-SPOILERS- why do people like the kotor series so much?

[Necromancer1991]

By today standards, yes they suck, but they laid the groundwork for Bioware as a company, not only that but the KotOR MMO looks promising

 

[Warped_Ghost]

KOTOR 2 was released before the gmae developers wanted it to be. If I remember correctly lucas wanted it out before they could deliver. The first part of the game was how good they game was supposed to be overall but rushing caused too many errors.

 

[Anarcho]

i thought the overall story of the first one was cool but it was just boring to play. the second one was by far my favorite and idk i just felt as if it was a better game on some levels.

and unfortunately it was never given the time needed to be created which is y its so cut and buggy, but its still my favorite.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

well it all depends, personally i love that kind of gameplay, i love the more strategic view of it rather than run in spaming the fuck out of clicking/hitting buttons like oblivion/fallout (not saying its bad, its just over used), and i think they did WAY better than george lucas did with the whole star wars lore, for its time, both kotor 1 and 2's stories filled me to the rim with nerdgasm's, and i've beaten both games about...40-50 times or so, so that tells you something about how much i do love them.


apples and oranges, people have opinions, while i dont think some people go into depth on why they like something, as long as they aren't portraying their opinions onto you in a elitist manner i dont think you should have to explain your love for something.


honestly, the story and characters will remembered for years to come as some major classics among star wars, especially HK, his style of dialogue...fucking epic.

a lot of people have mentioned hk. maybe i would have enjoyed it more if i had used him, but unless i was required to have a particular person in my party, it always consisted of me, juhani (or whatever her name is) and bastila or jolee. my logic was: force powers + lightsabers >blasters

i actually didnt think the game was strategic enough. maybe its because i was a guardian so except for using buffs before a tough fight, all i really had to do to win was spam expert flurry. i would have preferred an overhead view, like in baldurs gate or the original fallout games. that, by the way, is why i havent played fallout 3. im sure its a great game but it doesnt feel like part of the fallout series. the fallout series i know is an overhead turn based strategy rpg, not a fps/rpg hybrid

he isn't the greatest of powerful party members, but if you get dual wielding zabrak III pistols or fett pistols all upgraded,along with a few droid upgrades, and he has master rapid shot, him or carth will do some decent fucking damage in the background.

like you, i played pure jedi's (i mean its star wars..who the fuck doesn't use jedi's?!?!?) but i was a consular always so i "forcibly" downed my enemes (see what i did there?!)

while its not full strategic, its easy enough for a casual person to pick up but on hard mode it gives a semi challenge to it, which at its time the game wasn't trying to appeal to anyone hardcore, and bioware still doesn't really (which i dont mind all in all, as im not hardcore), and i still dont mind the third person view, but i did enjoy this game the year it came out, so i do have some nostalgic glasses on, but install some mods, try it out again playing opposite of what you did last time, and see if you enjoy it more perhaps?

(brotherhood of shadow(a.k.a. solomons revenge) is a good long mod that really adds to the game if you want to try that out. gives some more depth to revan as you were suggesting)

beyond that, and the couple mandalorian mods and a few other weapon/item mods, i can't suggest too more to maybe switch up the game a bit.. if you didn't like it then i suppose its not your kinda game really, i love the game but i will admit it does have some huge faults that i've grown attached to.

 

[gbemery]

i know im probably in the minority. i know of only one other person who hates kotor as much as i do but why does everyone love this game so much, besides that fact that it has star wars in the title? what am i missing?

Well, I've played both KOTOR's and I found them interesting but felt like they were really drawn out sometimes and the combat wasn't anything to go crazy over, but they were still fun in my opinion. Now on to a better topic. The title of this thread and main question behind it.

Instead of "why do people like the kotor series so much?" wouldn't a better question be, "why do people love making threads about why people love things I don't?", or "Why do people have different tastes and opinions then I?" or just "Why doesn't everyone just like what I like?"

Well the simple answer to them all is this, because people have minds different from your own. This causes symptoms such as differences in hobbies, interest, opinions and sometimes mild itching. The sooner you understand that the sooner you can move on and be happy with life. Trust me there is more interesting things out there then trying to understand why people do things.

 

[00slash00]

The game was not for you!

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If you didn't like a game, you didn't like a game. You don't see me making threads asking why people loved Halo so much. Or how people could play Fallout 3 more than a couple of times. Or why anyone even wants New Vegas when it's the same damned thing.

Everyone has their own likes and dislikes. What may be the greatest thing ever for one person may be utterly pointless for another.

I loved KOTOR. Haven't gotten 2 yet, so I can't judge it.
The combat was iffy, for me. I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. I also didn't go into the game expecting some revolutionary form of story telling. I went in expecting a good story. Nothing new and unique, just good. And I got exactly that. A good story.

i know im probably in the minority. i know of only one other person who hates kotor as much as i do but why does everyone love this game so much, besides that fact that it has star wars in the title? what am i missing?

Well, I've played both KOTOR's and I found them interesting but felt like they were really drawn out sometimes and the combat wasn't anything to go crazy over, but they were still fun in my opinion. Now on to a better topic. The title of this thread and main question behind it.

Instead of "why do people like the kotor series so much?" wouldn't a better question be, "why do people love making threads about why people love things I don't?", or "Why do people have different tastes and opinions then I?" or just "Why doesn't everyone just like what I like?"

Well the simple answer to them all is this, because people have minds different from your own. This causes symptoms such as differences in hobbies, interest, opinions and sometimes mild itching. The sooner you understand that the sooner you can move on and be happy with life. Trust me there is more interesting things out there then trying to understand why people do things.

no i get that but usually that creates groups of people. group a loved it, group b didnt like it, group c though it was ok, etc. based on everyone who talked about the game (before i ever played it), as well as the opinions of people who commented on this thread, suggests to me that there is pretty much only one group for kotor: people who loved the game. as i have said, i am not telling anyone they are wrong for liking the game or saying that the fact that i dislike it makes it bad game. i only posted this because it seems very strange to me that my opinion would differ from pretty much the entire gaming community.

the fact that the first few responses seemed confused by the idea that someone didnt like the game, i think, suggests that it is unusual. but you are right. as i have said, i worded this title and my question poorly. i should have hid my opinion of the game and if i had to ask anything, i should have simply asked what peoples favorite part of the game was or something. it would have avoided debate and would have likely given me insight to what i was missing. i thought starting off by stating my issue with it would provide for a better jumping off point but i was wrong. my bad. and i would have to be a masochist to ever even consider posting something like this again, so dont worry about that

 

[Woodsey]

im still excited for the old republic, but much less so now. based on the amount of bugs in kotor 2, im not entirely confident the old republic will work at all.

It's really not that hard:

Obsidian made KotOR 2, BioWare made 1 and are making ToR. How people get the 2 confused still is beyond me.

OT: KotOR is in my top 5 games of all time. The second was OK.

And the plot twist was just pure deliciousness.

 

[00slash00]

im still excited for the old republic, but much less so now. based on the amount of bugs in kotor 2, im not entirely confident the old republic will work at all.

It's really not that hard:

Obsidian made KotOR 2, BioWare made 1 and are making ToR. How people get the 2 confused still is beyond me.

OT: KotOR is in my top 5 games of all time. The second was OK.

And the plot twist was just pure deliciousness.

yea i didnt realize kotor 2 wasnt made by bioware, nor did i realize it was rushed out. given that i can forgive the bugs....well know i can understand why there are bugs but im still thoroughly pissed off about them since they are preventing me from being able to play the game. anyway, given this information im no longer worried about the old republic mmo. it seems like it will push mmorpgs forward. ever since wow, mmos seem to be afraid to try new things

someone mentioned a mod that goes further into the reven plot. maybe ill try that and maybe that will change my opinion of the game

 

[gbemery]

no i get that but usually that creates groups of people. group a loved it, group b didnt like it, group c though it was ok, etc. based on everyone who talked about the game (before i ever played it), as well as the opinions of people who commented on this thread, suggests to me that there is pretty much only one group for kotor: people who loved the game. as i have said, i am not telling anyone they are wrong for liking the game or saying that the fact that i dislike it makes it bad game. i only posted this because it seems very strange to me that my opinion would differ from pretty much the entire gaming community.

Yeah but you would expect that by just the law of averages that every now and then one will get a game, movie or book that a large group A likes. Then the people who really don't like it/hate it in group B is so small you would have to search long and hard for them. Then the other small group C the "meh" group will just out of sake of saving time say they like it or you would have to search just as equally hard for them. This would go for all three ways too. A game where the largest group hates it, and a group where the largest group is on the fence and can take it or leave it.