Stephen Moffat ends run at Dr Who.

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Albino Boo

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The BBC has announced that there will be only a Christmas special shown this year and the season 10 will delayed to 2017. After which Moffat will leave and Broadchurch (UK version) creator Chris Chibnall will take over.

4 years is about the right length for one person to run a show like Dr Who and I dont think anyone wants a repeat of what happened under Jonathan Nathan Turner.
 

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It's about time. I don't know how it happened in the first place, but Moffat was a mistake. He had a few good ideas for episodes but he is most certainly not showrunner material. We should count ourselves lucky he didn't end up getting the show a decade off the air to get some breathing room like the last time such large and consistent mistakes in discussion making occurred.

Hopefully now we will get more well written stories, likeable companions and a U.N.I.T. that's halfway competent.
 

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Hopefully the show will get better with Chibnall. According to his credits he worked under one Tennant episode (42), which I don't really recall, and a few Matt Smith episodes, which I can't tell if they were bad because of the writing or Smith's acting.

Either way, time will tell.
 

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madwarper said:
According to his credits he worked under one Tennant episode (42), which I don't really recall.
42 was a good episode in a bad season, and I have faith in him. Season 8 really showed Moffats boredom with the show, when he started just going crazy with it and ignoring a lot of lore and arcs. Most of the deaths had little impact and were sudden with little reason behind them, almost just to have them there so the new Doctor would be shown as a "Dark Doctor" without actually having to characterize him. Season 9 was an improvement though, but I think he was just going out strong.
 

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YAY!

I groan every time I see his name pop up in the opening credits.

I actually don't think of Matt Smith as a bad Doctor, but ruined by bad writing.

It just sucks that we won't have a Dr Who series this year.
 

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Fucking yes. Just a pity this couldn't have happened a bit earlier and saved us from that travesty of a series finale.
 

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Megalodon said:
Fucking yes. Just a pity this couldn't have happened a bit earlier and saved us from that travesty of a series finale.
Which travesty of a series finale? Not like he just had one.
 

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Finally! after the last story arc i decided to drop dr who but if Moffat's gone i might give it another chance im not familiar with the new guys work but it can't be as bad as the latest season.
although looking at it the worst stuff this season wasn't written by him so maybe it wont matter.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Megalodon said:
Fucking yes. Just a pity this couldn't have happened a bit earlier and saved us from that travesty of a series finale.
Which travesty of a series finale? Not like he just had one.
The most recent one. While he had some other definite duds, the this series it particularly riled me up, not only was it poor, it essentially undermined a lot of what I'd enjoyed about one of the only two episodes in the series I thought was any good (Face The Raven).
 

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I have mixed feelings, but mostly positive. The last few seasons have been filled to the brim with gimmicks, and traded in real character dynamics and chemistry for convoluted plot twists. I don't know how this guy will choose to run Doctor Who, but given the season delay (another bummer) it would seem he's going to carve his own path separate from Moffat's, which I'm okay with. He wrote the Tennant episode 42 which was really good, but he also wrote Power of Three have many, MANY problems with[footnote]First, defibrillators don't work like that. Taking liberties with science fiction technology is one thing, taking liberties with actually existing technology which is used in medical emergencies is downright irresponsible. Second, given the length of time people were dead before the Doctor restarted their hearts, they would have all been brain damaged beyond repair. After four minutes of no blood pumping through your brain, there's nothing functional left. There's no way less than that amount of time passed, and they never addressed this issue in the episode. I don't care if they had just covered it up with some technobabble, the fact that the issue was never even brought up just screams lazy, ignorant, and unedited writing. The ending was rushed, and the enemies were never fully explained, and the aliens in the hospital were never fully explained.[/footnote] A decent episode if you pretend the ending didn't happen, but that's a trademark of too many episodes during Moffat's time for me to be completely comfortable with this guy running the show.

I'm just hoping this guy dials it down a bit and starts to throw in more character-centered conflict, as opposed to plot-device centered conflict. Moffat doesn't seem to realize that the entire universe doesn't need to be in jeopardy in order to make an episode dramatic or epic. In fact, having the stakes so high tends to become undramatic, because you know the universe isn't ACTUALLY going to be destroyed, and things will soon be set right. But if you've got a room full of solid characters you've grown to care about and the plot armor is off, then you've got a tense thriller on your hands.

Also, no more god damn plot holes. Moffat has on more than one occasion had to clear up details about his episodes in interviews. That's all fine and dandy if these details were in your head and make the story make sense, but if you fail to convey these details to the audience, then the problem isn't them for not suspending their belief enough. The problem is YOU for not conveying your story properly.
 

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Firstly.


With that out of the way, I gave up Doctor Who completely after the last season. Somehow it just completely managed to kill all my interest in the show. If the new guy manages to fix the problems with Mofffat's directions that people in the thread have pointed out, I might give it another go.

I really, really hope that the new guy learns from the successes and failures of his previous episodes, the premise in The Power Of Three was actually quite clever and a distinct change from the usual style of episode. It also gave us a view of the Doctor where he has to settle down in a place waiting for something to happen which was quite good. 42 on the other hand had some really, really good tension and well written characters even if it did end up following the old Who trope of "Humans fucked up and put themselves in danger because they didn't know any better".
 

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As much as i have enjoyed the last two doctors the overall story arcs have been rather poor with unsatisfying conclusions not to mention the constant deaths which aren't really deaths such as the whole robot doctor nonsense. I just hope they tone down the obsessive focus on the traveling companions which gets more noticeable every time someone new joins.
 

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Was he behind the Weeping Angels. If yes, he did good there. He has some good hits but has a lot of bad bad poor misses. Doctor Who needs something fresh and new.
 

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Parasondox said:
Was he behind the Weeping Angels. If yes, he did good there. He has some good hits but has a lot of bad bad poor misses. Doctor Who needs something fresh and new.
He wrote 'Blink', 'Girl In The Fireplace' and the Library two-parter. Those were the episodes that made me love Doctor Who so I was excited when he was initially taking over as show runner. I really liked season 5 but after that it really started declining.
 

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He wrote 'Blink', 'Girl In The Fireplace' and the Library two-parter. Those were the episodes that made me love Doctor Who so I was excited when he was initially taking over as show runner. I really liked season 5 but after that it really started declining.
Series 6 didn't mark a decline so much as it marked a continuation of issues Doctor Who has had since the revival or even sometimes since the classic series. People scapegoated Moffat and Smith, which makes me wonder who they'll blame if Doctor Who continues to be Doctor Who.
 

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I prefered Moffat's version to the sub Baz Luhrmann of the Russell T Davies era. Moffat's Who was closer to old Who, which what I grew up on. That said, Moffat needed a good editor looking over his shoulder to stop the excesses of postmodernism to which he is prone. Someone needs to whisper into his ear you are not Harold Pinter and stop trying to be him. Its the right time for Moffat to move on because he has taken Who as far as he can and needs a new hand on the helm to keep it going. Part of the problem is that people expect Dr Who to be like Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica when it's not ever going to be. The show isn't made for 25 year old Sci Fi fans but a more general audience which does not like what you like.
 

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well someone wake me up when the muppet playing the current doctor leaves.

its impressive really i watched the show since the days of the second doctor, dealt with the obnoxious colin baker performance yet capaldi and moffat managed to kill my interest in the show in the space of capaldi's first 4 episodes
 

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Parasondox said:
Was he behind the Weeping Angels. If yes, he did good there. He has some good hits but has a lot of bad bad poor misses. Doctor Who needs something fresh and new.
He wrote "Blink", which introduce the Weeping Angels, when RTD was the script editor.

He wrote every subsequent story in which they featured, with nobody script editing for him, and ruined them. He's also on record saying he's no idea why the Weeping Angels worked so well.
 

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I hate to hop on the hate bandwagon, but I too am pleased by this. Every interview I've seen of him he's said something that made him come off as kind of a prick, hopefully the next guy is better
 

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Bobular said:
YAY!

I groan every time I see his name pop up in the opening credits.

I actually don't think of Matt Smith as a bad Doctor, but ruined by bad writing.

It just sucks that we won't have a Dr Who series this year.
That is exactly the same as what I would have said. I have high hopes the next guy can bring the series back from the brink of stupid.

I am very excited moffat is leaving: he had an utter contempt for everything done under Russel T Davies and the people who preferred those seasons. It only got worse as time went on and he set out to undo every big event of the Tennant era.

I could keep going on and on about how much I've hated Moffat's run: suffice it to say I finally understand how my mother felt during Star Trek's decline with Voyager and Enterprise.