Sticky aim/aim assist.

[Hashime]

You're not forced to use auto-aim in games. I turn it off and I get comparatively better scores than most people. I don't know what PC gamers are talking about when they claim that their controls are better. To me, their pretty much equal.

In PC gaming you have advantages with a mouse, but all your other controls are unresponsive keys. Why the fuck do I have to augment my hand is such a way to move my hand from 'WASD' so I can reach 'Z' 'X' 'C' or any other strangely placed key just to throw a frigging frag grenade?

The benefit of controllers is that you have all the buttons you're ever going to need and they're all there at your fingertips, literally. The downside being that analog sticks aren't very accurate when aiming, but if you use it enough and tweak the settings right, you'll be just fine.

I would disagree actually, I terms of reaction time I find my keyboard is better because I never have to take my fingers off of the move and aim buttons, there is always a way to hit a key without having to stop moving aiming or shooting. add in macro keys, and inexpensive mice with 10 buttons at you finger tips and the controller is meaning less.
The thing I hate most about console games is having to take my thumb off of the analogue stick to hit a button.
To only genre that does not work on a keyboard is Racing. Racing is impossible without pressure sensitivity.

 

[DigitalSushi]

I'm not a PC elitist. I just happen to be right every time.

Stop passing on your likes and dislikes as fact.

My words are based on experience and logic. You say that you have played shooters on consoles and PC. I take it you played console ports. Real shooter and not some kindergarten games are made primarily for PC. CoD doesn't require any skill on both PC and consoles. Even less on consoles with sticky aim.

Less of the flaming there, just because you want to build a fortress to fling crap at people playing on different systems to you doesn't mean the rest of us actually want to do the same thing.

That's why you prefer it. Doesn't mean it's better. It means the opposite.

hypocrisy? in my Escapist?

"Its more likely than you think!"

It means the game is dumbed down so that everyone can play it and feel good about themselves. Very much like you. To get a full picture of what I'm saying start playing Counter Strike on PC. You wont last a round without dying. FPS on PC is sport. FPS on consoles replaced nap time.

The amount of deaths doesn't equate to how good a game is, the difficulty or the leetness of the player base doesn't equate to how good a game is, its actually about how good the game is.

You're forgetting that you can map the buttons any way you like. Not to mention how good it feels to buy a new mouse and mousepad and kick even more ass. Having actual skill in FPS is a great feeling. It's something console gamers can't really experience.

Logic inbound, right I don't like Keyboard and Mouse for this very reason, I've looked away from PC gaming a few years ago because of several reasons, I just like using a pad.

Why should I have a handicap because some 16 year old just got a Razor Boomslang for Christmas?, fuck that, mouse and keyboard is fun, but its not as immersive as a pad and at least the playing field is leveled.

Also you previous comment about Cross Platform gaming on Xbox360 versus PC with PC being the victor is untrue, in Shadowrun the console users had the advantage because the PC was locked out of any variations in the controls, such as sensitivity.

I had it, it was a fun game.

So in future stop using blanket statements such as your preference as proof or facts mate, its just you like the Keyboard, some people don't, and you can't convert them.

 

[CleverNickname]

Oh, btw, here's a reason for M+KB's immense superiority, especially because of the ability to remap: I'm disabled and literally cannot use WASD, let alone analog-sticks+shoulder buttons. And yet, I can MVP on TF2 as a Scout, breeze through HL2, beat Serious Sam on normal-SP etc.

Thus is the nigh-unlimited might of the Mouse+Keyboard. Bow before it - even if bowing probably takes you half an hour on your clumsy controllers

 

[Lukeydoodly]

Team Fortress 2 on the Xbox has no auto aim. And some people are really good at it.

I rarely turn it off however, it usually helps.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I don't use Aim-Assist. Not only that but I mainly use my PS3 for Vs Fighters, Hack and Slash, and console exclusives (of course). I play CoD on the console, but that's mainly because it is now a console-orientated game, and NONE of my friends are PC gamers. They all use PS3. The thing that I am sick of hearing is "OMG!!!11! THE PAD SUXX HTF CAN U USE THAT PIECE OF S#!T!!?!?!" The pad is better for some, the KB+M is better for some. Personally, if I'm playing an FPS, that is Twitch-Gamer orientated (Eg. CoD), I like my gamepad. More Tactical and precise? (BFBC2) KB+M. And, having grown up on my pad, way back since the SNES, N64 and PS, The pad is second nature to me. I do have one question though. How the fuck can you play Racing or Vs Fighters on a KB+M setup? It drives me insane. Racing, you have no precision to you're turns. You either go "All the way left/right", or "Slam the brakes/Floor the Accelerator". And then there are the Vs Fighters. HOW the fuck can you pull off a Shoryuken on SSFIV on you're arrow keys? Its physically impossible!

TLDR; I like to have both, and pick and choose based on what game I'm playing. Both the Pad and the KB+M have their merits and downfalls, and they are both better suited to different types of games. So please stop slating the pad all of you PC Elitists, because, yes I am a PC gamer, and yes, I full on acknowledge that the pad is just as good.

Or you just plug a wired 360 controller into your PC for the best of both worlds...

 

[Daffy F]

Here is the video in question.


I mean, comon! If that was luck, there is a full on hurricane to make that bullet curve to kill the guy.

Actually, I think it hits while he's turning, ad he in fact continues to turn after he fired the shot, while the hit marker stays on-screen. Something I hate though is people getting all high-and-mighty (I'm not saying this is what you're doing, I'm saying I've met people who are like this) about being a PC gamer, and assume that all Console players are 'tards with no skill... It's just so frustrating. It's about as true as saying that every PC gamer has hacks.

Nah, if you click the nano second you hear the gunshot, it is still atleast an inch off I have it paused were the gunshot sound effect hasn't even finished yet and it's nowhere near.

I am a console gamer by the way. I have played very little on PC, 90% of it is RTS.

Actually, I have noticed this. Only really noticeable with snipers and when it's slowed down in the Game-winning killcam, but I know what you mean... They miss by up to and including (Not kidding) about 6 inches. Which is ridiculous...

 

[ImprovizoR]

Right your a PC elitest and an arrogant prick.

I am not a PC elitist. I'm elitist in every way. It's not individualized to one specific thing. I own a 360 (and 3 games CoD4, GoW2 and RDR). I am arrogant though I don't deny that.

They are based on the fact that your an elitest and automatically think your better then somebody because you play on a different system. Your no different then any other gamer except your an asshole and like to point that fact out.

Again, not a PC elitist. I don't think PC gamers are better or smarter or anything. I do think however that current gen consoles are limiting the advancement of video games. But that's actually the truth. In the old days PC's dictated how the video game industry develops. And because of that it was growing fast with better graphics, new innovative ideas etc. Now it's stagnating until a new generation of consoles emerge.

Coming from a PC elitest who clearly hasnt given console shooters very much time that doesnt mean much. You cant properly judge something that you dont know anything about, it just makes you seem like an idiot.

I played CoD4, Halo 3 and Borderlands. I hated it. I didn't play CoD4 online though. I can't stand the lack of dedicated servers. Halo 3 was fun with friends at first but it's mediocre and other PC FPS games were more fun with friends. Borderlands - no objections there, except that I prefer to play it on PC.

Im not sure if you realised this but counterstrike is so easy to play its a joke. I played on the PC for years its not harder at all in any way. In fact I would actually rate it as easier then alot of current fps games on the consoles.

It is easy to play online. But it also depends on which servers you play. I don't play online very much anymore. I play in leagues for years, and on LAN with friends.

Not everybody likes mouse and keyboard alot of people find it extremely uncomfortable and changing the key mapping doesnt help. Get over your PC elitest attitude and realise the fact that different people prefer different things. Neither PC or consoles is better and coming from somebody who played shooters on both for more then a few years each neither is harder. Iv seen some shots that shouldnt have hit hit and some that are only a 1/8 of an inch above a guys head completely miss.

Again, not a PC elitist. I understand that not everyone can like the same things, but it doesn't change the fact that K+M is better than a controller. Just like Ferrari F50 is a better car than Ford Mustang. But I still prefer Ford Mustang. I am talking about objectively admitting what is better regardless of the personal preference. That's not elitism.

The problem with you pc gamers is that you dont understand that due to lag bullets dont always go where your aiming and your opponent isnt always where you think he is.

Another advantage of dedicated servers (which are possible on consoles by the way). You can hop in a low ping server and you don't have to worry about lag. I hate lobbies and matchmaking. That's why MW2 failed so much harder on PC.

 

[auronvi]

I would have to say that the sticky aiming is what had made Modern Warfare popular. You take that out, all of a sudden there is only like the top 10% of people that can keep their KDR above 1 and everyone else cries and moves to another game that they are "good" at. I just recently re-entered the PC gaming world for FPS and have realized how much skill I have lost because of these damn auto-aim bullsh*t.

I thing it is in Warhawk that lets you, when you make a server, to turn auto-aim off... but these game makers are taking away dedicated servers and we are stuck with how they want us to play the game. I swear, this industry is forgetting about what games are all about.

HAVING FUN!!!

 

[Awexsome]

You're not forced to use auto-aim in games. I turn it off and I get comparatively better scores than most people. I don't know what PC gamers are talking about when they claim that their controls are better. To me, their pretty much equal.

In PC gaming you have advantages with a mouse, but all your other controls are unresponsive keys. Why the fuck do I have to augment my hand is such a way to move my hand from 'WASD' so I can reach 'Z' 'X' 'C' or any other strangely placed key just to throw a frigging frag grenade?

The benefit of controllers is that you have all the buttons you're ever going to need and they're all there at your fingertips, literally. The downside being that analog sticks aren't very accurate when aiming, but if you use it enough and tweak the settings right, you'll be just fine.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Did you know that Microsoft wanted to go cross platform with PC and Xbox 360 but they couldn't because PC gamers kicked console gamers asses? Console gamers couldn't touch PC gamers. PC controls are much more fluid and FPS games are best played on PC. Everyone knows that. You don't move your hand anywhere. It's all in your reach and it's a lot easier and it feels better with a mouse and keyboard. And if some buttons are a little out of reach then you just have to develop some skills.

Dude stop fucking being one of the problems.

Mouse & Keyboard is not better. It's different. A preference that you prefer and in no way is better. I've already reported your other posts for elitist/flamebait and other stuff. An RTS is something that most people would prefer on the PC but FPS's are equal.

Get over it.

 

[Geekosaurus]

I love how the PC gamers always say 'you wouldn't be able to hit anything'. I personally think it would make very little difference.

 

[Midnight Crossroads]

I don't dislike it. I'm not sure how well a shooter would work without using it with a controller, but I suppose people could get used to it.