stop World War 2 in as few steps as possible

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Byere

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Call peace conference promising to hand over the world to Hitler and his regime. Gather all the heads of state and add suicidal fakes for the Allied guys and then nuke the whole area when everyone is waiting for the conference to begin.
 

kasperbbs

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Nuke everything at once! Erm.. That might not end well.
Give some condoms to hitlers dad.
 

Comrade_Beric

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Soviet Union successfully conquers Poland in the Polish-Soviet war of 1919-1921, allowing them to assist socialist revolutionaries in Germany. This could have meant supporting the largely leftist Wiemar Republic, or a socialist insurrection against it, either way producing a Socialist, Russian-backed Germany from which to support other leftist movements in Western Europe.

This prevents "the war" in the west. The war in the East, between Japan and the other states around it may have been inevitable without a massive change of heart from the Japanese. Their new found sense of Nationalism and place in the world as a rising power drove them to emulate the worst attributes of the old European Empires. Even if the Treaty of Versailles hadn't snubbed them by limiting their fleet size, this expansionist nation-state behavior would have led them into conflict with someone eventually, even if the US had never been involved. That said, given my first paragraph, the war could have been won against Japan even without the US given the Sino-Soviet pact having the support of a heavily industrialized state like Germany, if not the rest of Europe.

Stopping Japan from invading other countries would require then to have basically gained a powerful socialist movement to make them focus on themselves instead of outward, something they almost entirely lacked in the first half of the 20th century.

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Comrade_Beric

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countkillalot said:
First off:

-Time travel to the 1860's

-Have the US governement develop interest in colonialism as to keep the bus for the next few years. Maybe a small conflict with the French in south-east-asia.
In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. It took decades to recover from that conflict. Colonialism requires a basically quiet home front to turn one's attention to expansion overseas, something the US wouldn't do even if they hadn't gone to war because of the massive lands that had yet to be settled within their own borders, some of which remain largely empty even to this day (Wyoming, for example).
 

ItsAChiaotzu

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Rigidly enforce the Versailles Treaty. If the pressure had been kept up, there's no way Germany could've invaded anyone.
 

zombie711

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Akyho said:
HANG ON!

Are we doing some kids history homework?

Well if WW1 was to happen here is a higher chance WW2 wouldnt have happend

LET HITLER INTO ART SCHOOL!
No, I just finished making a guide for my ww2 history test, and as I was thinking of the affects ww1 had on America and Europe vs the affects of ww2 ( ie women in europe get rights after the first world war, but American women do not because many American men did not go to war during WW1) and began to think of how to stop ww2, by finding the most important event which could be manipulated.
 

Hectix777

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.

There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.
Then there's no Kellogg-Briand Pact, no the Russian Revolution of 1917 would have never occured and overthrow the government to create the USSR, Japan would not be our greatest ally and may return to a policy if isolationism, the US would have never come to power, and India and other colonies would have never gained Independence.

The most effective way is to never have imposed the entire war debt on Germany. If the US chipped in on some of Germany's war debts Hitler may have never become a dictator but America's greatest ally. One of the big reasons behind WWII was the massive debt we gave them, they just wanted to live good lives. Who knows, maybe Germany would sign with a military alliance with the US combining forces and being prepared in the case that Japan and Italy decide to go to war.

Japan, destroy the militaristic prime minister trope beginning in 1936

Italy...land.
 

ShadowKatt

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.

There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.
yeah, that's about it. Now, can you stop WW I -without- killing him? Assassination's are generally frowned upon during peacetime.
 

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zombie711 said:
stop WWII in as few steps as possible that includes the war in the pacific (Japan, China, USA, and Australia) as well as in europe.
you can do anything that was possible at the time, but only what you as a person could do.
Simple - Start a rally to push Congress to invade Germany at the first sign that they were violating the League of Nations, and nothing was being done. It COULD be done.
 

AgDr_ODST

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severly cut back on the crushing Germans economy part of the treaty of Versaille and get Hitler either killed in WWI or accepted into art school...as for Asia have the US station 10,000 soldiers in Manchuria before launching a preemptive warning strike against Japan. there you go problem solved
 

Scars Unseen

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Step 1: Let the Germans do what they want.


I think that would cover it. Not the best resolution, but it certainly would end the war.
 

zombie711

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Lord_Beric said:
countkillalot said:
First off:

-Time travel to the 1860's

-Have the US governement develop interest in colonialism as to keep the bus for the next few years. Maybe a small conflict with the French in south-east-asia.
In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. .
That's not true any more, the total combined death is now a smidge more than that of the civil war.
 

EBHughsThe1st

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Hard. The war helped my country's (United States) economy get back on track after the great depression.
Of course, if we're not talking butterfly effects, here, just stop the publishing of Mein Kampf. And to do that, I snipe down Hitler from a few towns away.
 

ShadowKatt

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Hectix777 said:
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.

There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.
Then there's no Kellogg-Briand Pact, no the Russian Revolution of 1917 would have never occured and overthrow the government to create the USSR, Japan would not be our greatest ally and may return to a policy if isolationism, the US would have never come to power, and India and other colonies would have never gained Independence.
I hesitate to say this, but would that necessarily be a bad thing? No USSR = No communist state(maybe. THis is all hypothetical, of course), so no massive asian oppressive state. japan would likely be an isolationist country, it also wouldn't have been rebuilding from having two cities leveled with nuclear weapons and their capital(Is Tokyo the capital? I feel like I should know this without thinking about it...) burned to the ground in a firebombing campaign. The US wouldn't be a superpower, but there might not have even been a need FOR a superpower in the world, and India...I don't know enough about to comment.

I suppose the space race might never have happened, which looking back at the 50 year history of NASA, what are we missing there? No cold war, maybe a Korean war. Vietnam....it's a toss up, I tend to think no since again, no military superpower. Desert storm, probably not, likely not actually. And the rest of modern history...I can't speculate. Right now we're seeing a massive islamic expansion, I can't help but think that if the world hadn't grown up with the US as a superpower and their primary ideological opponent(there are many christian nations, but I think the US is the most influential, right behind the Vatican), then islam would probably become the major world religon and along with it sharyia(sp?) it's major dominant law system.
 

countkillalot

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Lord_Beric said:
In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. It took decades to recover from that conflict. Colonialism requires a basically quiet home front to turn one's attention to expansion overseas, something the US wouldn't do even if they hadn't gone to war because of the massive lands that had yet to be settled within their own borders, some of which remain largely empty even to this day (Wyoming, for example).
hmmm... yes... I suppose you are right... but then there needs to be a way to let the Japanese know it's not cool to be a douche to other countries no matter how many Russians you've drowned. Maybe preemptively put some of said Russians in southeast asia? Alternatively make sure emperor Meiji is really interested in ancient japanese culture and not at all with fancy western modernisms.
 

Comrade_Beric

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zombie711 said:
Lord_Beric said:
countkillalot said:
First off:

-Time travel to the 1860's

-Have the US governement develop interest in colonialism as to keep the bus for the next few years. Maybe a small conflict with the French in south-east-asia.
In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. .
That's not true any more, the total combined death is now a smidge more than that of the civil war.

EDIT: Removed because of Excel spreadsheet error. Will replace as soon as the numbers are fixed.

Re-EDIT: Never mind, you might be right. I can't find reliable numbers on the subject. Every website says something different and I can't find my textbook from last year.
 

inFAMOUSCowZ

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I travel back in time, and nuke the shit outta the world. YEAH no WW 1 or 2. Hmmmm I may have to rethink my plan a bit though, it doesnt quite seem full proof.....