Straight Guy in Wafflehouse beat down for homophobic slur

[Bara_no_Hime]

an open palm slap and back hand will generally do the same amount of damage, the difference usually being how much it hurts the attacker, an open palm slap will hurt more just because the palm is more sensitive, thats why it is easier to just backhand someone. but a i cant stress this enough, a slap can be just as dangerous as a punch, its just not as practical to use in a fight,

UK law aside, I have personal experience with slaps of both kinds.

How? I do some Dominatrixing. A palm slap across the face hurts, but does no damage. A back-hand slap of the same force can split a lip and is likely to leave a bruise.

Now, I could see that it would be possible to do an open palm slap so hard that you do some damage with it - although damn, you'd need some upper body strength for that - but a back-hand slap is EASY to do damage without much strength. Knuckles suck like that.

Also, nails and rings can make an open-palm slap much more dangerous.

Anyway, the point being, I've trained a bit in how to cause pain without causing damage (or causing only the damage requested). If I seem to be splitting hairs about this slap thing, that's why. I've never assaulted anyone in an actual fight, so I don't have any knowledge of these things outside a very controlled environment, but I do know that, with a consistent force level, that open palms slaps do less damage than back-hand slaps, because your palm is a lot softer than your bony knuckles. It's like the difference between whipping someone with a soft leather tipped crop and a hard wooden switch. Both are similar tools, with similar leverage, used with the same force, but one (the wooden switch) does a lot more damage.

Oh, and for the record, I find talking about slap physics far more entertaining than talking about the fist fight of the thread topic.

 

[Eri]

The guy was a homophobic asshole. The woman shouldn't have hit him but when he tried to hit her back that wasn't "self defense". He was attempting to retaliate.

This.

People need to remember, self defense only applies if your LIFE is threatened. A slap is not life threatening (unless you have a particularly rare set of diseases), so you can't "punch back" in self defense.

OT: As... stupid as that was, I find it mildly heartening that people were standing up to the homophobe. In a bad and destructive way, yes, but still.

Also, note: I'm at work ATM, so I didn't click the link. I'm only going off of the comments in this thread about what happened. If I got something factually wrong, then that's why.

Actually it is self defense. You can't just assume someone who attacks you is going to stop, that's the kind of stupid thinking that gets someone killed. The fact he got jumped only further cements the point.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

How? I do some Dominatrixing.

How YOU doin'?

Do you make a good buck doing that? There was a time my girlfriend toyed with the idea, but there wasn't a lot of real motivation there. Also, in all honesty, she'd probably be terrible at it. She doesn't have a dominant bone in her body.

As for open handed slaps, I think it would pretty much depend on whether or not you put your hips into it and had a strong wrist. A little stinger is really nothing to get worked up about, but I'm willing to bet a strong guy could break some bones with an open hand.

 

[jollybarracuda]

There's just so many issues in this video. The guy shouldn't be so close-minded against homosexual people. The lady shouldn't have slapped the guy for a conversation she didn't have any part in. The guy probably had the right to try and slap her back (you know, equality and stuff), but the homosexual guys really shouldn't have started "beating up" on the guy.

Everyone just needed to chill.

 

[PureChaos]

I don't suppose there was any chance he was just trying to order his meal?

But yeah, that beatdown was a bit uncalled for. Especially, since he was hit first.

Pork faggots are SO good, especially with lots of gravy

 

[Relish in Chaos]

Well?we don?t know the whole story. Is this guy really a homophobe, just for spouting a couple of homophobic slurs in what looks like a heated argument? And who initiated the argument? Not that I want to play the victim-blaming game, but couldn't it have easily been a scenario where the gay guys could've insulted him and he reflexively retaliated at their weak spot?

Either way, whatever this straight guy said doesn?t justify him being outnumbered in a five-on-one (or similarly numbered) beatdown like that, no matter how funny that Thousand Hand Slap was.

 

[DaWaffledude]

I'm tempted to say he had it coming... But beating him up won't actually achieve anything.

 

[Nantucket_v1legacy]

That was disgusting.
Nobody should be subject to that kind of attack. They should have told him to shut the hell up and then ignored him - if he had continued I could understand giving him a slap but that? Wow... that was viscous. But at least it was only slaps - I imagine it stung his pride more than caused any real damage.

 

[twistedmic]

Check 13 seconds again - looks like he fired the first shot, but the contact was covered by one of the other guys' backs.

The woman still could have hit first, or tried to hit him and he knocked her hand away. We don't know for sure since we couldn't see the actual exchange.

 

[Stabby Joe]

I'm actually take more issue with the comments in the link.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

How? I do some Dominatrixing.

How YOU doin'?

Do you make a good buck doing that? There was a time my girlfriend toyed with the idea, but there wasn't a lot of real motivation there. Also, in all honesty, she'd probably be terrible at it. She doesn't have a dominant bone in her body.

I'm doing well, thank you for asking.

Also - I didn't say professionally. I'm an amateur - ie, not paid - dominatrix. Just for the fun of wearing a corset and whipping people with various objects. And, tempting as it would be to try to find a job as a dominatrix (as I hear the pay is pretty good), I'm a bit worried that it might interfere with my career as a teacher. For now, I'll have to be satisfied whipping students through the comments I put on their essays.

And finally, I'm not incredibly dominant, but I do have fun causing pain. So less dom, more sadist. Although I can put on a fairly haughty act when I'm properly into it.

 

[Agayek]

Also, has anything good ever gone down in a Wafflehouse? I feel like if any story has, "And then we went to Wafflehouse, it's gonna end bad"

Dude. Wafflehouses sell waffles. By definition, anything that occurs within those walls cannot end poorly, as it always ends with someone eating one or more waffle(s).

 

[kickyourass]

While the guy's clearly a massive shit head, and certainly deserved a good smack upside the head, I don't think this was really called for. As others pointed out she attacked him first, if any ass kicking was to be had it should've stayed between these two and the police.

 

[WanderingFool]

That wasn't a beating, they slapped him.

Slapped.

Who the fuck slaps?

Appearently, those guys.

Did he have something coming to him, yeah, but thats just overkill.

 

[elvor0]

mmm, I'm in two minds about this. On one hand he was a hate mongering fuck, deliberetly antagonising a group of guys, and deserved a smack in the teeth for that, (but not a complete four on one beatdown, that's just overkill) but on the other, the girl starting attacking him. If you want to attack someone, you shouldn't try and hide behind the guise of "I'm a girl" If you attack someone, you should be prepared for them attacking you back. Otherwise you're a malignant coward.

How? I do some Dominatrixing.

How YOU doin'?

Do you make a good buck doing that? There was a time my girlfriend toyed with the idea, but there wasn't a lot of real motivation there. Also, in all honesty, she'd probably be terrible at it. She doesn't have a dominant bone in her body.

I'm doing well, thank you for asking.

Also - I didn't say professionally. I'm an amateur - ie, not paid - dominatrix. Just for the fun of wearing a corset and whipping people with various objects. And, tempting as it would be to try to find a job as a dominatrix (as I hear the pay is pretty good), I'm a bit worried that it might interfere with my career as a teacher. For now, I'll have to be satisfied whipping students through the comments I put on their essays.

And finally, I'm not incredibly dominant, but I do have fun causing pain. So less dom, more sadist. Although I can put on a fairly haughty act when I'm properly into it.

Yes I do feel that may end rather badly, on the part of the "TEACHERS CAN NEVER DO STUFF IN THEIR OWN PRIVATE TIME!!!!!!111!" brigade. Although, I love your comment about marking the essays, most amusing

But yeah, you're totally right about the whole back/palm slap thing, makes perfect sense really, tissue vs knuckle.