Star Wars, Lightsabers, and submachine guns

Recommended Videos

Genocidicles

New member
Sep 13, 2012
1,747
0
0
I'm not sure if anyones mentioned them or not, but there are disruptors, a kind of blaster that fires projectiles. I'm not sure if there in any of the movies, but you can get some in KOTOR 1&2.

I reckon they must be in the movies, as I read about them in my dad's encyclopedia of Star Wars weaponry (if there is a nerdier book out there, I haven't seen it).
 

Thaluikhain

Elite Member
Legacy
Jan 16, 2010
19,538
4,128
118
DJjaffacake said:
Forgive me if this has already been posted, but lasers go in a straight line. Bullets, outside of vidya games, do not. Therefore it stands to reason that laser weapons are much easier to use, in addition to all the other reasons already given.
That's an important, if often overlooked fact. Lasers travel in a straight line (IIRC, a straight line is defined as the path a laser beam will take, though that's probably in a vacuum).

If your sights are properly aligned, if you have the target in your sights when you pull the trigger, you've hit the target. You'd get some problems with atmospheric conditions, the laser might discharge into rain or fog in a way a bullet would not.

However, the stuff blasters fire can be soon moving with the naked eye, and thus can't be lasers.

...

Hey, that's a thought, even if the Jedi can block lasers the way they can with absurdly slow moving stuff, they can't block more that the width of their lightsaber. If the laser's focus isn't that tight where they block it, part of the beam will travel around the light saber. You'd get less intensity, as you'd have a lightsabre shaped shadow in the beam, and maybe you want a tight beam to do any damage anyway, though.
 

templar1138a

New member
Dec 1, 2010
894
0
0
Your argument has already been invalidated multiple times, but have a source.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slugthrower
 
Aug 31, 2012
1,774
0
0
templar1138a said:
Your argument has already been invalidated multiple times, but have a source.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slugthrower
"For example, during the days of the Galactic Republic, mercenaries fearing an intervention by Jedi Knights used rapid-fire slugthrowers that were impossible to completely deflect, unlike blaster bolts."

Looks like that actually validates his argument.

edit: Ok, I guess you were answering the "why does nobody use" aspect, with "actually, they do". My mistake, carry on.
 

launchpadmcqwak

New member
Dec 6, 2011
449
0
0
wackymon said:
So, I have just one small thing that really bugged me about the star wars series...
Why is it always plasma weapons or lightsabers (Which can reflect Blaster Fire), and never, oh, lets say... Ballistic weapons, like a Submachine gun!? I mean, honestly, it seems to make sense, and it'll probably go faster then Blaster Fire it'll probably fire more then Blasters, leaving no time to respond, and can't be blocked! Why the hell does nobody REALIZE that!?

Just something that really bugged me.
BECAUSE THAT MOVIE WOULD SUCK!
 

Mr F.

New member
Jul 11, 2012
614
0
0
Tombsite said:
I could try to come up with a in-universe explanation but why try?

The answer is and will always be: because it is cool and having the good guys die because of a weapon we have in our world is boring. Same reason they use fighters, big ass space stations and blaster canons with shorter range than modern missiles.


see also: Harry Potter and sniper rifles.

Real question is: Why do you want to ruin the fun? :p
Yep, that is it.

You hit the nail on the head.

Most films require the willful suspension of disbelief. Most books require the willful suspension of disbelief.

That is just how things go. Yes, sometimes its harder then others. When you realise things like 'The Black Watch circa 1916 would be able to massacre an entire army that qualified at the Imperial Stormtrooper Academy' for example (Rifles accurate at range, projetiles that can travel faster then the human eye can follow, unlike blasters, plus the Stormtroopers wearing armour thin enough to be pierced by arrows). Or when you give a moments thought to the batshit stupid melee charge in Batman Rises (You know which one I mean).

But you just need to.

Yes, wands are less effective then guns. Yes, the HP universe makes no sense whatsoever. I mean, Voldemorte kills muggles constantly. Its what he does. Its stated that the PM knows about the existence of wizards. Yet the SAS are never called in.

For that matter wizards from other countries are underrepresented. My sister and I had a long conversation about the Wizard equivalent of the UN appearing to stop voldemorte.

You know, a bunch of idiots with blue hats and wands that can only stun. It was a fun conversation.

tldr;
The willful suspension of disbelief. That is why there are no SMG's in Starwars. That is why the Rebels won. That is why there are no nukes. That is why the Empire fights without any form of game plan. That is why Voldemorte is not shot by the SAS. That is why that stupid melee charge in the new Batman film ended with victory and not slaughter. That is why *insert game character* overcomes *insert insurmountable odds*. That is why despite a total lack of shields and, in many cases, any form of body armour nobody in LOTR dies unless it is dramatically neccesary despite teh COLLOSAL AMOUNT OF ARROWS THAT ARE FIRED AT THEM.

The willful suspension of disbelief. It has a lot to answer for.
 

Eclectic Dreck

New member
Sep 3, 2008
6,662
0
0
DoPo said:
I just assumed whatever they used to fuel the guns would be charged up again, so they wouldn't need that many extra "clips" to go around. Dunno, two or three per person seems logical, and they need those same two-three for the entire time they would serve in the military. As opposed to going through rounds and magazines all the time. Way less space and hassle required to transport laser weapons.
This is really the problem - the Star Wars universe offers no real information on blasters, at least in the movies. Questions of logistics are impossible to answer when we have no information on things like how heavy the weapons are, the difficulty of production of weapons and ammunition, how ammunition is handled and the like. As such, any attempt to demonstrate their superiority on these grounds is impossible. Moreover, any data that does exist is useless due to the aforementioned use of numbers that are insane. In the star wars universe, light fighter weaponry is a weapon of mass destruction and yet a demonstration of the power of these weapons always falls far short of what we are told about them. Turbolaser batteries are often in the gigawatt range and deliver more energy in a pulse than the total power grid of the modern world can provide in that span of time yet small vessels can often shrug off a hit or two. This ignores that that energy delivery is so enormous that anything hit is subjected to forces normally found in the heart of stars.

Thus, any attempt to demonstrate the superiority of such things is pointless. They rely on magic with no basis in reality. They are obviously going to be superior. When light structures can withstand being bombarded with energy sufficient to induce nuclear fusion with little more than a small char mark the notion of using bullets seems rather quaint. Yet, paradoxically, the Star Wars universe uses projectile weapons that are inferior to energy weapons by orders of magnitude to great effect. Thus we have a contradiction inherent in the fiction such that projectiles are both vastly inferior and yet superior simultaneously.

DoPo said:
Let me put it this way - with the abundance of battle droids that are used in warfare in the Star Wars universe, would you want to go there and shoot tiny holes in them? That's if you get to penetrate their exterior. Or would you rather go for a weapon that can burn a hole in metal?
A blaster fires bursts of particles, effectively meaning they are little more than "hot" bullets. Blaster weaponry offers no obvious advantage over firearms as secondary effects of such a weapon are at best similar to the secondary effects of a number of modern weapon systems. High Explosive Anti-Tank rounds often rely on plasma as the final kill mechanism for example and yet there exist plenty of weapons systems that are expected to engage equally heavy armor systems that rely purely on chunks of heavy metal being propelled by an explosion.

To put this in another way, commonly available armor piercing weapon systems that can be carried and fired by people can penetrate greater than a quarter inch of steel. Heavier weapons can do far more damage. Heavy Machine Guns and anti-material weapons can often penetrate greater than an inch of armor plate and these weapons are entirely man portable. There are dozens of light anti-armor weapons in use around the world that can defeat several inches of armor. Given that battle droids rely on relatively light armor systems and further considering that blasters also rely upon kinetic energy to deal most of their damage it is reasonably safe to say that there exist plenty of projectile options that are perfectly capable of dealing equivalent damage to such a platform.

The only place I see problems is that there are simply weapons in the star wars universe that are obviously superior. The weapon system used by the Republic Commando in one of the Old Republic Trailers is roughly equivalent to modern grenade machine guns yet is light enough to be carried by a single man. The equivalent modern weapon is man portable but still requires being placed in a fixed position to employ.

DoPo said:
One can assume that they moved past the need to protect from kinetic projectiles. It's, after all, another technology hundreds of years old. Also - robots.
As I said above, there is no indication that infantry weapons in the star wars universe offer any real advantage over firearms. It is only in special cases of heavy weapons that we see the superiority of blasters as we often see heavy weapons being deployed in a light enough package to be used by a single infantry soldier on the move.

DoPo said:
They take up more space than the ammunition you'd need for laser weapons.
Again, there is no indication that this is true within the movies or the games and I'm not particularly willing to dig through various technical sourcebooks for information.

DoPo said:
Planets with different gravity would have a different bullet drop, bullets are they are also affected by wind. Put simply - the same weapon would have vastly different performance depending on the environment. As opposed to point and shoot and your shot going only ever straight.
Blasters would be affected by all of that plus you'd have to take into account magnetic fields. They do fire masses of charged particles after all - thus why they can be deflected by a light sabre.

DoPo said:
Mass Effect has projectiles going at relativistic speeds. Star Wars (as far as I know) doesn't have that technology. Funnily, lasers shots move even slower. Normal everyday ammo which we have would generally be either be made to go through armour or not be very effective against it.
Kinetic Energy is an easy quantity to calculate: it is equivalent to .5*mass*velocity^2. The existence of heavy blasters indicates they are familiar with using magnetic fields to propel projectiles meaning the use of heavy ferrous slugs in high caliber weapon systems is perfectly possible. Consider, for example, the mass drivers used by various ships in Empire at War - capital ships essentially use the same weapons systems found on Mass Effect Dreadnoughts.

DoPo said:
Given the wide variety of species present, one would assume that some types of bullets would kill some of them even faster, or, maybe not do much damage to them. As opposed to point and shoot. I'd assume that the Star Wars rifles have some sort of dial or something to adjust the force of the shot - at least I would have made one, so you'll be able to use the weapon in more circumstances.
If you simply mean that a light rifle round, say a 5.56x45 NATO would be relatively ineffective against something massive like a rancor, then you'd be right. Of course, the same is true of equivalent blaster weapons so there does not seem to be any advantage. A light blaster weapon and a light bullet weapon seem to have similar shortfalls. We don't often see Republic Troops taking out AT-AT's with personal weapons for example much the same as we don't see many soldiers take down Main Battle Tanks with rifle fire.

I suppose the point is simply this: yes, projectiles have shortcomings. But in the Star Wars universe, those are not often terribly significant given that the blaster weapons favored have similar failings. It is only in the case of heavy weaponry that we see any demonstration of superiority over modern weapon systems as it seems it is possible to lighten the very heavy end of man-portable weapons sufficiently that they can be employed by a single soldier outside of a fixed position. Yet even in this case, the overwhelming popularity of personal deflector shielding is such that simple kinetic projectiles would often be superior since they are notable not affected by the technology. On foot then it becomes a question of situation - without enormous improvements not obvious to observation in games or movies, blasters do not offer any particular advantage outside of heavy man-portable weapons. Larger weapon systems found on ships on the other hand confer tremendous advantage to the turbo-laser and proton-torpedo yet the existence and brutal effectiveness of mass drivers when properly employed introduces contradiction such that it is again difficult to determine where the energy weapon offers advantage.
 

DustyDrB

Made of ticky tacky
Jan 19, 2010
8,365
3
43
How has no one posted this clip yet? Gather 'round and learn, everyone!
 

EHKOS

Madness to my Methods
Feb 28, 2010
4,815
0
0
Did you see what Qui Gon's lightsaber did to that blast door? That's why, metal is no better than blaster fire.
 

Zipa

batlh bIHeghjaj.
Dec 19, 2010
1,489
0
0
Wait... since when did sub machine guns not exist in star wars?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster_carbine
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/E-11_carbine
 

spartan231490

New member
Jan 14, 2010
5,186
0
0
wackymon said:
OhJohnNo said:
'cos the Jedi would just catch them with his overpowered telekinesis and throw 'em all back at you, which he can't do with the non-solid blaster bolts.
Yeah, human reaction time is not that fast.
So, once more, WHY ARE THERE NOT AS MANY BULLETS!
Jedi's have precognition. It's not human reaction time, it's jedi reaction time, which is fast enough. This has been said.
guitarsniper said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
OhJohnNo said:
'cos the Jedi would just catch them with his overpowered telekinesis and throw 'em all back at you, which he can't do with the non-solid blaster bolts.
Also, Jedi don't block blaster bolts because they can react to the shots. They block them because they can see a fraction of a second into the future and tell where the shot will be before the trigger is even pulled.

Besides, there's plenty of sci-fi that uses slug throwers -- even Star Wars has a few examples in the EU. It's just in the higher technology settings, the energy weapons have some sort of advantage -- usually more destructive power, frequently fewer problems with things like ammunition and weight. In the lower technology settings, they're usually quite common. Look at Gundam, Battletech, Firefly, the Battlestar Galactica reboot -- all of them have primarily gunpowder and bullet based hand weapons, despite most of them having energy weapons at the vehicle level. For that matter, the Stargate franchise is full of situations where humans with modern guns triumph over aliens with energy weapons, especially in the movie and the early seasons of SG-1.
I remember a bit in SG1 where the humans are delivering guns to a bunch of Jaffa resistance, and O'neill makes a point about a P90 being a weapon of war, while a DE weapon was a weapon of terror. can't find a youtube clip or i'd post it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ps9iMH1N4
It's towards the end, around 2:50
However, it's not entirely accurate. The staff only needs one or two hits to kill a jaffa or even a goauld, a whole p90 clip might not do the trick. Also, that's specifically about the staff weapon, it's not an indictment of all energy weapons. Look at the asgard beam weapons.
wackymon said:
Siege_TF said:
"... a lightsaber could just vaporize what few bullets would find their mark even if the Jedi didn't feel like reflecting them."
Alright, this is just minorly annoying, but I'll just quote This article [http://what-if.xkcd.com/16/], basically replacing lightning with lightsaber:
What would happen if lightning A lightsaber struck a bullet in midair?
The bullet won't affect the path the lightning takes. You'd have somehow to time the shot so the bullet was in the middle of the bolt when the return stroke happened.
The core of a lightning bolt is a few centimeters in diameter. A bullet fired from an AK-47 is about 26 mm long and moves at about 700 millimeters every millisecond.
The bullet has a copper coating over a lead core. Copper is a fantastically good conductor of electricity, and much of the 20,000 amps could easily take a shortcut through the bullet.

Surprisingly, the bullet handles it pretty well. If it were sitting still, the current would quickly heat and melt the metal. But it?s moving along so quickly that it exits the channel before it can be warmed by more than a few degrees. It continues on to its target relatively unaffected. There are some curious electromagnetic forces created by the magnetic field around the bolt and the current flow through the bullet, but none of the ones I examined changed the overall picture very much.
So, deflecting it isn't all that much of an option, so... Yeah, Ballistic Gunslinger against Jedi, gunslinger would win, because lightning bolts are basically bolts of plasma. So, I suppose against Jedi, it's the most valuable weapon... I suppose it wouldn't be as useful to anything else.
A lightsaber is not a lightning bolt. Lightning bolt is electrical, lightsaber is plasma-based. Electrical vs heat, and the lightsaber is hot enough to cut through virtually anything, including several feet of blast door in just a few seconds(phantom menace), this is easily hot enough to vaporize a bullet in the time it takes for the bullet to pass through the plasma beam.
 

RandV80

New member
Oct 1, 2009
1,507
0
0
Joccaren said:
Also, the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy

Even bullet guns wouldn't help when they can't aim, and the ammo requirements would just make things worse.
It's kind of funny and a bit ironic, but despite being a mainstay icon 80's action hero that helped start this kind of silly combat there's one entry missing from the movies in that Wiki list: Rambo. If you actually pay attention to the combat in the movies, Rambo actually fights a lot like JC Denton in Deus Ex, utilizing both stealth and of cover, with only the occasional exception.

Anyways, for the Star Wars topic. One of the benefits of the blaster is it doesn't seem to have a recoil. So couldn't you make an intentionally large gun with a bigger blaster shot for killing Jedi's? Blaster shots are always conveniently roughly the same size or smaller than a light saber. So what would happen if you made the shot bigger than the light saber?

This is especially true in the prequel trilogy where you have Jedi's being common place on one side and killer death droids who could carry larger weaponry than a human trooper. The shielded gatling gun robots are a good idea, but instead of gatling gun blaster why not a bazooka blaster?
 

Thaluikhain

Elite Member
Legacy
Jan 16, 2010
19,538
4,128
118
spartan231490 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ps9iMH1N4
It's towards the end, around 2:50
However, it's not entirely accurate. The staff only needs one or two hits to kill a jaffa or even a goauld, a whole p90 clip might not do the trick. Also, that's specifically about the staff weapon, it's not an indictment of all energy weapons. Look at the asgard beam weapons.
Magazine. Also, depends on the writer and how big a character the target is.

Early on, jaffa armour gave very good protection against sustained M16 fire. Later on, they'd become less scary, and the same armour was easily penetrated by pistol calibre bullets from MP5s and pistols.
 

Darknacht

New member
May 13, 2009
849
0
0
In Star Wars even the most basic armor can render slugthrowers useless and they are very bulky, inaccurate, and expensive and blasters are cheap, light, accurate and far more powerful.
One thing to remember is that Star Wars physics is not the same as our physics so you can't assume our tech would work the same as it does here.
 

spartan231490

New member
Jan 14, 2010
5,186
0
0
thaluikhain said:
spartan231490 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ps9iMH1N4
It's towards the end, around 2:50
However, it's not entirely accurate. The staff only needs one or two hits to kill a jaffa or even a goauld, a whole p90 clip might not do the trick. Also, that's specifically about the staff weapon, it's not an indictment of all energy weapons. Look at the asgard beam weapons.
Magazine. Also, depends on the writer and how big a character the target is.

Early on, jaffa armour gave very good protection against sustained M16 fire. Later on, they'd become less scary, and the same armour was easily penetrated by pistol calibre bullets from MP5s and pistols.
Yes, but it still takes a large portion of a magazine to kill even a jaffa, except for the few times when daniel actually needs to fight, but that's just daniel breaking the show. Also, clip is colloquial for magazine and completely appropriate. It's not like it's an internal mag.
 

Something Amyss

Aswyng and Amyss
Dec 3, 2008
24,759
0
0
Rednog said:
Here's the thing why are all of you assuming that the laser weapons in star wars move at the speed of light. We can clearly see the laser bolts fly through the air with the naked eye; considering you can see the individual bolt fly through the air it would definitely indicate that it is sign of it traveling far slower than the speed of light. If it were traveling at the speed of light it would travel from barrel to target far faster than you would be able to perceive.
Where as you don't see bullets travel through the air with the naked eye, thus it would stand to reason that in this scenario bullets would indeed be faster.
It's a convention of the movies? Speeders aren't really translucent, they don't fly on clouds of vaseline, and blaster fire is visible to the naked eye because the alternative wouldn't be cool.
 

Rednog

New member
Nov 3, 2008
3,567
0
0
spartan231490 said:
wackymon said:
OhJohnNo said:
'cos the Jedi would just catch them with his overpowered telekinesis and throw 'em all back at you, which he can't do with the non-solid blaster bolts.
Yeah, human reaction time is not that fast.
So, once more, WHY ARE THERE NOT AS MANY BULLETS!
Jedi's have precognition. It's not human reaction time, it's jedi reaction time, which is fast enough. This has been said.
guitarsniper said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
OhJohnNo said:
'cos the Jedi would just catch them with his overpowered telekinesis and throw 'em all back at you, which he can't do with the non-solid blaster bolts.
Also, Jedi don't block blaster bolts because they can react to the shots. They block them because they can see a fraction of a second into the future and tell where the shot will be before the trigger is even pulled.

Besides, there's plenty of sci-fi that uses slug throwers -- even Star Wars has a few examples in the EU. It's just in the higher technology settings, the energy weapons have some sort of advantage -- usually more destructive power, frequently fewer problems with things like ammunition and weight. In the lower technology settings, they're usually quite common. Look at Gundam, Battletech, Firefly, the Battlestar Galactica reboot -- all of them have primarily gunpowder and bullet based hand weapons, despite most of them having energy weapons at the vehicle level. For that matter, the Stargate franchise is full of situations where humans with modern guns triumph over aliens with energy weapons, especially in the movie and the early seasons of SG-1.
I remember a bit in SG1 where the humans are delivering guns to a bunch of Jaffa resistance, and O'neill makes a point about a P90 being a weapon of war, while a DE weapon was a weapon of terror. can't find a youtube clip or i'd post it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ps9iMH1N4
It's towards the end, around 2:50
However, it's not entirely accurate. The staff only needs one or two hits to kill a jaffa or even a goauld, a whole p90 clip might not do the trick. Also, that's specifically about the staff weapon, it's not an indictment of all energy weapons. Look at the asgard beam weapons.
wackymon said:
Siege_TF said:
"... a lightsaber could just vaporize what few bullets would find their mark even if the Jedi didn't feel like reflecting them."
Alright, this is just minorly annoying, but I'll just quote This article [http://what-if.xkcd.com/16/], basically replacing lightning with lightsaber:
What would happen if lightning A lightsaber struck a bullet in midair?
The bullet won't affect the path the lightning takes. You'd have somehow to time the shot so the bullet was in the middle of the bolt when the return stroke happened.
The core of a lightning bolt is a few centimeters in diameter. A bullet fired from an AK-47 is about 26 mm long and moves at about 700 millimeters every millisecond.
The bullet has a copper coating over a lead core. Copper is a fantastically good conductor of electricity, and much of the 20,000 amps could easily take a shortcut through the bullet.

Surprisingly, the bullet handles it pretty well. If it were sitting still, the current would quickly heat and melt the metal. But it?s moving along so quickly that it exits the channel before it can be warmed by more than a few degrees. It continues on to its target relatively unaffected. There are some curious electromagnetic forces created by the magnetic field around the bolt and the current flow through the bullet, but none of the ones I examined changed the overall picture very much.
So, deflecting it isn't all that much of an option, so... Yeah, Ballistic Gunslinger against Jedi, gunslinger would win, because lightning bolts are basically bolts of plasma. So, I suppose against Jedi, it's the most valuable weapon... I suppose it wouldn't be as useful to anything else.
A lightsaber is not a lightning bolt. Lightning bolt is electrical, lightsaber is plasma-based. Electrical vs heat, and the lightsaber is hot enough to cut through virtually anything, including several feet of blast door in just a few seconds(phantom menace), this is easily hot enough to vaporize a bullet in the time it takes for the bullet to pass through the plasma beam.
You really might want to brush up on your science. Lightning is a form of plasma.
Also, in the star wars universe there are plenty of materials that are lightsaber resistant, one of them functions by short circuiting the arc in the lightsaber.
 

StashAugustine

New member
Jan 21, 2012
179
0
0
"Slugs only go one way. They don't bounce."
"Off a vibroshield they will."
"Not off a lightsaber."

chimpzy said:
Except it doesn't look like he reflects the blasts. It's more that he blocks them with his hands. The Force may guide them into the path of the shots, but it are his hands that do the rest. As to why he can just take blaster shots, well, that may actually not be due to the Force.

Let's not forget that at this point Vader is mostly a cyborg and the number 2 in the Empire. It stands to reason that his armor and cybernetic components are made of the best and strongest materials available and thus quite capable standing up to some punishment from a common blaster like Han's. I also couldn't help noticing that Vader took all but one of the shots with his right hand, i.e. the one that was already fully robotic before Anakin became Vader.

Maybe I'm just over-analyzing this, but it just strikes me as odd that the only Force user in the movies that directly blocks blaster shots without a lightsaber is also the one that is half robot.
Corran Horn in the EU has the power to absorb blaster bolts with his body, but it's mentioned as fairly rare.
 

Spade Lead

New member
Nov 9, 2009
1,042
0
0
Random berk said:
I'm well aware of the reasons for not going full auto Rambo style in real life. However, we're talking about an entirely different situation, where you're facing a single enemy with no gun of his own, in open ground, with nothing but a lightsaber blade a couple of inches across for cover. And even firing full auto for just two or three seconds would surely lay down enough rounds that the Jedi wouldn't be able to block it? In that case it seems like a better option to light him up and hope that he doesn't get a chance to deflect any of the bullets back at you than just plink uselessly at him and stand a very high chance of him bouncing your shots back, with a fairly low chance of actually hitting him.
It could work, but how many troopers are going to burn up their blaster in the process, and if they don't kill him, then the Jedi is unopposed.

An energy based weapon must build heat much faster than a kinetic weapon, and have you ever seen what happens to an M16 when you fire it continuously for a minute straight? There is an episode of Sons of Guns where they water cool an M16 to be mounted on a boat, and the effect of just thirty seconds of continuous fire on the unmodified rifle is amazing. The effect on a blaster rifle has to be way worse.

That is what everyone keeps forgetting. Yeah, I could go all Rambo on him with an M60, but if the Jedi avoids it for long enough, I burn up the barrel and then I am defenseless. M60s are designed for that type of fighting, and they still only get about a minute of continuous fire before the barrel is destroyed.

If you build a faulty lightsaber, the blade will eat through the hilt and explode, causing you to lose an arm, if you are lucky. (*Cough*Tenel Ka*Cough*) If we all agree that Blasters and lightsabers are similar technology, obviously you have the same limitations as far as building the barrel and firing chamber, and overheating either of those ends catastrophically.