman 4 cancelled...... WHY!!!!?

[Space Spoons]

According to the column [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/moviebob/7014-Spider-Man-No-More] MovieBob wrote about this, Sam Raimi got into a bit of a scuffle with Sony Pictures over creative control issues, namely the villains that would appear in Spider-Man 4. Venom's inclusion in 3 was entirely the fault of the studio and Raimi apparently wasn't about to let his vision be screwed over again.

Honestly, Spider-Man 4 being canceled isn't the absolute worst thing that could happen. They could easily diverge from the whole numerical route and start subtitling the movies directed by people other than Sam Raimi (The Amazing/Spectacular Spider-Man, Web of Spider-Man, Spider-Man Unlimited, etc). Taking the franchise back to its beginnings for a "grim and gritty" reboot, though? Eugh. Count me out.

Like MovieBob said, we'll probably all live to see good Spider-Man movies again. We'll just have to endure some terrible ones in the meantime.

 

[Xelioth]

Why did they cancel Spiderman 4?

for the record? the movie was canceled cause sony decided it needed to have the movie in 3D despite all the work that had already gone into it. Raimi couldn't do anything decent within the time frame and sony were apparently being pricks about the whole thing, so he walked.

go kill whoever at sony demanded the 3D if you want to kill someone, but really, did you actually WANT to see another after 3? I'm pretty lenient on movie quality and I know nothing of the spiderman plot, but that movie was terrible...

 

[Composer]

They want more.... MONEY!

Too many greasy 40 year old with limited allowences were going to these movies and not enough pre pubesent little girls and teen girls with dispoable income were watching

Its Toonami all over again (starts crying) 9/20/08 Never Forget!!!

[http://photobucket.com/images/toonami]

i miss toonami

 

[WolfThomas]

Nope, anyone who values the abortion that is resurrection above even 3 is rendered invalid.

Man Cracked has ruined me, http://www.cracked.com/funny-3809-internet-argument-techniques/, even though this isn't really serious, in this thread I've noticed myself use 3 and 9. As well as your recent use of 4 just then.

Weren't we talking about Spiderman at one point...?

 

[WolfThomas]

I'm going to have to add linking to cracked as something to start making me ignore anything anyone says. It's a funny site but linking to it is about as retarded as linking to a meme of any kind.

The spiderman discussion never really existed. It's been answered why Spiderman 4 was canceled. The third one sucked.

Fair enough, but it's just an accurate look at the most common techniques people use to argue on the internet. Now that I've read I can't help noticing when myself or others use (albeit far less extreme) examples of these.

Okay so question answered, I guess we can all go home now...

Anyone up for ping-pong?

 

[Red Hood]

YES, YES, GOD YES!! I wanted to see the Spiderman 4 movie. It could have redeemed 3, but now we will never know. I don't think its fair for you to basically say "big deal" when you're not familiar with the material. Did you see "Deadpool" (a.k.a Barakapool) in Origins? Did you see how they slandered Alan Moore's message in Watchmen? I'm sorry but this is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

 

[JaredXE]

Because the studio (the people with the money) wanted something, and Raimi threw a tantrum. So they fired his ass.

 

[WolfThomas]

And it wouldn't be bad if it wasn't for the fact that it's pretty much become a substitute for any form of an argument on some forums.

Yup.

I guess we can't have that.

You want to serve first? Or should we toss a coin?

 

[ffxfriek]

old news.... spiderman was lame from the beginning (the movies)

 

[thiosk]

Why did they cancel spiderman?

Because the spiderman franchise SUCKS.

The first movie sucked, the second movie was an embarrassment, and I wouldn't even watch the third movie (and finally everyone else seems to collectively agree with me in that case).

Good bye peter parker, good riddance, hope the reboot makes you live up to your rich heritage.

 

[AgDr_ODST]

im bummed by the reboot news but the crap that was #3 makes me think this is the right move. However, if the sparkly fagpire gets anywhere the lead role, I'll destroy every piece of spiderman memorabelia that I own

 

[Srkkl]

Because the third one sucked and they want to try a fresh approach.

 

[Zeromaeus]

Okay time for a series of points (Yay, points!). In reverse order of importance

1. Goodbye Toonami, I knew thee well.

2. Everything after Aliens was shite.

3. Spiderman 3 was a BIG disappointment. It sucked. While I am a big Spidey fan, I don't want to watch a movie with any amount of Peter Parker strutting. Ever. There wasn't enough Venom for a Venom villain movie and there wasn't enough behind Sandman for him to even make sense in the movie. The thing is, the people in charge of third movie decided to take the DC movies route and use the source material, the comics, as a loose basis for what they were putting in the movie. It wasn't devoted enough for the fans, it wasn't kiddy enough for the kids, it wasn't filed well enough for the critics. Oops.

4. Spiderman is outdated and I no longer care for it. Ultimate Spiderman. That is awesome stuff. So much better. So much better.

5. Are we surprised people? Comic movies have been circling the drain. Spidey 2 and 3. X-Men 2, 3, and Wolverine Origins (I mourn your credibility on the big-screen Deadpool. You never stood a chance against the machine). The Hulk movies. Any of the Hulk movies. Seriously, they can't make a good Hulk movie? Why the hell not? Its a solid premise. Nerd gets angry. Nerd hulks out. Hulk breaks things. Iron Man was pretty good, but its future is limited. The villain they chose is a symbol for communism after all. Or at least I think so. The ring guy? Mandarin?? Whatever. Batman. Well there can be found rare gems in any of the efforts of mankind.

6. The Ultimate series. Read it. Its cool. Seriously.

 

[topaztikal]

i reeeally hope that bit about robert patterson isn't true... i mean, tobey macguire was bad enough...
and i do so love spidey...

 

[JWAN]

Why not?
And never believe rumours. They tend to be of questionable quality.

Its not a rumor.
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Because it was going to suck more than the 3rd one is why.

 

[WolfThomas]

Okay time for a series of points (Yay, points!). In reverse order of importance

1. Goodbye Toonami, I knew thee well.
2. Everything after Aliens was shite.

3. Spiderman 3 was a BIG disappointment. It sucked. While I am a big Spidey fan, I don't want to watch a movie with any amount of Peter Parker strutting. Ever. There wasn't enough Venom for a Venom villain movie and there wasn't enough behind Sandman for him to even make sense in the movie. The thing is, the people in charge of third movie decided to take the DC movies route and use the source material, the comics, as a loose basis for what they were putting in the movie. It wasn't devoted enough for the fans, it wasn't kiddy enough for the kids, it wasn't filed well enough for the critics. Oops.

4. Spiderman is outdated and I no longer care for it. Ultimate Spiderman. That is awesome stuff. So much better. So much better.

5. Are we surprised people? Comic movies have been circling the drain. Spidey 2 and 3. X-Men 2, 3, and Wolverine Origins (I mourn your credibility on the big-screen Deadpool. You never stood a chance against the machine). The Hulk movies. Any of the Hulk movies. Seriously, they can't make a good Hulk movie? Why the hell not? Its a solid premise. Nerd gets angry. Nerd hulks out. Hulk breaks things. Iron Man was pretty good, but its future is limited. The villain they chose is a symbol for communism after all. Or at least I think so. The ring guy? Mandarin?? Whatever. Batman. Well there can be found rare gems in any of the efforts of mankind.

6. The Ultimate series. Read it. Its cool. Seriously.

Such wisdom. A Daniel come to judgment! yea, a Daniel!

But yeah, I agree with most points. While I'm excited about the prospects of an avengers movie, I very hesitant as I know how easily its going to be for them to screw it up.

The second Hulk at least wasn't as appalling bad as the first one, so I guess that's...kind of better.

 

[Super Offical]

Cos the others were shit.