Student kills intruder with sword

[Vuljatar]

I seriously doubt an unarmed burglar posed much of a threat, especially to someone with a sword.

Would you seriously be willing to take that chance, if you were in his shoes? How would he be able to tell if the man was armed or not until after the fact?

When your life is on the line, you shoot (or swing) first and ask questions later.

EDIT: Plus, we know that the burglar was a repeat offender with a history of armed violence. In 2007 he pulled a gun on a police officer!

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Why do people think this kid is going to prison? we live in America if your life is threatened you may save your own with lethal force if needed.

Because he cut off the man's hand. That is pretty much deadly force and that was his first blow, he then proceeded to make a gash in the mans chest. He probably would bleed out in a couple of minutes from the hand, and then the gash on the chest he probably didn't last a minute or two at most. This is on top of fact the man was for all intents and purposes, unarmed for he didn't brandish a weapon in turn.

 

[bluepilot]

That was a realy stupid thing to do

An even stupider thing to go to prison over.

Hardcore and badass but nevertheless, stupid

 

[[Gavo]]

I think he'd get off on self defense, although the hand chop off is a bit over the top.

 

[Gigaguy64]

Haven't heard of that one.
That kid's going to prison though.

he was defending himself and his property, i thinks it a crazy awesome.
though i wouldent kill the guy.(mostly cuz my katana's wooden.)

 

[Osloq]

Not sure if this would count as self defence. If he cut the guy's hand off chances are he'd be down. That doesn't happen and you keep trying to beat up someone, you're on the ground weeping as blood pools. There is a good chance that he would have died from blood loss or shock if he wasn't taken care of but that would have been classed as self defence. The cut to the chest and the guy's murder (that's right I said it) were unnecessary and should be treated as such.

I'm also a bit suspicious about what went down. Why the hell would you attack someone with a katana? Even if you're the biggest crack head ever you're not going to try and hit someone with bare hands if they have a sword. The whole thing is fishy.

 

[Osloq]

he lost his hand. And sounds like he was unarmed.

Yes, that's right.

You could say...

**Puts on sunglasses**

...the burglar was un-armed.

YEEAAAAAAAAAAAH!

**Takes off sunglasses**

looks like someone needs to go to the second hand shop

**Sweet ass music plays**

 

[Coldsnap]

I'm also a bit suspicious about what went down. Why the hell would you attack someone with a katana? Even if you're the biggest crack head ever you're not going to try and hit someone with bare hands if they have a sword. The whole thing is fishy.

He probably figured the young kid would be to afraid or wouldn't know how to use the weapon and was just bluffing. He also might have figured the surprise move of going after some one with a sword would work to his advantage.

 

[Skeleon]

What if hitting him over the head with a bat causes his death? What if tackling him causes him to smack the back of his head against a wall, and he dies?

Then that'd be an accident.
Cutting a guy's hand off and slicing his thorax is far more dangerous and everybody knows it.

(guess you missed the part where he was ATTACKED by the thief, and could have been killed himself)

There was no mention of a weapon on the thief. I doubt he was in mortal danger.

 

[Mr. Purple]

he lost his hand. And sounds like he was unarmed.

Yes, that's right.

You could say...

**Puts on sunglasses**

...the burglar was un-armed.

YEEAAAAAAAAAAAH!

XD Didnt realize I said it that way. How clever of you.

 

[Vuljatar]

(guess you missed the part where he was ATTACKED by the thief, and could have been killed himself)

There was no mention of a weapon on the thief. I doubt he was in mortal danger.

How was he to know that?

You should always assume that someone who is burglarizing your house--and then ATTACKS YOU--is armed, and react accordingly. The appropriate reaction is immediate and total incapacitation, which in this case happened to lead to death. I would say "unfortunately", but considering the burglar had a history of violent armed crime I for one am glad he's dead.

 

[Skeleon]

How was he to know that?

Well, he charged at him. Without a knife or anything. Use your eyes before slaughtering another human being.
Where does it say he committed violent armed crimes? Maybe some other article?
Because in this one, the guy apparantly was into stealing stuff.

I know that most of you disagree with me on this. Still, to me it's a sick idea to slice a guy open over some playstations.
It's the old black'n'white-thinking all over again.
Criminal =/= murderer.

He was stupid for freaking out and running at the katana-guy, sure.
If that's how it happened, anyway. Honestly, I doubt it. You see a sword in a guy's hand, you don't run at him. Maybe he tried to run past him. Or he didn't run at all.
Maybe this katana-guy had the same idea of "property is more important than human life" that you guys are spouting.
Trouble is, the only other witness is dead so I doubt we'll ever find out for sure.

 

[Vuljatar]

The burglar had previously threatened a police officer with a gun.

Anyway, you are totally missing the point. This isn't about "some playstations", the burglar attacked the student. When a criminal is lunging at you, are you going to take the time to perform a thorough visual inspection to ensure he has no weapons? No, your life is on the line and you need to take him out one way or another. If he ends up dead, it's no-ones fault but HIS, he attacked you, not the other way around.

If the student had hesitated, the headline could very well read "Burglar kills student with his own sword".

 

[Guitar Gamer]

way to go crazy sociopath collage guy! he should have said a cheesy line after

 

[AutumnGold]

brutal

 

[PlasticPorter]

hey you can defend your home from invasion however you see fit if you believe that your life is in danger. And this dude just was released from prison and was in someone else's house without permission. he was a burglar

 

[Skeleon]

If the student had hesitated, the headline could very well read "Burglar kills student with his own sword".

Why the fuck did he take a sword with him?! A sword that's capable of cutting off limbs?!
This guy sounds seriously loony, I bet he was itching to slice something that bleeds. Sorry, THIS IS NOT PROPER SELF-DEFENSE, this is manslaughter.

 

[Spartan Bannana]

As far as I know, in my state you have a legal right to kill someone who attacks you or intrudes on your property, and I think it should be the same everywhere. And let me ask the court system this, if the kid hadn't used a sword and had been killed instead of the burglar, wouldn't the world be worse off? An innocent kid survived because of "excessive force" if it had gone the other way an innocent kid would be dead and a burglar would still be on the loose.

 

[Vuljatar]

If the student had hesitated, the headline could very well read "Burglar kills student with his own sword".

Why the fuck did he take a sword with him?! A sword that's capable of cutting off limbs?!
This guy sounds seriously loony, I bet he was itching to slice something that bleeds. Sorry, THIS IS NOT PROPER SELF-DEFENSE, this is manslaughter.

That's a stupid fucking assumption.

I assume he used the sword because he didn't have a gun. But then again, if he'd had a gun you'd probably be even more upset.

The burglar attacked an innocent man who was capable and willing to defend himself. The criminal lost the fight, and died. Was the student in the wrong? Not in the slightest.

 

[Skeleon]

Was the student in the wrong? Not in the slightest.

And that's exactly the point where I disagree, because you don't just kill another human being like that. He basically slaughtered him. I'm all for self-defense but it has to be proportional to the threat you're under.