Steam Sales Double [Again] in 2011

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Andy of Comix Inc

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Steam needs competition. This sort of monopoly can't be good for the industry.

Maybe if the Steam storefront were separate from Steamworks? At any rate, this is simultaneously amazing and disturbing news, though hardly surprising.
 
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Glademaster said:
Angry wall of text
viranimus said:
Angry wall of text
Guys, if you want people to listen to what you say; can I offer three suggestions:

1) Stop insinuating everyone is a moron except you.
2) Run a damn spell-checker, put some punctuation in and make it easy to read.
3) Cut down the walls to some relevant points.

You both have 40 word sentences with no pauses. Any good points you make will be lost.

Valve have created a depository where you can loan games through their servers. They have promised that if the servers go down, they will remove the DRM. That's the best they can do. In the mean time, they have invigorated a failing marked, protected some of our software and brought a number of indie developers into the world of the big hitters. It's probably fair to say that without the work of Valve, GoG and others that Minecraft wouldn't have become so loved - not because it was downloaded from them, but they legitimized the idea of internet buying.

The retail of games has changed - it's not going back to cassettes on shelves, because the bricks/mortar stores will no longer allow that. They can make far better profits pushing midnight releases on the consoles than deal with the PC.

There is a problem with media ownership these days, but it's far more widespread than Gabe's platform. He's just pushing into a new paradigm that's emerging. What needs to happen is restriction on how much middle men are taking between the consumer-creator transaction. Steam is only gaining so much ground because it treats both a lot fairer than all of the other competitors.

Any of the arguments on copyright, DRM or piracy all boil down to money/rights/resources being lost between creator and consumer. That's action that needs to be taken by those willing to police it fairly. Valve seem to be the only ones willing to do that at the moment.
 

Fiannaz

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There are competition but steam is just so big that the others arent as visible. Nor are they anywhere near it in size. Its a good way for indie developers to get their games out though so not all is bad with steam having some 60%ish hold of that market branch they where after all the first successfull attempt at this
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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I hope pc gaming isn't dead because otherwise I am a like a necrophiliac or something :<
 

Kopikatsu

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Andy of Comix Inc said:
Steam needs competition. This sort of monopoly can't be good for the industry.

Maybe if the Steam storefront were separate from Steamworks? At any rate, this is simultaneously amazing and disturbing news, though hardly surprising.
Origin sent me a 25% off coupon for my birthday.

If I didn't already have 170 games on Steam, I might consider Origin. Steam didn't give me anything for my birthday.

(If anyone is going to quote this message to go 'BUT ORIGIN EATS CHILDREN AND WILL STEAL YOUR LIFE', don't bother. Pleaaaaaase don't bother.)
 

Kopikatsu

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Kopikatsu said:
Steam didn't give me anything for my birthday.
And how many pieces of coal and 33% off tokens did you get around that time? :p
Zero. My birthday was on the 4th, not during the winter event.

Also, the event coupons were for specific things. Origin's coupon is for anything.
 
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Kopikatsu said:
My birthday was on the 4th, not during the winter event.
So you got an unbirthday present then. How many unbirthday presents did Origin get you?
Also, the event coupons were for specific things. Origin's coupon is for anything.
Anything EA...which you used to be able to get on Steam for cheaper...

I've still got some tokens if you want a late birthday present from Steam...I'm sure I've got a Huntsman I never use...(Apart from to wind @Caliostro: up with )
 

Kopikatsu

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Abandon4093 said:
Kopikatsu said:
Andy of Comix Inc said:
Steam needs competition. This sort of monopoly can't be good for the industry.

Maybe if the Steam storefront were separate from Steamworks? At any rate, this is simultaneously amazing and disturbing news, though hardly surprising.
Origin sent me a 25% off coupon for my birthday.

If I didn't already have 170 games on Steam, I might consider Origin. Steam didn't give me anything for my birthday.

(If anyone is going to quote this message to go 'BUT ORIGIN EATS CHILDREN AND WILL STEAL YOUR LIFE', don't bother. Pleaaaaaase don't bother.)
B.. bu.. BUT ORIGIN EATS CHILDREN AND WILL STEAL YOUR LIFE!

True story.

Why don't you e-mail gabe with the idea of Birthday discounts, I'm sure he'd jump on it. Anything to get a sale ay Gaben?
I'd rather not have Steam get anything like that.

There are people with hundreds of alt accounts. (One guy, Nooch, has over 12,000 of them.) With Steam Trading...it couldn't turn out well.

If anyone is wondering how they get so many accounts, they pay $0.01 on Humble Bumbles and use the activate code on Steam. Voila, premium account.
 
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Abandon4093 said:
Why would you want more than one account, let alone 12,000 of the buggers?

I'd rather have all my games on one account.
One piece of coal x 12,000 accounts...

Equally, Vac ban this account? Oh dear, here's one I prepared earlier.
 
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Glademaster said:
Angry wall of text
viranimus said:
Angry wall of text
Guys, if you want people to listen to what you say; can I offer three suggestions:

1) Stop insinuating everyone is a moron except you.
2) Run a damn spell-checker, put some punctuation in and make it easy to read.
3) Cut down the walls to some relevant points.

You both have 40 word sentences with no pauses. Any good points you make will be lost.

Valve have created a depository where you can loan games through their servers. They have promised that if the servers go down, they will remove the DRM. That's the best they can do. In the mean time, they have invigorated a failing marked, protected some of our software and brought a number of indie developers into the world of the big hitters. It's probably fair to say that without the work of Valve, GoG and others that Minecraft wouldn't have become so loved - not because it was downloaded from them, but they legitimized the idea of internet buying.

The retail of games has changed - it's not going back to cassettes on shelves, because the bricks/mortar stores will no longer allow that. They can make far better profits pushing midnight releases on the consoles than deal with the PC.

There is a problem with media ownership these days, but it's far more widespread than Gabe's platform. He's just pushing into a new paradigm that's emerging. What needs to happen is restriction on how much middle men are taking between the consumer-creator transaction. Steam is only gaining so much ground because it treats both a lot fairer than all of the other competitors.

Any of the arguments on copyright, DRM or piracy all boil down to money/rights/resources being lost between creator and consumer. That's action that needs to be taken by those willing to police it fairly. Valve seem to be the only ones willing to do that at the moment.
Steam doesn't have a spell checker so I can't help that when I am in a game. I never Steam as a platform or as DRM was bad the thing I am pointing out that is bad is the EULA and what they actually have written in them which is that basically every game you have probably bought as only ever been a licence whether it be from Steam or Retail. If that holds up in court is a different matter but that is what the EULA entitles people to.
 

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Valve: No draconian DRM, doesn't treat it's customers like everyone of them is trying to steal from them, makes shit tons of money.

Other publishers/developers: doing it wrong.
 

Kopikatsu

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Abandon4093 said:
Kopikatsu said:
Abandon4093 said:
Kopikatsu said:
Andy of Comix Inc said:
Steam needs competition. This sort of monopoly can't be good for the industry.

Maybe if the Steam storefront were separate from Steamworks? At any rate, this is simultaneously amazing and disturbing news, though hardly surprising.
Origin sent me a 25% off coupon for my birthday.

If I didn't already have 170 games on Steam, I might consider Origin. Steam didn't give me anything for my birthday.

(If anyone is going to quote this message to go 'BUT ORIGIN EATS CHILDREN AND WILL STEAL YOUR LIFE', don't bother. Pleaaaaaase don't bother.)
B.. bu.. BUT ORIGIN EATS CHILDREN AND WILL STEAL YOUR LIFE!

True story.

Why don't you e-mail gabe with the idea of Birthday discounts, I'm sure he'd jump on it. Anything to get a sale ay Gaben?
I'd rather not have Steam get anything like that.

There are people with hundreds of alt accounts. (One guy, Nooch, has over 12,000 of them.) With Steam Trading...it couldn't turn out well.

If anyone is wondering how they get so many accounts, they pay $0.01 on Humble Bumbles and use the activate code on Steam. Voila, premium account.
Why would you want more than one account, let alone 12,000 of the buggers?

I'd rather have all my games on one account.
Most of them do it for TF2. Big money there.

Nooch (The guy with 12,000 accounts) specifically did his for TF2. Someone did the math, and he rakes in a few hundred dollars a day in items. (As in, he can smelt them into metal and sell them for about $0.70 a refined over Paypal)
 

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xXxJessicaxXx said:

I hope pc gaming isn't dead because otherwise I am a like a necrophiliac or something :<
That's almost the plot of Twilight. One girl's choice between bestiality and necrophilia.

On topic, I like Steam - especially being able to flip between Mac and PC on the same account. Only one bug with that so far - don't launch Plants vs Zombies on both "sides" - choose one or the other, or it prevents the game from loading at all.

Haven't had any problems with other games though.

I bought New Vegas for a friend of mine in the Christmas sale (she started playing FPS games about a month ago and has already stepped up to Legendary in Halo - she didn't even own a mouse before she started!) so she'll be getting to that after HL2, and I she picked up Max Payne 1 and 2 in exchange for me since they "seemed interesting".
 

Delicious Anathema

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I wish Microsoft and Nintendo would adopt Steam, and that Valve actually released some freaking games. Team Fortress 2 with updates on Xbox 360 would be so awesome, as well as cross platform play.

It's a shame it's practically restricted to PC gaming, which I still find much more expensive than console gaming, though mostly a superior experience overall.