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Irridium said:
philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?
Because intercepting nukes or losing Earth the second the game starts isn't entertaining.
But it completely goes against what the Reapers are, creating quite a big contradiction of who they are. Just rubs me the wrong way is all.
Why would a full scale invasion go against what the reapers are? Sure, they're cold and calculatory, thus nuking would be expected. But what if this is how they harvest civilizations?
 
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Daedalus1942 said:
Interesting... so all that information on Karpsyhyn's book (revelation) about him being the "Lead Writer" of the Mass Effect video game is bulllshit? Great, the fucker's lied to me again...
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Okay.... I take it back. at least Drew had the good sense to rip off an old and obscure story. This new guy looks to be just ripping off War of the Worlds.
He was the lead writer for the first game. Just not the second. We'll see about the third, but I doubt it.
 

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RobCoxxy said:
I genuinely think I may have ejaculated a smidge.
I did too, but like everywhere.

OT: Even though the evidence that it was going to be announced was pretty convincing, there was still that niggling feeling that it wasn't. Not anymore! I am looking forward to kicking some Reaper arse.
 
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philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?
Because intercepting nukes or losing Earth the second the game starts isn't entertaining.
But it completely goes against what the Reapers are, creating quite a big contradiction of who they are. Just rubs me the wrong way is all.
Why would a full scale invasion go against what the reapers are? Sure, they're cold and calculatory, thus nuking would be expected. But what if this is how they harvest civilizations?
Humans have been the single greatest problem for them. It would be easier to just wipe them out, then get the rest of the Galaxy. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Again, I hope its for a good reason that isn't absurd, and we'll know more as time goes on. But I just don't know.
 

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xpk3 said:
RobCoxxy said:
I genuinely think I may have ejaculated a smidge.
I did too, but like everywhere.

OT: Even though the evidence that it was going to be announced was pretty convincing, there was still that niggling feeling that it wasn't. Not anymore! I am looking forward to kicking some Reaper arse.
I would have but I kinda took care of that earlier. LOL.

OT: I cannot wait one entire year though :(
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
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Freechoice said:
It was weird. Did anyone else think War of the Worlds? And did anyone else feel that Shep isn't going to be the protagonist of ME3?
I thought that at first too.
That would make sensw if Drew's now ripping off war of the worlds now... especially since it's set in England, and he did ripoff "The Sentinel"'s plot for the first game.
Would not surprise me at all.
God I hate Karpyshyn..
-Tabs<3-
I seriously doubt it's going to be set on Earth alone. A big part of Mass Effect is visiting other planets and experiencing alien cultures. And I love War of the Worlds, but Mr. Wells doesn't have the only say on alien invasions. I'm unfamiliar with The Sentinel, unfortunately, so can't comment on that. I'll check it out though.

Is your name Tabitha or something? I'm trying to figure out the "Tabs<3-" thing. Or are you just a fan of quick and easy indentation? Anyway, sorry you find ME unenjoyable.
 
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Irridium said:
philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
But it completely goes against what the Reapers are, creating quite a big contradiction of who they are. Just rubs me the wrong way is all.
Why would a full scale invasion go against what the reapers are? Sure, they're cold and calculatory, thus nuking would be expected. But what if this is how they harvest civilizations?
Humans have been the single greatest problem for them. It would be easier to just wipe them out, then get the rest of the Galaxy. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Again, I hope its for a good reason that isn't absurd, and we'll know more as time goes on. But I just don't know.
Maybe the Reapers are invading Earth just to demoralize the rest of the galaxy by showing that not even the Human race can stand up to them. Or its a trap for Shepard.
 

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DustyDrB said:
Daedalus1942 said:
brainamp said:
Freechoice said:
It was weird. Did anyone else think War of the Worlds? And did anyone else feel that Shep isn't going to be the protagonist of ME3?
I thought that at first too.
That would make sensw if Drew's now ripping off war of the worlds now... especially since it's set in England, and he did ripoff "The Sentinel"'s plot for the first game.
Would not surprise me at all.
God I hate Karpyshyn..
-Tabs<3-
I seriously doubt it's going to be set on Earth alone. A big part of Mass Effect is visiting other planets and experiencing alien cultures. And I love War of the Worlds, but Mr. Wells doesn't have the only say on alien invasions. I'm unfamiliar with The Sentinel, unfortunately, so can't comment on that. I'll check it out though.

Is your name Tabitha or something? I'm trying to figure out the "Tabs<3-" thing. Or are you just a fan of quick and easy indentation? Anyway, sorry you find ME unenjoyable.
That's my name yes, and I loved Mass effect despite the similarities to Clarke's short story.
I went into the 2nd game fatally optimistic. I bought the Collector's Edition expecting to be absolutely hooked and held off playing for months until the anticipation got too great and I caved, only to find everything I liked about Mass effect was pretty much gone.
The interesting and engaging plot had just permeated into an incoherent mess that didn't tie in with the first game at all.
I really did try to like the game. I wanted to like it... I didn't
The original combination of real time and rpg incorporated elements had been removed from the game in favour of turning it into just another third person shooter.
The cover system was so broken, and you stick to fucking everything. Gears of war was executed better.
The inventory system... now while it was annoying in the first game to turn everything to gel, I still thought it was a good idea and with some tweaking, maybe having less upgrades but more customizability, it could have been good.
Instead they just gutted the entirety of it in favour of some moronic idea of collecting items involving scanning things. God help you if you missed one on a planet, you can't go back... EVER!

Then there's the scanning, the absence of the Mako (which was a GREAT idea, just poorly executed).
Anyway, I shall stop my rant, but suffice to say, it's shaping up that this one will possibly be even worse.

-Tabs<3-
 
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philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
But it completely goes against what the Reapers are, creating quite a big contradiction of who they are. Just rubs me the wrong way is all.
Why would a full scale invasion go against what the reapers are? Sure, they're cold and calculatory, thus nuking would be expected. But what if this is how they harvest civilizations?
Humans have been the single greatest problem for them. It would be easier to just wipe them out, then get the rest of the Galaxy. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Again, I hope its for a good reason that isn't absurd, and we'll know more as time goes on. But I just don't know.
Maybe the Reapers are invading Earth just to demoralize the rest of the galaxy by showing that not even the Human race can stand up to them. Or its a trap for Shepard.
But if they meant to demoralize the galaxy, they'd attack the Turians. Who have far more military strength then the Alliance, and are essentially the face of the military in Citadel space.

A trap is far more likely. Although there are probably better ways to set traps, but attacking Earth to lure Shepard would be like killing 2 birds with one stone, so I suppose I could swallow that. Definitely better then abducting humans to make a human reaper.
 

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philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
But it completely goes against what the Reapers are, creating quite a big contradiction of who they are. Just rubs me the wrong way is all.
Why would a full scale invasion go against what the reapers are? Sure, they're cold and calculatory, thus nuking would be expected. But what if this is how they harvest civilizations?
Humans have been the single greatest problem for them. It would be easier to just wipe them out, then get the rest of the Galaxy. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Again, I hope its for a good reason that isn't absurd, and we'll know more as time goes on. But I just don't know.
Maybe the Reapers are invading Earth just to demoralize the rest of the galaxy by showing that not even the Human race can stand up to them. Or its a trap for Shepard.
On top of that they're probably pissed that Shepard keeps killing their guys, so attacking Earth could also be something of a retaliatory strike. And while they certainly could use nukes, it's probably not as viscerally satisfying as squishing the puny humans with their...tentacle...claw...finger things.
 

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I don't think it's hard to believe the Reapers aren't as perfect or logical as they claim to be. I mean, the Protheans managed to sabotage them once, and then sent out a warning. Maybe after millions of years and countless genocides, the Reapers are beginning to fall apart?
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
DustyDrB said:
Daedalus1942 said:
brainamp said:
Freechoice said:
It was weird. Did anyone else think War of the Worlds? And did anyone else feel that Shep isn't going to be the protagonist of ME3?
I thought that at first too.
That would make sensw if Drew's now ripping off war of the worlds now... especially since it's set in England, and he did ripoff "The Sentinel"'s plot for the first game.
Would not surprise me at all.
God I hate Karpyshyn..
-Tabs<3-
I seriously doubt it's going to be set on Earth alone. A big part of Mass Effect is visiting other planets and experiencing alien cultures. And I love War of the Worlds, but Mr. Wells doesn't have the only say on alien invasions. I'm unfamiliar with The Sentinel, unfortunately, so can't comment on that. I'll check it out though.

Is your name Tabitha or something? I'm trying to figure out the "Tabs<3-" thing. Or are you just a fan of quick and easy indentation? Anyway, sorry you find ME unenjoyable.
That's my name yes, and I loved Mass effect despite the similarities to Clarke's short story.
I went into the 2nd game fatally optimistic. I bought the Collector's Edition expecting to be absolutely hooked and held off playing for months until the anticipation got too great and I caved, only to find everything I liked about Mass effect was pretty much gone.
The interesting and engaging plot had just permeated into an incoherent mess that didn't tie in with the first game at all.
I really did try to like the game. I wanted to like it... I didn't
The original combination of real time and rpg incorporated elements had been removed from the game in favour of turning it into just another third person shooter.
The cover system was so broken, and you stick to fucking everything. Gears of war was executed better.
The inventory system... now while it was annoying in the first game to turn everything to gel, I still thought it was a good idea and with some tweaking, maybe having less upgrades but more customizability, it could have been good.
Instead they just gutted the entirety of it in favour of some moronic idea of collecting items involving scanning things. God help you if you missed one on a planet, you can't go back... EVER!

Then there's the scanning, the absence of the Mako (which was a GREAT idea, just poorly executed).
Anyway, I shall stop my rant, but suffice to say, it's shaping up that this one will possibly be even worse.

-Tabs<3-
I had a few qualms as well.

Why are the reapers so interested in humanity? Is it because of the "humans are special" trope or something? Do we bring some kind of dynamism that is either a really big threat or a really big advantage?

And why treat TIM like a pariah? He's one of the nicest sounding guys around and more importantly, seems to be the only competent person with power.

Also, the character integration isn't as good as it was in ME1. I get that Shepard died and everyone went their separate ways, but it seems like they could have had a few more party members sticking together or some kind of relationships from the old crew.
 

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Dragon Age 2, SW:TOR, and then Mass Effect 3 all in the same year? This time next year, Bioware will own my soul. Now, excuse me while I change my pants...
 

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VivaciousDeimos said:
philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
But it completely goes against what the Reapers are, creating quite a big contradiction of who they are. Just rubs me the wrong way is all.
Why would a full scale invasion go against what the reapers are? Sure, they're cold and calculatory, thus nuking would be expected. But what if this is how they harvest civilizations?
Humans have been the single greatest problem for them. It would be easier to just wipe them out, then get the rest of the Galaxy. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Again, I hope its for a good reason that isn't absurd, and we'll know more as time goes on. But I just don't know.
Maybe the Reapers are invading Earth just to demoralize the rest of the galaxy by showing that not even the Human race can stand up to them. Or its a trap for Shepard.
On top of that they're probably pissed that Shepard keeps killing their guys, so attacking Earth could also be something of a retaliatory strike. And while they certainly could use nukes, it's probably not as viscerally satisfying as squishing the puny humans with their...tentacle...claw...finger things.
They could be pulling off what the Convient did in Halo 3; dig up some ancient artifact hidden on earth to get the rest of their buddies in the milky way galaxy.

This thought just ran through my mind. What if the Reapers are doing the same thing to different galaxies? Sort of how farmers rotate crop fields as to not make the soil infertile? It is the Milky Ways turn to be harvest, but oh no, the pesky humans are making things difficult? Time to pull out the dynamite and DDT to wipe out these pest and recover as much of the crop as possible before all of it is ruined and before the Reapers starve to death.

How does that theory work?
 

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I'm disappointed by it. But I think it was cool seeing the reapers all land.

However....

This is a spoiler
How the hell did the Reapers get from Dark Space to Earth so quickly? I mean, they needed the Citadel to crush the species up to the Protheans (in a quick, shock and awe tactical strike) and also used their remnants as tools/back up plan to analyse the current state of the galaxy's sapient development.

I would have thought it would have taken a long long time for the Reapers to get to Earth.

Hopefully ME2 DLC will fill in the gaps between ME2 and ME3's continuity.
 

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Irridium said:
Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?
Because against reaper technology earth weapons are next to useless. Alos, they need organic or mechanical beings (or hybrids) to buld more of and maintain themselves.
 

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one thing that's popped to my head is OMGWTFBBQ GIANT WALKING COCKROACHES? then upon further inspection I realised these were reapers, oh... I thought.... wait aren't reapers supposed to be ships? another thing that popped to my head is where are the other alien races, 3 things could be possible,
1. they are there, as Earth is the front line of the war/last stronghold of citadel life
2. they aren't because they've been wiped out.
3. they aren't there becauswe they couldn't give a flying fuck about the human race after how you've treated them.
finally a question would be will I be able to play ME2 on the PS3 before ME3? I mean dear christ ME2 isn't even released yet on my platform and your already releasing trailers for the sequel, I've heard about shooting your advertising in the foot but this is more along the lines of nuking your legs from orbit.
 

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philosophicalbastard said:
Irridium said:
Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?
Because intercepting nukes or losing Earth the second the game starts isn't entertaining.
Also because the reapers want as many humans as possible to turn into husks.[/quote]


em was it just me remberd the end of mass effect 2 they need live humans to make more reapers
also just an opion but i think the strengh of the spices it came from determnes the repers streangh an sheeped killed 3 so far there for more live humans more reapers
 
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Warachia said:
Irridium said:
Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?
Because against reaper technology earth weapons are next to useless. Alos, they need organic or mechanical beings (or hybrids) to buld more of and maintain themselves.
But there's a whole galaxy full of those. It'd be easier to just finish off humans. Would make their job much easier. I think they'd be able to advance without humans.