Student Protest
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My parents (who I will invetibly repay) pay about $8000(5000pounds) a year to study in Australia, but they pay more like $6800(4000) because we do it early and upfront (getting a discount).
There's always a point in creating a stir to get media attention, but it really doesn't have to be violent, just streaking down a busy street with paint on yourself about your topic is enough, or getting people dressed up as penguins or polar bears for global warming is always fun, there's a whole range of things that can be done in non-violent ways that get the media's attention.
Hey! In Australia there's the Zombie walk, and it's about 2000 people (usually, lately growing) and that's just about raising awareness and funds for a bone disease.
Hey! In Australia there's the Zombie walk, and it's about 2000 people (usually, lately growing) and that's just about raising awareness and funds for a bone disease.
Raising the price that University will charge will turn it into an 'Elitist' establisment as I would call it (I'm there already luckily able to skip the majority of the money increase) where only the rich and privileged can afford to attend without getting stuck into debt for a depressing amount of time.
Also last I heard also from my tutor the goverment is actually handing out £5000 fines for a course that 'over-caps' on students which is why my current course (held in a college working with a nearby Uni.) is being scraped and we are the last year, can anyone confirm that one for me? :/
If I can use my case as an example, I don't drive, drink, smoke go out much to pubs. Pretty much all I own is my laptop and Xbox + the games I have a job and I luckily can live at home and still get into Uni so I don't need the maitenence loan. I am currently on my course the person who has the largest amount of money yet I still cannot afford to pay off even one year of my course without going bankrupt and yet we are only paying 1/3 of the purposed amount of money the goverment wants the universities to be able to charge. I really don't think the Goverment has a clue or has put into scope the idea of how much money they think we have to be able to pay off £9000 a year and still find a place to live and eat.
So I have to question the Goverment we have at the moment, Wales helps their students out, Scotland University is free I believe so if they can afford that why triple the cost here?
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Also last I heard also from my tutor the goverment is actually handing out £5000 fines for a course that 'over-caps' on students which is why my current course (held in a college working with a nearby Uni.) is being scraped and we are the last year, can anyone confirm that one for me? :/
If I can use my case as an example, I don't drive, drink, smoke go out much to pubs. Pretty much all I own is my laptop and Xbox + the games I have a job and I luckily can live at home and still get into Uni so I don't need the maitenence loan. I am currently on my course the person who has the largest amount of money yet I still cannot afford to pay off even one year of my course without going bankrupt and yet we are only paying 1/3 of the purposed amount of money the goverment wants the universities to be able to charge. I really don't think the Goverment has a clue or has put into scope the idea of how much money they think we have to be able to pay off £9000 a year and still find a place to live and eat.
So I have to question the Goverment we have at the moment, Wales helps their students out, Scotland University is free I believe so if they can afford that why triple the cost here?
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I think most student protests are a combination of the following factors:
- The inability to grasp the reality behind adult decisions.
- Immaturity.
- A mindset that Rage Against the Machine was/is cool.
- That the hippies in the 1970's were/are role models.
Usually they are half-assed gestures at getting something they otherwise lack a true understanding about.
- The inability to grasp the reality behind adult decisions.
- Immaturity.
- A mindset that Rage Against the Machine was/is cool.
- That the hippies in the 1970's were/are role models.
Usually they are half-assed gestures at getting something they otherwise lack a true understanding about.
Exactly this. You get those people who just like to be all anarchic, and it spoils the whole point of a damn protest.Lord Mountbatten Reborn said:
I'm sure the majority of students there had the basic common sense to know that causing mayhem would probably convince MPs we're pretty much savage apes and shouldn't be in higher education at all. Then they'd raise fees without second thought, which is surely the opposite of what every student wants.
It's a major protest in Britain. This was going to be an eventuality. Shame, because other than that it looked like a blast. Wish I could've gone.
hmm... fair enoughArsen said:
I went to a crappy uni and realized it wasn't worth final debt, the lecturers were lazy and disorganized and the students were all as dumb as the ones I knew in school who never even gained qualifications
Now, looking at education from the outside... it doesn't often transfer to real life at all :/
There was a protest back in ATL about them raising the tuition prices and supposedly there was a large number of people that turned up. Peaceful demonstrations are only useful if you want the change you specifically want but at a slow pace. If you want your results sooner but probably suffer some consequences then go with limited violence.
Oh so you ONLY have to pay $15000 a year for university? Suck a fat one. Any state university in America costs at least $20,000 depending on which state; Mine $30,000.Kirkby said:
*edit: whoops, I did the math wrong. For some reason I thought you meant Euro which I rounded to $1.50.
**Edit2: Asked wolfram alpha, came to $14530.
You lucky bastards.
A pound is usually around $1.60~$1.85 IIRC.ninetails593 said:
OT: Here I thought that the Western European countries had an understanding as to the importance of education for the masses. For shame, British people who want this.
Oh, aren't these students the ones who will be contributing the most to the social welfare programs (via taxes) when the current workforce (the ones who, I'm guessing, are behind this bill) is retired?