Oh, God, the additional dialogue in the second playthrough... heart... breaking...Kalezian said:
It out Spec Opsed Spec Ops before Spec Ops even started Spec Opsing.
Never has a game made me feel like such a dick.
Square Enix once more acknowledges the forbidden game: Drakengard 3 Confirmed
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It out Spec Opsed Spec Ops before Spec Ops even started Spec Opsing.
Never has a game made me feel like such a dick.
I only know of the first two Drakengard games by looking at TV Tropes and seeing an entry for the Dark Id's let's play of them. After reading/watching his playthroughs of them, I was really glad I didn't pick them up. The gameplay seemed really repetitive, and the story of the 2nd one was...quite lame to say the least. The first one though, that was some CRAZY stuff. Reminded me when I watched Neon Genesis Evangaleon for the first time...except I saw his let's play of it almost a year ago.
I mean, Nier was dark, depressing, and sad. But Drakengard 1 was like needlesly cruel, whose main character can almost be described as downright evil, caring about nothing save his next kill. Nier had funny moments though, and both its story and characters were likable (until things got really...murky towards the end). Not Drakengard. Drakengard is like that one cruel friend that you keep thinking will turn over a new leaf, only for him to come back and say, "You thought I was bad before? Well, **** you. Try this on!" And you stare. Maybe its confusion, maybe its because your mind just can't even comprehend what you are seeing before your eyes. Your friend doesn't care, neither does Drakengard 1, because you are along for the ride, whether you like it or not.
...
That's probably a SLIGHT exaggeration, but seriously, the first game is not your typical JRPG. I'm actually surprised that a game as grim as that was even made.
If Drakengard 3 is anything like Nier though (Great, GREAT game BTW), color me interested.
I mean, Nier was dark, depressing, and sad. But Drakengard 1 was like needlesly cruel, whose main character can almost be described as downright evil, caring about nothing save his next kill. Nier had funny moments though, and both its story and characters were likable (until things got really...murky towards the end). Not Drakengard. Drakengard is like that one cruel friend that you keep thinking will turn over a new leaf, only for him to come back and say, "You thought I was bad before? Well, **** you. Try this on!" And you stare. Maybe its confusion, maybe its because your mind just can't even comprehend what you are seeing before your eyes. Your friend doesn't care, neither does Drakengard 1, because you are along for the ride, whether you like it or not.
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That's probably a SLIGHT exaggeration, but seriously, the first game is not your typical JRPG. I'm actually surprised that a game as grim as that was even made.
If Drakengard 3 is anything like Nier though (Great, GREAT game BTW), color me interested.
That's why i love it so much. It just goes against almost everything that you'd expect to find in most JRPG's these days, although i will admit Nier did a much better job as a game then Drakengard did. Still, i love it for what it is: A dark, gruesome and unforgiving little adventure made by utter sadists.Xathos said:
eh, I liked the first one for just slaughtering things, wasn't the best combat to be sure, but hopping on a dragon and burning an army is still pretty cathartic.
the story and characters could go fuck them selves, as some one else said, most are as bad as Kratos the endings can do the same with some thing thick, sharp and rusty -.- especially the 'suddenly, FIGHTER JETS!' ending.
the story and characters could go fuck them selves, as some one else said, most are as bad as Kratos the endings can do the same with some thing thick, sharp and rusty -.- especially the 'suddenly, FIGHTER JETS!' ending.
Its the correct answer to what Square Enix would never do.Infernai said:
It is one of the worst games I've played published by Squeenix. It makes Drakengard look like FFVII by comparison. It was a third person shooter that just had too many flaws to be released.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/mindjack
Feel free to read and judge for yourself.
Wow, that IS surprising. Such a seemingly obscure IP. The first and second games were so vastly different in tone though. I can't imagine what they're going to do with this one or if I'll like it at all. I also found the combat to be a bit frustrating in both games, though better in the second one. It's risky making a difficult game, because it requires the mechanics to REALLY shine. I was much younger when I played both games, but I recall them being a bit frustrating for some reason or another.
What I am curious is how the brutal tone of the series will translate with a female protagonist. Not bashing the fact that she's a girl, mind. I'm just not sure how it's going to play out. I notice that a lot of anime and Japanese games seem to approach a "brutal" series with a female protag a bit differently. The main character seems to fit one of three molds: played out to be very powerful yet victims of themselves or their circumstances, collected yet borderline tsundre types, or over-the-top, maniacal lunatics (often with a sadistic streak). I realize that many male protags in mature material are generally similar as well, but I feel there tends to be more variety there. Her character design here has me thinking another tsundre type. I hope she ends up being more interesting and fitting well into a complex and mature plotline.
What I am curious is how the brutal tone of the series will translate with a female protagonist. Not bashing the fact that she's a girl, mind. I'm just not sure how it's going to play out. I notice that a lot of anime and Japanese games seem to approach a "brutal" series with a female protag a bit differently. The main character seems to fit one of three molds: played out to be very powerful yet victims of themselves or their circumstances, collected yet borderline tsundre types, or over-the-top, maniacal lunatics (often with a sadistic streak). I realize that many male protags in mature material are generally similar as well, but I feel there tends to be more variety there. Her character design here has me thinking another tsundre type. I hope she ends up being more interesting and fitting well into a complex and mature plotline.
Absolutely HATED Drakengard. I hammered at it for 6 hours but ultimately found the combat to be tiresome (square-square-square-TRIANGLE, move to next enemy, square-square-square-TRIANGLE. And this was when the game decided to be nice to you and not confuse your triangle finisher with a magic attack which may cause enemies to launch an anti-magic counter against you in the tiny finisher window), controls to be stiff, no one shut up (I thought with Caim being mute I would've been spared of it, but NOPE), and the environments so drab and boring. The dragon levels made me feel really hungry too, since they share a lot of the stiffness and the fun of being on a motherfucking dragon (voiced my Mona Marshall...euhh) couldn't save it. I ragequitted after being killed by an offscreen archer and lost all 40 minutes of progress on a mission. I'm genuinely surprised it's getting another game. Drakengard was pretty much my lesson that story can't always save a game if it's gameplay is boring. I'm sure I would've liked the story better as a movie, though with multiple endings I guess that complicates things.
A lot of my friends liked it (also liking Nier, a game I refuse to touch due to how I know it's links to Drakengard) and told me of the news Drakengard 3 was being worked on. But then again most of them like Final Fantasy 13, so I guess yay for them?
A lot of my friends liked it (also liking Nier, a game I refuse to touch due to how I know it's links to Drakengard) and told me of the news Drakengard 3 was being worked on. But then again most of them like Final Fantasy 13, so I guess yay for them?
Aw man, a whole page and a half before Dark Id's LP is mentioned.Xathos said:
Drakengard LP [http://lparchive.org/Drakengard/]
Drakengard 2 LP [http://lparchive.org/Drakengard-2/]
For everyone who hasn't seen these: they are amazing. I laughed. I cried. I lost ten pounds...mostly because I had to saw off one of my legs to keep myself from going insane.
That aside, Drakengard's grimdarkness didn't strike a chord with me. It seemed mostly like a 15-year-old kid trying to come up with 'mature' story ideas. "And there was this guy who killed people and then he met a dragon and they killed people and then he met a pedophile and they killed people and then they met a cannibal and they killed people..." and so on. Almost reminds me of Elfen Lied, both in its faux maturity and in its completely inability to resonate with me on any level, but now I've mixed anime into this thread so I should probably stop talking before I ruin things any further.
nier was a fantastic game, if you were wiling to play it through at east twice. its the only game where i truly felt i understood why the antagonists did what they did and understanding the wolf boss actually made me cry. i played drakkengard so i could better understand nier...or i tried to anyway. the game was so bad that i dont think i made it halfway before giving up and just resorting to wikipedia and youtube to fill in the blanks. give us more of nier, for get about drakkengard
Just thought I'd mention this, but I was looking around for some new images and found this
Now, is it just me, or does the blonde girl look a HELL of a lot like Manah?
How much you wanna bet that even in the past she fucks things up?
Now, is it just me, or does the blonde girl look a HELL of a lot like Manah?
How much you wanna bet that even in the past she fucks things up?
Given Manah's track record, it would not surprise me.Eternal_Lament said:Just thought I'd mention this, but I was looking around for some new images and found this
Now, is it just me, or does the blonde girl look a HELL of a lot like Manah?
How much you wanna bet that even in the past she fucks things up?
Also, did anyone else also notice that the sword used by Zero does bear a NOTABLE resemblance to Nowe's main sword?
considering her looks, she probably is manah mother or something (or its just an excuse so we can kick manah in the face after Drakengard 2), also i have high hopes that this game will include: hate for children, sexual abuse, genocide,violence galore, lots and lots of weapons with increasinly depressing stories, more children hate, children slaughter, the protagonist kicking children, awesomness, CAIM, and screwing childrens over.Infernai said:Given Manah's track record, it would not surprise me.Eternal_Lament said:Just thought I'd mention this, but I was looking around for some new images and found this
Now, is it just me, or does the blonde girl look a HELL of a lot like Manah?
How much you wanna bet that even in the past she fucks things up?
Also, did anyone else also notice that the sword used by Zero does bear a NOTABLE resemblance to Nowe's main sword?
Hooray, more pedophile characters!
Everybody loves those! Why, what do you mean Drakengard isn't about and doesn't have anything to do with that? I was told that Drakengard was created for the soul purpose of creating Leonard.
But really, I'm very happy that Square Enix is giving some franchises some love other than Final Fantasy.
I'd really like to see Chrono and Secret of Mana make a comeback. Among other franchises.
Everybody loves those! Why, what do you mean Drakengard isn't about and doesn't have anything to do with that? I was told that Drakengard was created for the soul purpose of creating Leonard.
But really, I'm very happy that Square Enix is giving some franchises some love other than Final Fantasy.
I'd really like to see Chrono and Secret of Mana make a comeback. Among other franchises.
Well, when I was really looking for a game with mountable dragons in the PS2 era I stumbled upon the title and found that it had a sequel. I was totally gonna buy but not without looking at reviews and stuff first. X-play (back when it was awesome) pretty much said save my money unless I'm stuck on a deserted island with a power source, a working television, a PS2 and this game if I don't particularly care about my sanity because of its repetitiveness. Not exactly something I would wanna get after that.
Is this third installment gonna be something that people will actually want to play?
Is this third installment gonna be something that people will actually want to play?