In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. It took decades to recover from that conflict. Colonialism requires a basically quiet home front to turn one's attention to expansion overseas, something the US wouldn't do even if they hadn't gone to war because of the massive lands that had yet to be settled within their own borders, some of which remain largely empty even to this day (Wyoming, for example).countkillalot said:First off:
-Time travel to the 1860's
-Have the US governement develop interest in colonialism as to keep the bus for the next few years. Maybe a small conflict with the French in south-east-asia.
No, I just finished making a guide for my ww2 history test, and as I was thinking of the affects ww1 had on America and Europe vs the affects of ww2 ( ie women in europe get rights after the first world war, but American women do not because many American men did not go to war during WW1) and began to think of how to stop ww2, by finding the most important event which could be manipulated.Akyho said:HANG ON!
Are we doing some kids history homework?
Well if WW1 was to happen here is a higher chance WW2 wouldnt have happend
LET HITLER INTO ART SCHOOL!
Then there's no Kellogg-Briand Pact, no the Russian Revolution of 1917 would have never occured and overthrow the government to create the USSR, Japan would not be our greatest ally and may return to a policy if isolationism, the US would have never come to power, and India and other colonies would have never gained Independence.The Unworthy Gentleman said:Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.
There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.
yeah, that's about it. Now, can you stop WW I -without- killing him? Assassination's are generally frowned upon during peacetime.The Unworthy Gentleman said:Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.
There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.
Simple - Start a rally to push Congress to invade Germany at the first sign that they were violating the League of Nations, and nothing was being done. It COULD be done.zombie711 said:stop WWII in as few steps as possible that includes the war in the pacific (Japan, China, USA, and Australia) as well as in europe.
you can do anything that was possible at the time, but only what you as a person could do.
That's not true any more, the total combined death is now a smidge more than that of the civil war.Lord_Beric said:In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. .countkillalot said:First off:
-Time travel to the 1860's
-Have the US governement develop interest in colonialism as to keep the bus for the next few years. Maybe a small conflict with the French in south-east-asia.
I hesitate to say this, but would that necessarily be a bad thing? No USSR = No communist state(maybe. THis is all hypothetical, of course), so no massive asian oppressive state. japan would likely be an isolationist country, it also wouldn't have been rebuilding from having two cities leveled with nuclear weapons and their capital(Is Tokyo the capital? I feel like I should know this without thinking about it...) burned to the ground in a firebombing campaign. The US wouldn't be a superpower, but there might not have even been a need FOR a superpower in the world, and India...I don't know enough about to comment.Hectix777 said:Then there's no Kellogg-Briand Pact, no the Russian Revolution of 1917 would have never occured and overthrow the government to create the USSR, Japan would not be our greatest ally and may return to a policy if isolationism, the US would have never come to power, and India and other colonies would have never gained Independence.The Unworthy Gentleman said:Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.
There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.
hmmm... yes... I suppose you are right... but then there needs to be a way to let the Japanese know it's not cool to be a douche to other countries no matter how many Russians you've drowned. Maybe preemptively put some of said Russians in southeast asia? Alternatively make sure emperor Meiji is really interested in ancient japanese culture and not at all with fancy western modernisms.Lord_Beric said:In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. It took decades to recover from that conflict. Colonialism requires a basically quiet home front to turn one's attention to expansion overseas, something the US wouldn't do even if they hadn't gone to war because of the massive lands that had yet to be settled within their own borders, some of which remain largely empty even to this day (Wyoming, for example).
zombie711 said:That's not true any more, the total combined death is now a smidge more than that of the civil war.Lord_Beric said:In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. .countkillalot said:First off:
-Time travel to the 1860's
-Have the US governement develop interest in colonialism as to keep the bus for the next few years. Maybe a small conflict with the French in south-east-asia.