The game is exactly the same in Steam - it doesn't use any Steam features / matchmaking / friend's list / etc.Ori Disciple said:
Stolen Pixels #139: BorderLAN
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It doesn't have to be... that is the mind boggling part. No I am not talking about the no-dedicated server crap that is being seen. I mean of how bloody simple other, older, MP games have it. This isn't the days of ROTT or something, back before the Internet is invented and home networks where scary and difficult things to operate.Virgil said:
Internet gaming was already simplified to the point a child could connect to game servers, as evident by all those whinny little brats you find in most CS severs. Open the game, click find server, maybe modify some filters if you where 'elite' enough to understand what a filter is, click on a sever and... play.
How hard is it to screw that up?
Bloody easy it seems, so much so we need to remove the option of dedicated servers so those poor game designers can't screw it up any more.
Is valve the only one that understands basic server-client connecting procedures?
Did they patent it or something?
oh god, thats horrible!Shamus Young said:
its almost inconceivable that they could be so lazy about this.
but there it is.
wow
Well thats STEAM though.Jinx_Dragon said:
its pretty simplistic.
I really havent seen much outside of it in terms of online gaming (STEAM fan and all)
so I really cant say if I agree or not to this.
actually, I have used C&C-related online gaming, and thats pretty easy to follow.
it just adds to the fact that the Dev team for Borderlands got lazy about PC online.
Kinda sad, when you think about it. feel sorry for those of you guys and gals that bought it
you'd hope that a really complicated form of making games would encourage sophisticated players.
though it would make them damn frustrated so i guess it would probably cancel out.
though it would make them damn frustrated so i guess it would probably cancel out.
The absolute worst thing about this is that there's a perfectly viable and very easy solution to this that's been in use for somewhere in the neighborhood 15 years, possibly longer: Dedicated Servers.Shamus Young said:
Honestly, just let the players provide the servers. Don't have a connection that can handle a server at your house? You can rent servers from numerous providers. Seriously, this is the same system that TFC and CS used way back in the day, AND IT WORKS!! There is, quite seriously, no excuse for why Gearbox couldn't have just used the same system for Borderlands.
And that's to say nothing of the bugs in the game. The online (lack of) functionality alone would have required a grand total of about 5 seconds worth of testing time to learn that the online mode doesn't work. I'm convinced that they just slapped the game together and then started mass producing it.
So. Bloody. True! As an owner of a PC copy of Borderlands, I can't help but feel abit cheated. Also, you forgot to mention that:Shamus Young said:
* Leaving any menu open whilst in game prevents anyone from transisting to another map, adding another sort of griefing - preventing people from leaving an area where they've already slaughted everything and picked the loot dry.
Yeah, multiplayer in this game reminds me why I hate ports to PC. They're never up to PC standards, and the devs don't seem to find a problem with it. However, I still don't want to play this kind of thing on a console, because splitscreen sucks much worse than port forwarding ever could.
Anyone tried this on Ps3? we tried to get a LAN going on two Ps3s with 4 people, split screening on each, you know the thing halo has been doing for years. it would'nt work, neither would split screen online so we could all play together. for a game so involved in it's multi-player seems like this would be a good feature :S
The sad thing is that Gearbox insists that they built the PC version from the ground up. Yet there are so many console-based inspirations in the entire design that it's hard to not call it a port.daftalchemist said:
I opened a gamespy account yesterday, and have still not been able to connect to absolutely anyone for the Multiplayer experience..
Seems like real proper shit to me.. Also the game in general was not that good really..
Seems like real proper shit to me.. Also the game in general was not that good really..
Hang on, what powers do team damage? There isn't any friendly fire, at all. Even if i shoot a barrel, the explosion only hurts me. The rest of it's true, but there definitely isn't anything that does team damage.
This is one of the biggest fails in recent history for online gaming on the PC. Sounds like video game companies are starting to care less and less about us PC gamers...
"When someone activates a level transition, it pulls everyone else through with them. This opens up the opportunity for griefing."
Well if anyone is in a menu(map, shops, inventory etc) it won't change... So when me and my friends were playing we at times brought up a menu to grief eachother a bit...
Well if anyone is in a menu(map, shops, inventory etc) it won't change... So when me and my friends were playing we at times brought up a menu to grief eachother a bit...
strange how borderlands is the first co-op pc game ive owned that i DONT have a problem connecting to my friend or tother way round
i had the same problem with my brother... tried out gameranger last night, and it worked flawlessly... i recommend it for fairly seamless private borderlands play...swaki said: