Star Wars Battlefront: UPDATE 2: The Missing Content Strikes Back.

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Happiness Assassin

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Flammablezeus said:
Do you realise you could land in the enemy capital ships? I loved doing that in space battles and taking down their ship's systems from the inside, before stealing one of their ships and shooting a bunch of them as I flew out to join back in with the dogfighting.
Yeah and it was still the least interesting part of the game. Keep in mind I played entirely with bots, so allied and enemy AI were what kept me from enjoying it for the most part, so maybe it was better with MP. I couldn't coordinate allies to board properly and the enemies practically ignored boarding parties. Now the All-Hero Battle Royale in Mos Eisley... I fucking love that shit.
 

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I felt the space battles were awkwardly handled in Battlefront 2. The best part of them was the dogfighting, but that never really contributed to the battle.
 

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Was gonna buy it.

Probably not now. I just don't get multiplayer games because not enough people play them near me and my internet is too bad for international connections.

Plus they dropped the Droids, so the game just got less varied.
And only 4 maps. Instead of 20?
No space fights?
No single player.

Are we just playing Battlefield: Advanced Warfare in Star Wars?

Not interested now. Shame.
 

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No space battles.

No classes.

No Federation/Republic.

4 planets.

No galactic conquest (because there are only 4 bloody planets).

FPS specialisation with TPS an afterthought.

AT-AT only available as on-rails.

This isn't Star Wars Battlefront. It has less of everything that made the original two so great. They have gone backwards in terms of freedom and content. For shame.
 

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I've said it in my head when I heard it announced, now it is revealed I'll says it on the Internet:

No galactic conquest, no buy. And without space battles, prospects of galactic conquest is low.

No buy until I see otherwise. I already have battlefield.

Dunno what they were thinking, EA people just out of touch? Why make a new console generation and than have less content than what a game made in 2002 had?
 

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If I wanted to play a planetary based shooter I would play any iteration Call of Duty or Battlefield. Battlefront 2 gave us an awesome version of space combat. Dice could have been awesome and perfected it but instead they chose to not even try. Dice could have created something fantastic but instead all they did was kill my interest in this game. Thanks Dice, thanks a lot.
 

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Damn, it seems like EA really wants that golden poo this year! Aren't they also axing one of their 2014-sports games so as to get people to buy this years update?

Anyway, Battlefront...I still haven't seen actual gameplay of this thing but everything else I've heard about it just makes me want to get back into the second game again. Great job EA, you've done it again! I look forward to reading about Dice being shut down around March or so when this game hasn't sold 2 million copies and the MP died after MLK-day 2K16.
 

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Wow, two whole factions.

...4 planets.

....8 maps, maybe.

No word on space battles or Galactic Conquest (the best parts of the game).

Good job Dice, this is clearly how you make a sequel/reboot.
 

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I was interested, cautiously optimistic, but now I'm utterly dejected. Serves me right for getting my hopes up in regards to an EA game.

Maybe I'll go back and play some campaign space battles in BF 2, you know, those two things that're apparently too difficult to do in 2015.

*Sigh...*
 

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lax4life said:
There's no reason to be happy.
The more disappointed you or anyone else gets the stronger I become. This entire thread was made to fuel my power.
 

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wait I can't play as a Droidekas? but that was the best part.

Rip. Droidekas
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seriously though removing the Droid and the classes for that matter seems really dumb because if you remove all the advanced weaponry and variety between the factions it's just Battlefield in space.

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Dalek Caan said:
lax4life said:
There's no reason to be happy.
The more disappointed you or anyone else gets the stronger I become. This entire thread was made to fuel my power.
I don't understand why that woul...

[come to the realization]

oh my god you're a Dalek!! I should have known!! I must warn the others!!
 

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Hmmm...

Everything that is currently missing?

DLC for sure. Prequels? DLC. Space battles? DLC. New maps/modes? DLC.

The only good thing concerning DLC and Battlefront right now is that the Force Awakens DLC will be free.
 

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Oh well. Guess I'll just watch this one last time to remind myself of the Battlefront we all actually wanted, then put Battlefront out of my mind forever. Goodnight, sweet prince. (And I'm talking about Pandemic and Free Radical here)

Watching that made me sad. :(

Seriously, what the fuck?! The release date was JUST FUCKING ANNOUNCED and they're already making me NOT want to get this game.
 

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Mutant1988 said:
I had only a few requirements:

Splitscreen and LAN. Because EA servers are literally the devil.

But they're not even going to have singleplayer?

Okay, never mind then - I'm never buying this game.
But... The article says there will be splitscreen?
 
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I played Battlefront II and enjoyed that game so much! I loved Galactic Conquest and the Space Battles. When my uncle offered me a modded Xbox I should have accepted. Ah, regrets. ;( This game has officially turned me off with no space battles. This game already seems to be a train wreck. No campaign, no space battles, and what I'm assuming to be just 4 maps. Even for a multiplayer-centric game this is just crappy. I don't think there's anything they can do to get me interested again. I'll just get an Xbox from my uncle and play Battlefront II again.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Mutant1988 said:
I had only a few requirements:

Splitscreen and LAN. Because EA servers are literally the devil.

But they're not even going to have singleplayer?

Okay, never mind then - I'm never buying this game.
But... The article says there will be splitscreen?
What about LAN? Because that's a pretty important part in keeping the game playable past EA discontinuing their horrible servers.

Still, if there's no singleplayer of any kind, I don't think I want the game at all. I'm not a competitive multiplayer person, I just want to be able to have a lot of players playing versus bots. Or at the very least 2, so I can play it with my best friend in person rather than over EAs lackluster servers.

Did I mention that I hate EA's servers? I do. A lot.
 

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*Sigh* Of course. Right after they actually get me excited for The Force Awakens, they have to ruin my enthusiasm by confirming my fears that EA would royally screw up Battlefront. Granted, we still haven't been able to play a demo or even see gameplay footage; but with all the info given out at this point, I can safely say this is going to be a very disappointing return to Battlefront for me, for multiple reasons.


1. Lack of the "Clone Wars":
Despite the prequels' flaws, they did have some pretty epic battles. Battlefront 1 and 2 really took advantage of this and gave us some very fun maps based on those battles and other prequel locations. Not to mention the great vehicles and weapons that came with them. But even so, If this was the only major flaw of EA's Battlefront I wouldn't really mind it. While the "Clone Wars" has many incredible things to lend to a Battlefront game, I think the "Galactic Civil War" has enough material to fill a Battlefront game, Especially if it gets all the attention. Focusing solely on the GCW could have really allowed the developers to explore the vast possibilities of the Rebel and Empire's activities during the war. They could have expanded on what we saw in the movies by taking us to new planets, showing us new (Or even better, using old Expanded Universe) weapons and vehicles, and maybe even exploring the differing tactics of the Rebels and Empire in something like Galactic Conquest mode; all while including the classic battles from the movies of course. So basically, I wasn't too concerned about the exclusion of the "Clone Wars" if that allowed them to do the "Galactic Civil War" really well. Unfortunately, it's looking like they didn't, AT ALL!


2. Lack of Space Battles:
While the space battles in Battlefront 2 weren't perfect, I think they helped distance it from being just a Battlefield clone and helped make it really feel like a Star Wars game. I mean come on, the space battles are a big part of what makes Star Wars so awesome. I was really thinking that they were going to make that whole 'seamless space to ground fights' from the leaked Battlefront 3 footage happen; but even if they didn't go quite that far, I was sure that they were at least going to improve on the space combat system from Battlefront 2. I was thinking that they were going to improve the dogfighting, have multiple capital ships, and expand on the whole boarding party aspect of the Battlefront 2 gamemode. I was really looking forward to an epic Battle Over Endor and Battle of Yavin V. But alas, they shot themselves in the foot and completely got rid of them. Sure they will have ship dogfights above the ground battles, (Which was something that really needed to come back, even without the space to ground transitions) but as I said before, Space battles are a big part of Star Wars. Considering DICE's older work I was sure that they would come up with some new and interesting gamemodes to make space battles very fun. They could have had a Blockade running gamemode, or one where you have to capture an imperial cargo convoy, or board a space station, or simply an all out brawl between two armadas. Maybe i'm expecting too much, but I just can't imagine why they decided ignore space battles completely.


3. 4 Planets:
Now I know that there are going to be multiple maps for each planet, but Seriously? 4 Planets? When I first saw this I was certain that they were simply stating that these 4 were just the ones they were going to reveal for now and more would be shown later, but from those tweets it seems like they are saying that Endor, Tatooine, Sullust, Hoth, and ultimately Jakku are the only planets available. WHAT!?! You have the Star Wars galaxy, a galaxy so expansive and filled with so many interesting planets, and you use only 4!? Now, I understand that it is very likely that they were pushed for time and couldn't make tons of different and unique maps but... 4!? I don't feel like I should blame DICE for this as I'm almost certain that EA rushed them to make sure this game came out around the time of The Force Awakens, so all my rage and bewilderment about a Battlefront game only having 4 different planets will be solely directed to EA.


4. Single player 'Missions'
We haven't heard too much about these 'Missions' but from the tweets it sounds to me like they are going to be like the Battlefield 3 and 4 single player and coop modes... Which Sucked! If Battlefield 3 and 4 are anything to go by, DICE is not very good at making COD-esque linear singeplayer campaign modes. I'm not really certain why they insist on including them in the first place. The reason people buy their Battlefield games and the Battlefront games is so they can fight in this big open map with tons of cool vehicles and weapons that they can use how they see fit. Dragging them along a linear, heavily scripted path just doesn't seem to fit in with what the Battlefield and Battlefront games are about. In my opinion, if you feel like you must have a campaign mode, make it similar to Battlefront 2 or even Battlefield 1942's campaign modes. Have the player play through a series of the multiplayer maps with different objectives that progress through a story. That way it is closer to the core gameplay of the game and you can still appease the campaign gods. (I can only assume that is why you insist on cramming a campaign in to all your recent FPS titles.) Speaking of singleplayer...


5. Bots.
Let's face it, People suck. Sometimes you will be playing an online FPS game, having a good time when suddenly... That guy joins. You know who I am talking about, that guy who is practically eating his microphone and just won't shut up, or the guy who is complaining so much about how his team sucks that he isn't actually helping them out, or maybe the guy who you just killed that is convinced that the only way you could have possibly killed him is because you are hacking, or of course that guy who actually IS hacking. Simply put, sometimes you just feel like playing the game without dealing with People, or perhaps you want to play the game somewhere where you don't have WiFi, or maybe you just want to practice or learn the game before you get into an online match. And then of course there is my favorite, Feeling like your'e actually good at the game by fighting a bunch of bots set on the easiest difficulty. The point is, It's nice to be able to play singleplayer on the multiplayer maps against bots. I've spent hundreds of hours fighting bots alone or with a friend through LAN on Battlefront 1 and 2 and the older Battlefield games. Some people don't see the point or challenge in playing against brainless bots, but I find it to be a very nice touch. Especially when SOME COMPANIES decide to shut down the multiplayer servers of their older and ACTUALLY GOOD games.


6. Other Potential Gripes:
These are some things from the tweets that We don't really know anything about but sound very concerning to me. First, the "Powerups" he mentions. I literally know absolutely nothing about these except that the shield from the trailer is one of them, but just the name "Powerups" doesn't sit well with me. I don't know why, but I have a bad feeling about this. Next, the whole unlock, achieve and collect thing. It sounds very much like the unlocks and useless achievement stuff from battlefield 3 and 4 (Which would make sense due to the fact that Battlefront will be on Battlelog) which I for one absolutely hated. I just never really cared for the way you had to unlock everything in the newer Battlefield games and I especially didn't like the "Battlepack" things, Though having a larger variety of Star Wars guns would be rather cool. And Lastly, the AT-AT on rails that I heard about from people who played the demo. One thing I really loved about the older Battlefront games is how you were in full control of the AT-AT. That feeling of being a giant, nearly indestructible, four legged death machine was immensely satisfying. Now Iv'e heard that you can command an AT-AT, so I am hoping that means you have full control over it on the large maps, and the on rails AT-AT is just for that certain gamemode.

TLDR:
Basically, from all the info we have heard about this game, It just doesn't sound like a Battlefront game to me. When I first heard DICE was going to make the new Battlefront I was rather excited. After all, I loved Battlefield 1942-2142 and the old Battlefront games and I thought DICE should be able to make a great game using their knowledge from the Battlefield series and incorporating the elements from the original Battlefronts, But then I remembered Battlefield 3 and 4 and how much I hated them. I started fearing that they would turn Battlefront into the equivalent of a Battlefield 4 DLC and based on alot of this info, I think that's precisely what they did. In my opinion, they turned Battlefront into Battlefield 4:Star Warfare (which Ironically doesn't take place in the stars). They didn't even even make it a copy of a good Battlefield game! Heck, if I wanted to play Battlefield with a Star Wars skin, I would play the Free BF2142 mod First Strike http://fsmod.com/ (That is I would have if SOME COMPANY!!! didn't ruin it by shutting down the SERVERS!)!!!

*sigh* To be honest, This game Might not even be that bad. It could even be really good. But the thing is, it is not going to be the Battlefront game alot of us wanted. DICE said that this isn't going to be a sequel to Battlefront 2. They said that this is going to be a reboot, this is going to be their Battlefront. Unfortunately, DICE making Battlefront theirs means that we are going to loose many of the tings form the original Battlefronts. Sadly, I don't think that we will ever get the Battlefront 3 that so many of us wanted.

*Edit* WOW! That turned out to be a huge wall of text. *edit*