Starcraft 2: Will you pay full price for 1/3 of a game?

[Coldie]

What I want to know is why the hell they split the game up to begin with.
Your telling me I have to buy three separate products to get the whole starcraft 2 experience.
...kinda annoying

At some point they realized that they had too much content to finish the game in this lifetime, so instead of cutting this content or delaying the game for a few more years, they split the story into three parts, while making each part into a full-size game in its own right AND adding new campaign mechanics to each.

This also has the advantage of the first game being released now instead of after Half-Life Episodes 1-3 are released as a single package.

Coincidentally, each game just happens to cover one race in its campaign, but then again, it wouldn't make much sense for Protoss to do mercenary stuff, Zerg being diplomatic, or Raynor spontaneously evolving.

I suck at RTS games, but I love playing them.
I'm thinking I'll wait for Steam to fix this for us, then rejoice further by giving Steam my money.

I really doubt that any Blizzard games will be added to Steam, as the new Battle.net is basically a Blizzard-specific version of Steamworks and Blizzard already got their own digital distribution up and running.

 

[JJMUG]

Ill get wings of Liberty i like Jim Raynor as a character, but i am not sure ill get the other ones.

 

[hcig]

screw starcraft 2
im going to wait 6 years for it to be budget like everyone else

of course, knowing blizzard, that wont ever happen

AND DONT TELL ME BLIZZARD ISNT BEING GREEDY, they STILL sell diablo and warcraft 3, but since wow came out, they ONLY sold it in a warchest, and its STILL full price. they actually INCREASED the price of the game when they realized that wow was making them rich, that crap is messed up. also, dont tell me they arent greedy, because they are run by bobby kotick, and that guy doesnt even want games to be fun, he just want you to pay for them anyway.

 

[WaffleCopters]

ok, im gonna stop bothering quoting people here, and shorten this whole crap down to one. (assuming i dont forget to include stuff)

1. Starcraft 2 IS split into three campaigns, all which have different mechanics. Though you may rather not pay for 3 parts, you have to since each campaign is game length, 32-36 missions long.

2. Expansions WILL add new stuff, but noone knows what they will be. Also, the addons for DOW werent really game changing, since that games strategy always end up being unit spam.

3. Starcraft 2 is NOT 1/3rd complete without the expansions. THE CAMPAIGN IS. Yes, some games multiplayer isnt worth mentioning, but you may have noticed the SC2 Beta was MULTIPLAYER. so evidently they are putting huge emphasis on the multiplayer this time.

4. Blizzard are not cash whores for making us pay for three parts. if they wanted to they would make blizzard.net pay to use. The effort and resources they put into this game they have to get back at some point, so paying 60-100 for 300 dollars worth of game will put them back really really far.

this is all i can be bothered posting right now.

 

[WaffleCopters]

screw starcraft 2
im going to wait 6 years for it to be budget like everyone else

of course, knowing blizzard, that wont ever happen

AND DONT TELL ME BLIZZARD ISNT BEING GREEDY, they STILL sell diablo and warcraft 3, but since wow came out, they ONLY sold it in a warchest, and its STILL full price. they actually INCREASED the price of the game when they realized that wow was making them rich, that crap is messed up. also, dont tell me they arent greedy, because they are run by bobby kotick, and that guy doesnt even want games to be fun, he just want you to pay for them anyway.

blizzard ISNT being greedy, they are being realistic. and Battlechests are worth MORE then you pay. and stop whining about not being able to find the parts seperately still, i have trouble finding battlechests. And they didnt increase the price because more people played, the increased the price to ACCOMODATE the increased population. Ever ran a server mainframe? its not cheap.

but seriously, whereever you lived is geting screwed over by the owners of your stores, none of the blizzard games increased in price where i am, and jdging by the way the value of the USD is going, it shouldve, but IT DIDNT. i pay 50 for a Starcraft battlechest, which is less then its worth. before you make claims that they INCREASED prices, or ONLY SOLD IN BATTLECHESTS, check your claims, i can go into one store and INSTANTLY find them sold SEPERATELY and the price theyve ALWAYS BEEN SOLD AT.

 

[Tony2077]

ok, im gonna stop bothering quoting people here, and shorten this whole crap down to one. (assuming i dont forget to include stuff)

1. Starcraft 2 IS split into three campaigns, all which have different mechanics. Though you may rather not pay for 3 parts, you have to since each campaign is game length, 32-36 missions long.

2. Expansions WILL add new stuff, but noone knows what they will be. Also, the addons for DOW werent really game changing, since that games strategy always end up being unit spam.

3. Starcraft 2 is NOT 1/3rd complete without the expansions. THE CAMPAIGN IS. Yes, some games multiplayer isnt worth mentioning, but you may have noticed the SC2 Beta was MULTIPLAYER. so evidently they are putting huge emphasis on the multiplayer this time.

4. Blizzard are not cash whores for making us pay for three parts. if they wanted to they would make blizzard.net pay to use. The effort and resources they put into this game they have to get back at some point, so paying 60-100 for 300 dollars worth of game will put them back really really far.

this is all i can be bothered posting right now.

most betas are mp and i haven't really seen any sp beta's i may be wrong since i haven't looked for any or seen any

 

[Luke Cartner]

And I would be willing to wait another 3 years for it to all come out as one, that would be fine, i just don't want to play $140 for 60 hours of play, hell Dragon age was 60 hours and only $50.

RPGs tend to be a lot longer than any other genre. But I assume you already knew that and are just grasping at straws now.

Yes I knew that, I was making a point, if your game is 20 hours long, and you have other content in development for it, why not just wait and put that in the game as well?

LOL hell no. I'm not waiting another three years for SC2. Blizzard's plan was always to have three installments. Just like Bioware didn't wait to put Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 all into one game.

And I would be willing to wait another 3 years for it to all come out as one, that would be fine, i just don't want to play $140 for 60 hours of play, hell Dragon age was 60 hours and only $50.

RPGs tend to be a lot longer than any other genre. But I assume you already knew that and are just grasping at straws now.

Ummn rpg's tend to be longer than console games, I would argue however RTS's are as long if not longer than rpg's.
Personally if there is not 60-80 hours of single player play in start craft 2, its not the full release.

I really hope that you're aware that you're BSing here. Because it would be pretty sad otherwise. Give me one example of an RTS (without expansions) that's longer than 40 hours. Obviously DOW doesn't count since one dude in this thread is saying he beat it in 8 hours, while another is claiming it's 40 hours long.

And Starcraft 2 will be 60+ hours with both expansions, so yea.

You you finished warcraft 2 in under 40 hours?
Or C & C generals?
Or the the first Startcraft?
Really?
good for you.
personally If I can finish a rpg or rts in less than a week I return it to eb games for that no questions asked full refund.

 

[WaffleCopters]

and anyway, all of you who complain about having to pay too much, quit yer bitching and come live in australia. We pay almost double for EVERY game. you say you dont like 60 bucks for a game? try paying 110 like we do.

 

[Tony2077]

and anyway, all of you who complain about having to pay too much, quit yer bitching and come live in australia. We pay almost double for EVERY game. you say you dont like 60 bucks for a game? try paying 110 like we do.

blame having a different currency

 

[ragestreet]

If I can get a PC good enough to run this game at a speed faster than quadruple-amputee-turtle I'll think about it. I'll probably just end up pirating it though. I've played WoW for a few years now. They have enough of my money.

Also thanks to everyone who gave me their opinions on DOW 2. One more question to those who've played the expansion: Did they ruin Eliphas's voice? That's a deal breaker for me. I really liked that guy.

 

[Kajt]

Full price? I'm buying the freaking CE.

 

[mythgraven]

Ill direct attention to a post I placed earlier on the STO Forums. It applies pretty well here, too.

------What "we" the community are doing, is taking good, honest, truthful threads, where we point out that we feel wronged, by a bad faith manuever, or a unwise decision, or what have you... and we let it degrade into a personal, one on one, or one on two, or group versus group insult war.

If your only point in jumping on a thread, is to insult the OP, (And yes, I do count that smarmy little "intellectual rebuttal" thing you guys try to hide behind an insult, if you continue to reply to someone past two posts in an effort to prove them wrong, then its personal, not academic.) then you are failing to make an actual point. I do not refer to trolls, i refer to people who, on the surface, would seem to be counter-arguing, but are infact, pushing back the notion of thread advancement.

Resorting to all out war with people, over being kicked in the fuzzies by a big-game studio, is like wrestling in the special olympics: You both look retarded, and the people on the sides are either guffawing, or hiding their eyes in shame.

Keep it constructive. Or stay off of it.----


Whiskey Echo!
Mythgraven

 

[Yureina]

I don't really like it, but... there are much worse games out there that I could blow a lot of $$$ on. Perhaps not this much, but still. Better Starcraft 2 than a lot of other things out there, especially if it ends up to be as good as everyone says it is/will be.

 

[Danallighieri]

I'd rather pay for 3 really well polished storylines that they've taken the time to develop and such than 1 really crap game that they've just thrown out there, perfectionists may take their time but it works

 

[Delusibeta]

I'm surprised this thread hasn't died yet. The only way this debate will be settled is to wait for the release of the game. Then one side can use their "I Told You So"s on the other.

Spoiler: To all the people who's waiting for a Steam release of any Blizzard game

 

[Der Kommissar]

The multiplayer is super fun. And there's a level editor. Best. RTS. Ever.

What low criteria does this title have! Warcraft 3 was also super fun! (and I would deem LAN support would make it vastly superior!)

I've spent hours upon hours on first Warcraft, then Warcraft II, then Starcraft, then Warcraft III and its expansion, then World of Warcraft. Don't talk to me about "supporting" Blizzard.

From WoW they have like one fucking gazillion dollars, and what do they do?

It's not like they need "support" anymore. It seems very much so that the turnover they spend on their games is marginally low, seeing as WoW still does not have decent servers.

 

[Signa]

...welcome to the new generation of gaming. Just about every developer/publisher is attempting to milk you for all you're worth with shit like project ten dollar, online pass, and additional DLC running you $10 each for 2 hours of gameplay.

So you are saying we all should just bend over and take it? Hardly the correct action if you ask me. I'd prefer to see the games industry die than have it go down that road and lose all its dignity.

OT: I don't play Starcraft so my opinion doesn't count, but I certainly wouldn't buy the game if I had interest in it if this is the way they are going to be. Even if it's long enough of the game, it's still about the presentation, and the message it sends to the player. It's presented as only a portion of the game, and it's a big "suck my dick, all you addicted gamers!" from Blizzard. Once all 3 games are out, chances are you will NEED them all if you plan on experiencing the game if you plan on playing online or something. Look at Diablo 2 and how necessary having the expansion is. Sure you can play vanilla Diablo, but do you want to.

 

[Cody211282]

If I can get a PC good enough to run this game at a speed faster than quadruple-amputee-turtle I'll think about it. I'll probably just end up pirating it though. I've played WoW for a few years now. They have enough of my money.

Also thanks to everyone who gave me their opinions on DOW 2. One more question to those who've played the expansion: Did they ruin Eliphas's voice? That's a deal breaker for me. I really liked that guy.

From what I heard in the expansion it's the same he is just in the expansion though.