Story and Art in Games - NO ONE CARES

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KefkaCultist

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You're not alone. I admit I play art/story devoid games like MW2, but I also play good art/story games like mass effect, fallout, shadow of the colossus, and assassin's creed.
I love video game art, any time theres a chance to get a hard cover art book with a game like that I want it bad. I own Assassin Creed, God of War, and Mass Effect art books
 

Ertol

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I think story and art are very important, it's just some games don't need it. GOW3 pretty much just said screw it and tried to let you kill as many gods as possible, and that was fun. On the other hand a doubt KoTOR would be anywhere near as good if it had a bad storyline or plot twist, same goes for Bioshock.

My issue is when you completly sacrafice gameplay for story, graphics, and art. For example FF12 and 13. I thought they had great stories, mostly enjoyable characters (Vaan...well yeah), and all that worked well. But it was very light in the gameplay aspect. In FF12 all you had to do was initate combat, and the gambit system did the rest. In FF13 you only controlled 1 character and all you had to do was auto-attack. Later on you had to stay on your toes with the paradigm system, but still, there was hardly any character control.

It's fun everyonce in a while to play a game that is more like a book then a game. But at the same time games can't exactly cop out on gameplay. COD dosen't have to do a good storyline because most people just want it for the MP, on the other hand a game play FF or an RPG is all about the story. You sort of need that balance. It's why I love MGS4. Even though the cutscenes are sometimes insanly long, the story is fantastic, and the gameplay is great as well.
 

Mastercylinder

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IMPORTANT ADDITION
You know what? I forgot to mention,I was talking to 2 people about this and they were both girls. It shouldn't change anything but maybe it does(?) Opinions?
 

mega48man

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CoD:MW2 had a story, it had an awesome story, get with the times man.

how about halo reach? just a mindless FPS, right? WRONG!!! i picked up legendary edition today, totally worth it. comes with Dr. Halsey's notebook, the lady who programmed cortana. it's like reading the diary of anne frank but you don't know how it ends instead. THERE'S SO MUCH DRAMA TO, LOVE TRIANGLES, I WAS LIKE "WTF? NO WAY!" so much mystery to. remember the Meta from red vs. blue? the psycho freelancer? his name is in the book, but it's crossed out. also, two pages in the book are ripped out for some reason, i dunno why yet.
the diary also comes with security images, personell files, all this stuff that doesn't quite add but feels like it's part of something much bigger.

the best part is i haven't even taken the plastic wrapping off the game box yet!
 

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My cousin, fifteen, loves playing MW2. However, even he realises how batshit crazy the story was and how broken the MP is. This is an example of a person sharing a demographic with some of the most annoying, rude, and racist players we've ever encountered, but he's none of those things.

It is a damn shame that the vocal 1% misrepresents an entire generation of enthusiast players; like myself, like my cousin, like all of us.
 

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Mastercylinder said:
You know what? I forgot to mention,I was talking to 2 people about this and they were both girls. It shouldn't change anything but maybe it does(?) Opinions?
It doesn't.
 

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mega48man said:
CoD:MW2 had a story, it had an awesome story, get with the times man.

how about halo reach? just a mindless FPS, right? WRONG!!! i picked up legendary edition today, totally worth it. comes with Dr. Halsey's notebook, the lady who programmed cortana. it's like reading the diary of anne frank but you don't know how it ends instead. THERE'S SO MUCH DRAMA TO, LOVE TRIANGLES, I WAS LIKE "WTF? NO WAY!" so much mystery to. remember the Meta from red vs. blue? the psycho freelancer? his name is in the book, but it's crossed out. also, two pages in the book are ripped out for some reason, i dunno why yet.
the diary also comes with security images, personell files, all this stuff that doesn't quite add but feels like it's part of something much bigger.

the best part is i haven't even taken the plastic wrapping off the game box yet!
I'm really talking about people APPRECIATING the story.

Ok. I'm not a fan of Halo and granted there is a story there but
1. No one appreciates it (I can't even understand it)
2. Is this story stuff present in the game?
and art wise, Halo feels kinda bland. IDK.
 

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Serenegoose said:
1: You are never the only person.

Ever. :)
Yep, I'm with you too ;)

It's because most people are sheep, just ready to suckle at some meaningless waste of time that they have no connection with because it's popular and they have nothing else to do in their miserable, empty lives. Ignore them, and be happy to enjoy great games rather than just go "lul headsh0t nub" all day.
 

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Serenegoose said:
1: You are never the only person.

Ever. :)

I care a lot about a games story and art direction. Other people do too. You think people bought Dragon Age because of biowares history of epic combat in their games? :D
speaking of Dragon Age: I don't think it was bought for the high grade graphics either. Ever notice how the women had arms thinner than a poplar branch?

OT; I don't really pay much attention. I don't talk about gaming too much with other people but I am kind of tired of hearing people worship Modern Warfare. Granted Dragon Age and, Mass Effect aren't perfect either. In their defense though, the plots aren't a series of betrayals (unless of course your player character is a total dickhead)
 

Sniper Team 4

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Story, to me, is hands down the MOST IMPORTANT thing in a game. So much so that I have read all the Halo books and Gears of War books. I track down every little thing in games that further the stories. I do everyone's side quests to learn more about them. I look at little details and pick them apart until I have my own story going in my head. Good stories become an obsession for me, to the point where I have to know everything.
I know what type of people you talk about though. I just shake my head and ignore them. I cannot understand how people can leave something unfinished. It would kill me now to know--or care.
 

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Art in a game, it definitely helps but is not required. A story on the other hand, as in one that actually makes me want to play the damn game is a must. See Half Life 2, Mass Effect, and dare I say Halo? take Halo 3 out of the equation and its not bad.
 

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Mastercylinder said:
Maybe this is just me, but whenever I have a conversation with people who I just find out play videogames, When they ask me about any titles I remember liking in the past they immediately give me crap. Sadly, I start to realize no cares how much I liked the story in this game or how cool the art design was for that one and instead it turns into:

Person:"I don't care about any of that. You play COD:MW?"
Me:"No."
Person:"Your stupid, get with the times."

Why is it people don't ever care about the story or art? I know a total of two people maybe three friends who actually do and we can carry conversations about it for HOURS! Is it really just me? Maybe it is just me, because even games I hate or drive me nuts I still play just to enjoy the story or the art style.

Am I alone here? Has this ever happened to you?
ok im gonna go out on a limb here and say your not calling anyone who likes playing COD:MW2 or halo idiots. Ok now anyone who calls you stupid for likeing a games story tell them to try it as you tried MW2. If that doesnt work grab the nearest object and hit them with it:)

Now id like to say that i love my MW2 and Halo Reach games dearly and they do have a story.(though a piss poor one for MW2 ill grant you) That being said my 2 favorte games are Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2:) so not everyone who enjoys mindless FPS games are imbisiles please remember that:)
 

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Serenegoose said:
1: You are never the only person.

Ever. :)

I care a lot about a games story and art direction. Other people do too. You think people bought Dragon Age because of biowares history of epic combat in their games? :D
It's an Am I The Only One in disguise!

OT: Story and art style are important, but not to the point where gameplay should suffer problems because of development in other areas. For instance, I still can't figure out Dwarf Fortress because of the damn ASCII art.
 

mega48man

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Mastercylinder said:
mega48man said:
CoD:MW2 had a story, it had an awesome story, get with the times man.

how about halo reach? just a mindless FPS, right? WRONG!!! i picked up legendary edition today, totally worth it. comes with Dr. Halsey's notebook, the lady who programmed cortana. it's like reading the diary of anne frank but you don't know how it ends instead. THERE'S SO MUCH DRAMA TO, LOVE TRIANGLES, I WAS LIKE "WTF? NO WAY!" so much mystery to. remember the Meta from red vs. blue? the psycho freelancer? his name is in the book, but it's crossed out. also, two pages in the book are ripped out for some reason, i dunno why yet.
the diary also comes with security images, personell files, all this stuff that doesn't quite add but feels like it's part of something much bigger.

the best part is i haven't even taken the plastic wrapping off the game box yet!
I'm really talking about people APPRECIATING the story.

Ok. I'm not a fan of Halo and granted there is a story there but
1. No one appreciates it (I can't even understand it)
2. Is this story stuff present in the game?
and art wise, Halo feels kinda bland. IDK.
WHAT? DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER!!!

there is a HUUUUUUGE story involved with halo reach! there's struggle, mystery, millitary trust, all this stuff! and like i said, i haven't even loaded the game into my xbox yet, i got all that from the journal. like dr. halsey's intimate relationship with jacob keyes, who later becomes the commander keyes we know from halo 1. there was a pretend news article about keyes (jacob keyes daughter from halo 2 and 3) getting commorated, what role does she play in the game? and then there's the article about the suicide bombing, why did that happen? then the 500 million people getting glassed because of aliens, is it forshadowing?

and the art work is AMAZING!!!! THEY WEN'T OVERBOARD ON REACH!!!
look at this comic http://roosterteeth.com/comics/strip.php?id=1717

this is an understatment about how great the game looks.
 

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The only games i skip the story is MMORPG's (except if i find an area or a part of the story that really interest me), or if the storytelling is incredibly bad.
 

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AjimboB said:
I would say that the people you talk to about games are quite immature, or have no appreciation of art. Next time, before you talk to them about a game's art design, ask them what they think about Michelangelo, or Leonardo Da Vinci, and if they are able to carry on a half intelligible conversation, go from there to art design in games.
Oh yeah, that's a good plan. I can imagine it now.

Some Guy: So I was browsing in GAME earlier whe-
You: Hold on a second. Before we continue, what do you think of Leonardo Da Vinci?
Some Guy: What?
You: What about Michelangelo?
Some Guy: I...huh?
You: You're clearly a troglodyte phillistine with no appreciation for art. Goodbye.
Some Guy: ???

Do you actually read what you're saying? Do you have any idea how ridiculous an assertion it is to base one's "ability" to comment on a game's quality based on a pop quiz on 15th/16th century artists?

Twenty years of playing video games? Nope. What you need is useless information about some guys who died hundreds of years back. That is what will qualify you to comment on games. Yup.
 

JourneyThroughHell

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Have you ever seen general public accepting and really caring about artzy movies and books, and preffering them to the standard action fare?

Neither have I. So, why would this surprise you?