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Nomanslander said:
In the Halo universe, everything is so black a white. It's us vs. them. Us being good, them being evil. Halo works on a level that a lot of old fiction use to when it came to real war propaganda. In how to inspire a bunch of young men to take arms against the foreign oppressors - reasons for risking their lives for country and kin.

Take the movie Starship Troopers. What's brilliant about that movie is that it works on that level only on the surface. But when you find out that the story is really about fascism and the humans are really the invading force...

Well...

I don't know. Halo is just too dumb for me. It's the story about the human struggle against one dimensional evil... and... yeah!
you clearly dont know much at all about Halo.
 

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Is the 'God's own anti-son of a ***** machine' line going to be in this proposed series? Because if it isn't, they need to scrap everything they're working on and go fix that.

Seriously, that was the high-point of Halo's dialog. It might be a contender for the best line ever spoken in a video game.
 

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I think a lot of people have forgotten what it was like to beat the first Halo. Before Halo 2 came out and took a lot of mystery out of the covenant, there was a huge sense of mystery as you progressed through the game. As far as you knew, the only reason the covenant wanted to bother with Halo was for more territory/resources. Other than that, the Halo ring is a large mysterious place where more and more is discovered about it as the story progresses. After the map "Two Betrayals," it's shown that neither the covenant nor the UNSC has a good understanding of the ring world and that it is something above their heads. It starts off with the appearance of an Unreal type of science fiction game with a standard science fiction dynamic of shooting aliens. Halo: CE also hints at, or straight-out references other things in the expanded universe.



Also, here's some music from Halo: CE that gave you a sense of mystery that would make you want to investigate further, or just think of the mysterious nature of a giant artificial world built by an unknown group of ancient beings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCgZ4dmPYOs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3db17gQ8XTs
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
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He seems like the perfect fit, his movies aren't very grounded either.
Dirty Hipsters said:
The story is actually presented very similarly to the stories of Half-Life and Left 4 Dead. The story isn't TOLD to you, rather you FIND it.
And i FIND it by reading the books. Mass Effect made me care about the game far beyond the mission particularly, the characters themselves. Nobody plays HALO for the characters, they play it to shot aliens. And capture the flag.
Nobody? Really, oh I guess I am a nobody because I play Halo for the story.
Which is why I didn't say story.
Eh, I mean the characters are part of the story and outside a few, the characters in Halo are enjoyable enough.
 

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Nomanslander said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
...expanded universe.
If Halo's story was any damn good, it would be in the games... not the DAMN books.

They could write 10,000 novels to explain to me the expanded details of how the story in the SW prequels worked... I wouldn't care. It wouldn't change the fact the movies still SUCKED!
Well I mean to be fair this thread is about halo ancillary content so the discussion is more about the universe as a whole than it is just the games. Though I will say unlike Star Wars, Halo's "expanded" universe actually makes its way into the games. I mean it's more in the background and undertones because halo is ultimately about shooting things, but it's not like George Lucas collecting royalties on officially licensed fan fiction.
 

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I wouldn't call Spielberg the 'perfect' choice but rather a safe and profitable one.
 

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Nomanslander said:
but the main games behind Halo only existed to get you from one shoot out with jabbering aliens to another, that and multiplayer.
Did you pay attention to any of the exposition at all? We get tons of hints at a larger universe that isn't so cut and dry in Halo CE, and then this is expanded upon when you get to play as one of the main antagonists in the second game.

The whole "humans good, aliens bad" could only be gleaned from maybe playing the first half of Halo CE, and sleeping through the rest of the series. There is so much there just from the games, that I'm vastly more interested in the Halo universe than Mass Effects. (But maybe that's because Mass Effect's sequels were horrible and Halo 2, 3 and Reach were just better and better)
 

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well forward onto dawn and terra nova were both really good, also my cats have turned into dragons and ive tamed a flying marshmallow and im now ruler of the sherbet kingdom.


in all seriousness this pissed me off because it was over half an hour into the conference and the only news interms of video games (and a video game console)was that ea was making sports games, then 343 comes on not to announce halo 5 or talk about how the new hardware can make them better games but to announce a tv show....
 

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For the love of god, why? Literally feels like a cheap attempt to attract gamers to a certain network. "Oh we have a show about Halo, what do you have?" "A show about gamers living in a house like Big Brother, please." "This is mother freaking Halo bitches." Very much all up in the living room with stories you have already seen in the other Halo movies. Even have a character that we made up for the show called Master Creep. Little retarded, we are going to give him a brooding back story and have him say the word noob.(he might even teabag)
 

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Diablo2000 said:
I not excited about it because there's nothing to be excited about.
We don't know if this is a independent story or not, the actors, the writers or that will even be made for that matter.

Until we get more concrete info about I sugest not creating expectations for it.
Exactly. All we have now is that some big name in the film industry will "executive produce" the thing. And aren't producers hardly involved in the making process anyway?
 

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Is this sort of thing what's going on in American pop culture today?

I'm glad I haven't had a subscription or whatever to American TV in years. Sorry to hear about how far you've fallen, Spielberg.

I'm going to stay here on the internet why things are still nice. You should come and join us instead of feeding the TV nobody uses anymore. I still have no ideas how cable and satellite television stay in business when everyone is watching youtube instead. Especially if this is the kind of content they put out.
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
Nouw said:
I wouldn't call Spielberg the 'perfect' choice but rather a safe and profitable one.
Band Of Brothers and The Pacific would like to have a word with you. Speilberg can do War series like no other.
Band of Brothers does have a word with me, everyday actually as it sits comfortably and proudly on my shelf. The difference to be noted is that Halo is not WW2 and the only similarity it has is a war-based setting. Spielberg has proven time after time he can do WW2, refer to Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan as well, but can he do it again with a science fiction setting? Yes he did E.T. but E.T. isn't MiFi. I'm not saying he's a bad choice, I'm just saying that Spielberg is an overly safe choice. I have no doubt he can provide a good war-series but can he make a good Halo war-series? I suppose I can't really complain with Band of Brothers in space, with aliens!
 

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Terminate421 said:
Forward unto dawn was awesome.

Seriously, how did anyone think THIS was bad news?
It was? I guess I might have to try it again. I just watched a little bit, but I thought it was Starship Troopers with less likable people. And I didn't like anyone in Starship Troopers.
 

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Nomanslander said:
Hafrael said:
Nomanslander said:
Hafrael said:
I refuse to watch anything Halo that isn't directed by Neil Blomkamp.
I refuse to watch anything Halo period.
Why not? I think the Haloverse is pretty damn interesting as far as scifi goes.
What? I said I'll watch it... lol

Anyways... why don't I like Halo?

I don't know. I guess it has something to do with the human and aliens relationships in that universe. For instance in the Mass Effect universe, humans are just another race trying to make it in the galaxy. The universe is grey, some races love us, some hate us. There's nothing special about humans, which is what forces the specious to try and stick out.

In the Halo universe, everything is so black a white. It's us vs. them. Us being good, them being evil. Halo works on a level that a lot of old fiction use to when it came to real war propaganda. In how to inspire a bunch of young men to take arms against the foreign oppressors - reasons for risking their lives for country and kin.

Take the movie Starship Troopers. What's brilliant about that movie is that it works on that level only on the surface. But when you find out that the story is really about fascism and the humans are really the invading force...

Well...

I don't know. Halo is just too dumb for me. It's the story about the human struggle against one dimensional evil... and... yeah!
Oh, believe you me it is anything but black and white. Lets consider all the factions at play by the events of Halo 4. We have the UNSC, the Covenant Remnant (AKA Storm Covenant), the seperate races that made up the Covenant, the human Insurrectionists, and the Forerunner Prometheans led by the Didact.

The UNSC are the military arm of the UEG (United Earth Government) and their main focus is good, protecting humanity across the Orion Arm of the Milky Way (i.e. all current human colonies). However, they are prepared to abandon entire worlds to the Covenant for the greater good, use nuclear weapons to wipe out enemy ground troops on planets they deem unsaveable, led a six year campaign with countless deaths to defend a single world that got glassed anyway at the start of the war (Harvest), and they kidnapped kids to use in the SPARTAN-II project. Their top scientist is a war criminal, as is the head of their spy division, ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence), and it's only near the end of her life that the chief spy redeems herself for said war crimes.

The Covenant Remnant are the villains of Halo 4, partly, so they're pretty bad. However, their leaders are nothing more than religious fundamentalists who believe what they're doing is right. Their main leader lost his wife and his best friend in the war with humans, so has personal reasons to see the humans wiped out. He's also been manipulated for all his life by other religious fundamentalists towards the beliefs he has.

The Sangheili (that is, Elites) are constantly shown to have a society and social structure very similar to humans, at least in certain terms (as well as a caste structure similar to that of, say, feudal times). We see plenty of main characters who are Sangheili, several of whom have wives and families. They're never shown as being pure evil, they're simply the other side in a war where they have every reason to believe their opponents are nothing but evil as well. Most of the bad stuff about Sangheili we see in the series is all but stated directly to be propaganda by ONI Section II. As for the other races, the San Shyuum (Prophets) are simply weak willed and led by manipulative bastards, the Huragok (Engineers) are 100% neutral and don't care about the conflict nor do they get involved in it, the Jiralhanae (Brutes) are intelligent and simply have a pack societal structure that is manipulated by the Prophets (after the war they mostly stay neutral), the Lekgolo (Hunters) are kind of coerced into joining the Covenant and are apparently creations of the Forerunners anyway, the Unggoy (Grunts) are forced into fighting and don't actually have anything against humans, and the Kig-Yar (Jackals) are mostly just mercenaries and pirates and are happy to fight for humans if paid enough.

The human Insurrectionists are mostly terrorists who use propaganda to make themselves out to be freedom fighters, however despite their evil acts they do have legitimate grievances against the UNSC. It's interesting to see how people who are fans of both Halo and Firefly will say they're staunch Browncoats in one sentence then in the next breath say they support the UNSC in Halo. The Innies are bad for using things like bombs in a nightclub (which in one Halo short story kill a main character's girlfriend and cause said character to have a breakdown) or for using nukes against the UNSC; on the other hand all they want is a chance to govern themselves instead of being ruled by an Earth that doesn't seem to care so much about the Outer Colonies (and again was willing to abandon worlds during the Covenant War to protect worlds nearer to Earth).

The remaining Sangheili on Sanghelios, as led by the Arbiter, are dealing with the Storm Covenant by the time of Halo 4, and during this civil war they don't want to fight against humans at all, in fact they want peace. The UNSC also wants peace, but a group within the UNSC (led by the head at the time of ONI) are deliberately trying to start a Sangheili civil war purely to score political and military points against the aliens.

The Forerunners have a big massive and complicated backstory I won't get into here due to its complexity, but the Didact has a legitimate reason to hate humans, in that they did massive damage to his race and forces in another war 100000 years ago and were apparently invading Forerunner space; it was only later that he found that the humans had legitimate reasons to invade said space (i.e. they were fleeing from the Flood for the first time). The only race, or set of characters, in fact, that could be considered truly 'evil' are the Flood, and they're a hive mind who are mostly following nothing more than instinct so even they have a very slight redemptive quality.

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Yeah, I'd say this is a lot more than just black and white.
 

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so it seems microsoft wants to be TV producers now... well hey, at least theyre trying something new. everyone thinks this is gonna be like the mini-series... its not. that was a glorious hybrid of artistry and ad campaign that happens once in a blue moon, a full on TV show is way too expensive to be an effective marketing technique for whatever halo s**t comes out, so its not going to have the same support. its at best going to be a decent HBO kind of drama and more likely an awkward failure like defiance.
 

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I can dig it, but then again, we have the right ingredients here.

- rich sci-fi universe ala Heinlein's Starship Troopers, Ringworld drops here and there, andwhatnot.
- Microsoft monieszzzzzz.....they haz lot.
- Spielberg, Indy 4 aside, the man has given us awesome stuff, also on tv.

Then again, i'm the only one hoping for a Nathan Fillion and Tricia Helfer oriented ODST series.
*weirdly enough, it's still my favorite HALO game*
 

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I'm super stoked. As long as they don't try and make it about master chief it should be even better than forward unto dawn.
I hope it's about ODST's, ODST is the most interesting part of the UNSC (IMO).