Student Suspended for wearing a dress.

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GraveeKing

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This.
Reaper195 said:
Ah, the US. Land of the free indeed.
and this:
Reaper195 said:
Ugh, I hate this world at the moment.
I actually knew a guy who WOULD wear dresses to college (different I know but still), and this wasn't part of some just he was just... well very feminism, don't ask. Point being is, despite a few pokes here and there he had plenty of friends (yes guys as well as girls) and nobody even questioned it.
Here, someone doing it for a JOKE gets suspended? This utterly sickens me.
 

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Merkavar said:
i just dont see anything wrong with what he did. if he wants to wear a dress and high heels does it really affect anyone? i just dont see why they even tried to suspend him.
I think the main issue is that it's distracting.
i cant see how this guy wearing a dress is any more distracting than the 100s of girls wearing skirts and tops that barely covered anything. or was high school different in america and allgirls wear burkas or something similar.
 

Raeil

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A suspension for wearing a dress? You've got to be kidding me. Hell, my high school had an entire "gender-bender" day where half of the school participated (with extremely hilarious results). Of course, parents were idiots and complained to the school, so there hasn't been another one since, but no one got suspended over it. As a matter of fact, we had two transgendered students (I believe they were MtF) wearing dresses to prom last year (according to my former principal, as I graduated two years ago). Whether or not this was intended as a social statement, the fact remains that the school took inappropriate action against a student because he was defying normal gender roles. Hopefully they learn from this, and stop their idiocy.

Also, it can be argued that this is a distraction. However, if it is a distraction for a male to wear a dress, then the school must not discriminate based on gender and must instead ban dresses entirely, not just force this student to choose between wearing his dress and suspension...
 

Cavouku

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Now, of course I'd think it was odd for a man to be wearing a dress around school.

So would practically everyone else in said school.

But... that'd probably be it. The punishment is nothing more than laughter and finger pointing, but aside from that, I think everyone would just say "Oh man, that guy was hilarious." and treat it like a prank, teacher's and officials included.

Is my school just laid back? Well, maybe a bit, but other than a few "The hell?"'s, I don't think this deserves an official punishment.

I mean, a few guys in my art class more than once went next door to the fashion tech room and put on a dress for laughs. There were no suspensions.

...I'm seeing the issue, sure, but the punishment doesn't really fit the crime, this is more of a social cause. Not usually something covered by the higher ups.

EDIT: After giving the story a good read over... I have found almost no change in my opinion. Sure, the guy was reprimanded before, for similar things, but the mother had a point about it being written down. No hats, sure, we've come to accept that, and the same could be for dresses if it was written down. But it was still a joke, so... not feeling the hate.
 

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As a guy who has friends who have WORN girl's clothes, My objection to men wearing lady's clothing isn't on some bullshit moral platform. My objection is that most men just don't look good in women's clothing (at least the fellows I know). Most girls can pull off a more 'masculine' look, but a dude wearing high heels and a skirt? No thanks. Go ahead and wear it, just don't get pissed if I say you don't look good wearing it. Plain and simple, my problem is on aesthetic lines, and that's where I'll stay.
 

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I think the suspension was a bit harsh. It was a no harm no foul deal. He wasn't intentionally offending anyone, so why punish him for it? Now, on the other hand, they could say that "it was for his own protection". Kids are cruel. If any homophobic or gay-bashing individual saw him wearing that dress, they're going to target him. Just a thought.

*EDIT* "I looked pretty." I would've absolved him for that line alone.
 

Azure Knight-Zeo

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Why can't the rest of the world be more like Scotland? There the men know they're so manly they can ware skirts(/kilts) in public without anyone batting an eyelid. Which leads me to my main belief, "the status quo is overrated".
 

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JacobShaftoe said:
Wow. Wouldn't happen in Australia... I ended up at a highschool without a uniform, but it had a dress code. The dress code forbade any "offensive" clothing. So one day I pushed it a bit by wearing my "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" Tshirt. The vice principle took me to the principles office over it, and the principle calmly asked him if he happened to be a nazi punk, or if we had any at the school. When he answered no, she asked how it could be offensive to anybody other than a nazi punk. He fumed and stormed out. I still lol over that :)
That's so awesome.

Pre-Columbine, my sister wore a T-shirt that effectively said "Kill God. Your Mom & Dad. Kill Yourself." on her freshman yearbook picture. Shit wouldn't fly now though. Let's see how far we've come indeed.

 

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Well that's ridiculous. What a lovely message to send to a young boy, "associating with anything feminine is shameful and requires punishment". What if he had actually been trans? School would have had a lawsuit on their hands.

Labyrinth said:


Note: the "you" is directed at people who display that attitude.
I love that image.
 

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LetalisK said:
Shoqiyqa said:
Meh. If some girl wants to get covered in acid, hacked with machetes and set on fire, who are we to stop her?
So I take it you think suicide should be illegal?
technically, suicide is illegal. In the U.S. at least. If you attempt it, you don't go to jail, but you can be confined to a hospital before you're considered not a danger to yourself. Tho, you don't go to jail, attempting suicide is technically illegal.

On another note about the whole thing. I find it ridiculous that this happened. I know in our school a kid ended up having a sex change operation. Let them be who they want to be. Whether it was a dare out of joking or a dare out of him actually being transgender, let him be who he is. Don't change that..
 

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Danish_4116 said:
I don't think it's enough to deserve a suspension, but there is the possibility of people taking it too far.

Case in point, there's a guy at my Uni who walks around in a Japanese school girl uniform.
Complete with:
Massive tie thing.
Pigtails.
Mini-skirt.
Hello Kitty back-pack
Knee-High socks.
Beer belly.
Hairy Man-legs.
Hairy Man-arms.
Beard.

Nothing illegal with it, but still disturbing as hell to look at.
its still no big deal right? i mean some people have faces that are disturbing to look at but they don't exist to be pleasing to my viewing plate and if i don't wanna look i can just not look. (besides iv seen worse i had the bad judgment of browsing /b/ a few times)
 

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angryscotsman93 said:
As a guy who has friends who have WORN girl's clothes, My objection to men wearing lady's clothing isn't on some bullshit moral platform. My objection is that most men just don't look good in women's clothing (at least the fellows I know). Most girls can pull off a more 'masculine' look, but a dude wearing high heels and a skirt? No thanks. Go ahead and wear it, just don't get pissed if I say you don't look good wearing it. Plain and simple, my problem is on aesthetic lines, and that's where I'll stay.
im sure no one would be mad at you for that, really thats fine but you dont have to make it a point to tell anyone you think doesn't look good that they, you know dont look good (thats kinda being a jerk)

and again they don't exist to be pleasing to your viewing plate

im gonna be a little shallow and admit i can't bare to look at fat people there so gross but i would never say to there face you fat and ugly.
 

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double-standards... my pet peeve...

seriously, i love how when girls wear boy clothes it's "gender equality" but if a boy wears girl clothes it's "wrong" :mad:
 

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Labyrinth said:
Ohhhh yay, masculinity. Women are congratulated for wearing pants while men are vilified for wearing dresses. I think it's screwed up and fundamentally flawed.



Note: the "you" is directed at people who display that attitude.

So what if he did it as a dare, or as a statement, or for attention? One could argue that it's a valid protest if he's doing it aware of the background of transphobia and gender roles. In fact, I think we should be encouraging men to wear clothes gendered female. More skirts for men!
Agreed with the picture, 120%.

OT: If I'm allowed to buy my clothes from the mens' department[footnote]They have better cargo pants and Star Wars tee shirts.[/footnote] then what exactly is the difference?
 

Dags90

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DuctTapeJedi said:
Double post, my apologies.
You damn well better apologize for a common forum error! I'm starting to think you might be....Canadian! *dramatic chipmunk*
AlexNora said:
its still no big deal right? i mean some people have faces that are disturbing to look at but they don't exist to be pleasing to my viewing plate and if i don't wanna look i can just not look. (besides iv seen worse i had the bad judgment of browsing /b/ a few times)
OMG. I'd love to see that. "Steve Buscemi's son kicked out of school for being a 'distraction'."