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SnipErlite

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Aidinthel said:
Well, a lot of people don't seem to realize Steam has an offline mode and assume it's always-on DRM.
Matthew94 said:
There is offline mode

Many people , including me, can't use offline mode. It just tries to connect again, fails, and asks you which mode you'd like to use. It's a pretty commmon bug with (at the last search) no solution. This understandably ticks some people off, especially those who have a patchy internet connection.

Personally I love Steam, but that does annoy me slightly.
 

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Aidinthel said:
Well, a lot of people don't seem to realize Steam has an offline mode and assume it's always-on DRM.
Offline mode doesn't work as advertised. My internet was cut for a week and to get offline mode to work it still had to be connected to the internet first for some reason ¬¬
 

Canadamus Prime

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It doesn't bother me. The only thing that does kinda bother me is when I get Steam notifications when I'm in the middle of playing a game.
 

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Meh. I have to wait long enough to run my street fighter, and then log onto GFWL (seriosly, who the hell thought it was a good idea to use that?). I don't like waiting the extra time for steam to boot up.
 

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Keeping Steam open never bothered me, even on my old toaster that had one gigabyte memory and a 1.6 single core processor.
 
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Eliam_Dar said:
Never saw this as an annoyance, in fact steam let's me get to my games faster, and keep them updated. I realize that it may use some resources, but I got a high end PC, it really doesn't bother me at all. In fact I use it to launch non-steam games as well.
Ditto. all nearly 200 games on my steam are there, no CD, no physical mess, no hassle. Besides, if I really wanted to overreact at it being some kind of DRM, I could just, you know, burn physical copies of the games, which Steam lets you, and write the CD key on it and call it a day.
 

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manythings said:
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CleverNickname said:
... I hate games I don't have on Steam because I'll usually end up missing the overlay

I know it works on added shortcuts, but I always forget to add them.

Hell, I have Steam running even if I'm in a non-Steam game. Then I'll still hear the bloop of incoming messages (which is probably the most pleasant you-have-a-msg-sound ever).

My friend's brother hates Steam and barely plays anything on it (he's a dirty raging pirate) but is nevertheless online on Steam all the time.

People hating on Steam just want to feel special because they can come up with fancy-sounding reasons not to use something practical and popular. I'm so impressed by your superiorness (they're too cool for common superiority). Look at me, this is my impressed face, you self-absorbed tech-hipster.
There are good reasons to dislike steam, like the fact that they are among the worst priced providers but not enough people bother shopping around to notice. They also restrict access to your property and make it harder to actually make use of it.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/17/deus-ex-human-revolution-is-region-locked/

Also stuff like that which valve have taken no issue with in direct contadiction to them being all about the consumer.
That's because "fair trade" laws made by retail lobbyists require them to put up shit prices and stuff like that. Not something Valve can do anything about.
Consumer choice trumps fair trde. Any action, beyond providing the best choice, is forcing consumers to purchase with artificial barricades. It's nothing short of price fixing.
Try telling that to the retail cartels who make the laws.
 

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GeorgW said:
Could someone enlighten me, don't you have to be online to log in before you can go to offline mode? Or is there a way through it I haven't found?
I don't mind it, but it could maybe be a little more convenient.
from my experience once youre in offline mode youre fine..you stay in offline mode..I dont think you even have to go online if you turn off your computer...I rareley ever go online

or to put it another way Its not like how AC2 ended up, you dont need to connect before you can play

my relationship with steam is a little love/hate

it does what it does relitivley well....but somtimes i have to shave off a huge chunk of my monthey internet just to play game (updates)

and then somtimes it loses my game data
 

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There are numerous complaints with Steam. Here are the three biggest that I feel are warranted:

1. Regional Restrictions.
Steam enables developers and publishers to regionally restrict their titles, often to ensure that a game costs US$60.00 in America, US$70 across most of Europe and US$90.00 in Australia and other counties unfortunate enough to not be America.
There is no justification for this type of restriction. Steamworks, Valve's DRM and Developer solution, list this as a feature of the software; prior to Steam, regionally restricting PC titles was all but non-existent, which language being the only barrier.

2. Monopoly.
Any game using a Steamworks title - even those sold at retail - require Steam to install and use. This places an internet requirement on titles that shouldn't have such a requirement. Further to this, these titles also install the Steam Store Client onto a person's computer, ensuring Valve's digital distribution service is popping up on as many computers as possible, regardless of whether or not the person who purchased the game at a store wanted to use Steam or not.
Every single owner of the PC versions of Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Civilization V and Deus Ex: Human Revolution (to name a mere handful) are all Valve customers, all with Steam accounts, all using Valve's digital distribution service. They never had an option in this matter.
Valve like to throw around their account numbers. 30 Million, as last advertised. How many of those accounts were forced to be made so someone could just play their damn game?

Furthermore, Valve altered their service Terms and Conditions recently to preclude any developer from selling content directly through any game sold on Steam. Why? This by-passes the Steam service, and Valve doesn't get their 30% cut of the sale. This is why EA no longer have many of their titles on Steam.
Valve have told other digital distribution services that they should sell Steamworks titles, despite the fact that once someone install one - even from another service - they have to install and run the Steam Store Client.
Valve are hypocrites of the highest order.

3. Consolidation.
Valve have reserved the right via their EULA - which you agreed to - to remove any and all licences at their sole discretion from any account on steam with no explanation given. No appeals, no questions, no second chances. All the titles currently on Steam that you own remain the sole property of Valve. How much have you spent on Steam? You don't own or have the right to access a single thing. Nothing. You only get what Valve allows you to have.

In 10 years when Steam is pre-loaded on PCs along with operating systems, when Valve is the biggest player in the video game industry with more control over Gamers, Publishers and Developers than any one company should ethically have, we'll remember threads like these. They'll be linked to often. Accompanied by a smug 'I told you so.'
 

Knusper

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I've never had a problem with it. I keep it running on online mode all the time even as I write this.
 

Rawne1980

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I don't dislike Steam because it has to be online I dislike them for 2 different reasons.

1. It's not all that cheap. I get my games cheaper elsewhere. I'm not talking a couple of pounds either i'm talking between £10-£20 cheaper.

Steam is one of the more expensive places to buy your games. It's more convenient but thats represented in the pricing.

2. I'm a modder. I had issues with Fallout 3 failing to run some of the mods when I played it through steam.

Since then i've never used it and never will.
 

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Farther than stars said:
Mild inconvience my arse! I once had to wait a full day for all the patches to upload. A day!
you control whether each individual game auto-updates or not and you can manually pause/cancel/restart any patches...so it's only an inconvenience because you don't know how to use the tool properly.
 

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Rawne1980 said:
1. It's not all that cheap. I get my games cheaper elsewhere. I'm not talking a couple of pounds either i'm talking between £10-£20 cheaper.

Steam is one of the more expensive places to buy your games. It's more convenient but thats represented in the pricing.
For brand new games I have absolutely no argument with you there, but when it comes to slightly older games and Steam sales(which sometimes do include pretty new games) you've got yourself a goldmine.

It also tends to take longer for the overall price on games to depreciate as well, but that tends to come with the territory of the digital market and not just Steam itself.
 

Plinglebob

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I've had a thing against Steam ever since it refused to let me play any of my games for 9 months a couple of years ago. In the end it only started working again after I formatted the PC. I also resent having to have a 3rd party program to install a game I've bought in the shops.

I've also got anoher reason as tonight I tried to play Fallout:NV but whenever I try to start I keep getting an error message of "The Steam Servers arecurrently too busy to handle your request" Now if I was trying to download it then I wouldn' be too annoyed as I get there's a big release today, but not being able to play, even in offline mode, really takes the cake.
 

Twilight_guy

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Because it takes up some resources and also because many people have a crazy deep hatred for DRM, which Steam is, and because it's an additional requirement that is not the game that must be open, which lots of people aren't happy with because being forced to have another program open is apparently an insult to their ego and livelihood. (as you can see, I don't much care but I know its bothers some people and their free to not use Steam).

Also, some people don't seem to understand that Steam is a DRM and thus don't understand why you have to connect tot he servers so often. Steam is verifying that your copy of a game is legitimate and keeping track of you. (maybe those people will move into the anti-DRM camp if they learn that).
 

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manythings said:
CleverNickname said:
... I hate games I don't have on Steam because I'll usually end up missing the overlay

I know it works on added shortcuts, but I always forget to add them.

Hell, I have Steam running even if I'm in a non-Steam game. Then I'll still hear the bloop of incoming messages (which is probably the most pleasant you-have-a-msg-sound ever).

My friend's brother hates Steam and barely plays anything on it (he's a dirty raging pirate) but is nevertheless online on Steam all the time.

People hating on Steam just want to feel special because they can come up with fancy-sounding reasons not to use something practical and popular. I'm so impressed by your superiorness (they're too cool for common superiority). Look at me, this is my impressed face, you self-absorbed tech-hipster.
There are good reasons to dislike steam, like the fact that they are among the worst priced providers but not enough people bother shopping around to notice. They also restrict access to your property and make it harder to actually make use of it.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/17/deus-ex-human-revolution-is-region-locked/

Also stuff like that which valve have taken no issue with in direct contadiction to them being all about the consumer.
Steam didn't set the Region Lock. Those sorts of settings are selected by the seller. I guess you could get mad at steam for making the option available. But they aren't directly responsible for it being that way.
 

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Amishdemon said:
It seems to me that a major complaint with steam is that it must be open to run steam games.

I just can't understand why this is such a bad thing. Anyone care to enlighten me?
For those who dont have the hardware that far out exceeds of what the games need to run good and smooth, having Steam in the backround takes up to unnecessary amounts of your PC's performance!

GeorgW said:
Could someone enlighten me, don't you have to be online to log in before you can go to offline mode? Or is there a way through it I haven't found?
I don't mind it, but it could maybe be a little more convenient.
No, when you try to login and it fails due to no internet connection it asks if you would like to go to offline mode in wich you can play all the games installed on the Steam.
 

GeorgW

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zuro64 said:
Amishdemon said:
It seems to me that a major complaint with steam is that it must be open to run steam games.

I just can't understand why this is such a bad thing. Anyone care to enlighten me?
For those who dont have the hardware that far out exceeds of what the games need to run good and smooth, having Steam in the backround takes up to unnecessary amounts of your PC's performance!

GeorgW said:
Could someone enlighten me, don't you have to be online to log in before you can go to offline mode? Or is there a way through it I haven't found?
I don't mind it, but it could maybe be a little more convenient.
No, when you try to login and it fails due to no internet connection it asks if you would like to go to offline mode in wich you can play all the games installed on the Steam.
But there's the problem, that doesn't always happen to me.