Spurious arguments and their causes

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electric discordian

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I have had a chance to think lately and I have come to the conclusion that I am without any from of egotism quite a clever bloke. However I find that I get illogical and begin to foam at the mouth at a mere mention of any discussion of Cars and the criticism of drivers. utilising spurious arguements I become a more militant version of Jeremy Clarkson spouting the most errant toss imaginably.

Some of my arguements amount to this example.

Wind Turbines are bad because once a year santa delivers presents and if he hits one of them buggers, reindeer burgers! Now anyone who is mentally deficient to think this is a great arguement will pat me on the back and buy me a beer everyone else will look at me like I have syphilis!

So my question is there an arguement which makes your brain stem disconnect from your spine? Something which removes all reason and makes you foam at the mouth like the most militant NRA member at a disarmament rally?

Hopefully this will lead to some interesting and revealing posts.
 

Downside

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Whenever my mate mentions that smoking weed isn't bad for him. Makes me go crazy and his argument completely invalid when he's sits in doors all day smoking and becoming a complete bore. That and the fact he is permantly skint even though he has a full time job and is alway borowing money from people (i had to lend him £20 the other day so he could buy food ffs!)
 

poleboy

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Pro-gun, anti-abortion and religious political arguments all transform me an into angry troll-man who communicates with grunts and clobberings. Then again, perhaps words are wasted on some people.
 

Labyrinth

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A few of the many..
"Spelling and grammar aren't important!"
"Abortion is murder!"
"You're going to hell for your homosexuality/bisexuality."
"I need guns for self defence."
"My family of 4 people need 8+ cars."
"You should wait until marriage to have sex."
"You should be loyal and obedient to your male spouse."
"[race/sexuality/gender/stereotype] should, without exception, be degraded."
Edit: I'm adding Creationism to the list.

While none of these cause a complete separation between body and brain, they do tend to warrant a fist-to-face reaction if, after several minutes of heated argument, the tactless Burke still clings to them.
 

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snowplow post=18.72733.771321 said:
poleboy post=18.72733.771311 said:
Pro-gun, anti-abortion and religious political arguments all transform me an into angry troll-man who communicates with grunts and clobberings. Then again, perhaps words are wasted on some people.
Whats wrong with guns and why do you enjoy killing babies?
You'll have to do better than that. The thing that really tickles my pickle are those 800-word rants about why God hates you for doing whatever is natural to you. Even worse, well-formulated seemingly intelligent human beings who write batshit crazy things (Creationism "professors" comes to mind...)
 

Reaperman Wompa

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Is Fable/KOTOR1/KOTOR2 the best game ever.


I told my friend to go fuck himself and stop being a faggoty retarded balltaster...as the principal walked past.
I really can't help it, I've tried but i can't not worship and defend these games no matter what.


I feel idiotic now :.(
 

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Labyrinth post=18.72733.771341 said:
A few of the many..
"Spelling and grammar aren't important!"
"Abortion is murder!"
"You're going to hell for your homosexuality/bisexuality."
"I need guns for self defence."
"My family of 4 people need 8+ cars."
"You should wait until marriage to have sex."
"You should be loyal and obedient to your male spouse."
"[race/sexuality/gender/stereotype] should, without exception, be degraded."
Edit: I'm adding Creationism to the list.

While none of these cause a complete separation between body and brain, they do tend to warrant a fist-to-face reaction if, after several minutes of heated argument, the tactless Burke still clings to them.

Yeah. Bloody people and their bloody opinions. The world would be a better place if we could just get rid of them.
 

Frybird

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There is no death penalty in germany. However, whenever there's a rapist (sp?), Child Molester or Murderer in the News, at least one of my friends states that this guy should be killed (for justice!).

When i argue about how two wrongs don't make a right and how the german judicial system is built around redemption rather than revenge, i usually just get answers along the lines of "But he rapes children!"

I don't know why i'm even trying...


Also, it's hard to argue against Harry Potter.

"I hate Harry Potter!"
"You only saw the Movies!"
"I saw the one with Gary Oldman, and the story was bad, the effects were bad, and even Oldman sucked in it!"
"You need to read the books!"
"I read half of the first one when it came out, but it was too childish and dumb for me to finish it"
"You need to read the whole book"
"I was 11 back then...if my childish self didn't like it, why should i bother now?"
"Because!!"

If you like Harry Potter...well, i've to live with it...but why do people try to convert me in such persistent ways?
 

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poleboy post=18.72733.771311 said:
Pro-gun, anti-abortion and religious political arguments all transform me an into angry troll-man who communicates with grunts and clobberings. Then again, perhaps words are wasted on some people.
This aren't so much arguments as positions.
 

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Labyrinth post=18.72733.771341 said:
A few of the many..
"Spelling and grammar aren't important!"
"Abortion is murder!"
"You're going to hell for your homosexuality/bisexuality."
"I need guns for self defence."
"My family of 4 people need 8+ cars."
"You should wait until marriage to have sex."
"You should be loyal and obedient to your male spouse."
"[race/sexuality/gender/stereotype] should, without exception, be degraded."
Edit: I'm adding Creationism to the list.

While none of these cause a complete separation between body and brain, they do tend to warrant a fist-to-face reaction if, after several minutes of heated argument, the tactless Burke still clings to them.
I second that.
 

electric discordian

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asamoah19 post=18.72733.771394 said:
Rapists and Child molestors should be chemically castrated.
An interesting and immotive point however is this something that makes you irrationally angry? So from reading this you percieve your own view that Rapists should be chemically castrated as a spurious arguement or you find others view that this should happen so wrong that it fills you with rage.

Both eventualities I find quite disturbing.
 

BasicMojo07

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"Games with better graphics are inherently superior."
The phrase "that's your opinion."
"Opera is boring."
"Heavy metal is just noise without musical merit."
 

MarcusStrout

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Whenever someone makes a rash comment and then says "Well, I'm just sayin'".

YOU ARE NOT JUST SAYING IT. You are trying to make a point while keeping it CASUAL, which doesn't EVER work, and using that as a prefunctory wall against any and all inveitable slag that is thrown at you.

Don't say it.

This message sponsored by Amp Energy and cocaine.
 

rossatdi

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"Superman is the worst superhero because he's so boring."

Slightly more spurious a subject than most but it's almost always mouthed by people who don't read any comics at all, or have never even tried a superman one. It's also normally based on the movies. It's practically cliché.

Simple fact being Big Blue is The superhero, and he deals with concepts around being too powerful when on full on mature comic mode, and for the kids he is the most morally incorruptible hero that is aimed at children.
 

asamoah19

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electric discordian post=18.72733.771402 said:
asamoah19 post=18.72733.771394 said:
Rapists and Child molestors should be chemically castrated.
An interesting and immotive point however is this something that makes you irrationally angry? So from reading this you percieve your own view that Rapists should be chemically castrated as a spurious arguement or you find others view that this should happen so wrong that it fills you with rage.

Both eventualities I find quite disturbing.
Yeah, was a touch short.

I shall elaborate and set your mind at ease, it was my instant and angry response to an earlier post and an argument I was having with my work mates whilst reading the thread.

so:

Kiddy fiddlers and rapists should be stop from ever being in a position where their sick deluded minds can hurt people, so using chemicals to take away their labido instead of jail, and letting them to the wrath and social backlash of their communities would eleviate prison overcrouding and the spiraling cost of running prisons in the UK.
 

Jaythulhu

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Incredibly poor spelling and misused or fake words (like proactive) will always get me into a fighting mood.

also, just for reference: there in the topic shoulda been their, and arguments doesn't have an e.
 

electric discordian

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Jaythulhu post=18.72733.784002 said:
Incredibly poor spelling and misused or fake words (like proactive) will always get me into a fighting mood.

also, just for reference: there in the topic shoulda been their, and arguments doesn't have an e.
Arguements does have an "e" if you English and their or there can be used if used in that case. As spurious arguements are not personifications. In a recent decision perhaps only in my university they decided that either their or there can be used when the thing being refered to is not a human being.

Yeah I may have just ranted in a topic I wrote about not ranting, oh the Ironing!