Study finds reason for games addiction

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Aerialfrogg

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In a quote from one of their experts
"but if you've got... that vulnerability or susceptibility to addiction that will keep you in the game probably far in excess of what the normal person would do."

Bottomline, money is being spent to research:
People susceptible to addiction are likely to get addicted to things.

I hate when research dollars are wasted like this.
 

FallenTraveler

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believer258 said:
FallenTraveler said:
If you think that people that get addicted to drugs are weak willed, you need to look around you. People that get addicted to drugs have to try incredibly hard to get off of it. Then, every single minute of every single day of the rest of their lives is spent trying to stay away from drugs. It takes a very strong sense of will and motivation to stay away from things you are addicted to.
sorry if I was unclear, I agree, people who become addicted need strong will to get off and stay off, but I mean trying the stuff in the first place. I give credit to addicts who get off the stuff, but they were weak willed to get hooked in the first place.
 

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manythings said:
You can induce psychological dependency and compulsions with the right tricks. Video game addiction exists in the same way as TV addiction, work out addiction (Bigorexia) and even addiction to buying shit.

EDIT: Also thinking it has anything to do with a "Weak will" or being stupid is fucking stupid in and of itself.
You have no basis for that final statement. Having a weak will can certainly work to tip the scales from habit to obsession to addiction, as a person becomes increasingly dependent on the subject of the habit/obsession/addiction. A weak will is simply an unwillingness to go without the comfort of a psychological addiction, or an unwillingness to deal with the withdrawal symptoms of a physical/chemical addiction.

You cannot just "wish away" the psychological component of addiction, which comes straight down to a person's willpower. Willpower is a skill that can be taught and bolstered... or neglected and atrophied. Recognizing this isn't the same as "blaming" every addict for their addiction, or removing all compassion for the addict. It's simply recognizing that the subject of the addiction isn't always the root cause for the addiction.

Using techniques of conditioning, you can induce new habits and automated responses, and some of these can become addictions. You can't, however, make someone addicted. You can provide the environment and reinforcers, sure, but that's about it. You might cite any number of experiments done with animals to demonstrate the kind of control conditioning can have, but you forget that we, as people, have access to something those animals do not--the ability to recognize and resist manipulation, if we are willing.
 

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I game instead of learning a lot.
Why?
Cause, for whatever vaguely discernible angsty teenager reason, I simply cannot give a fuck about my marks. I'm still mostly 3-4 (the Hungarian grade system goes 1-5, 1 being the worst etc) with a bunch of 5s. But I don't learn shit. I'm just good at using the stuff I catch on lessons. If my mom didn't keep telling me to start learning already and get good marks (we have a lot of arguments), I'd probably just drop outta school.
Thank god she's around to tell me that.

If I was more social, I'd go and hang out with friends and go to parties and such. But I am very shy, and shittily adjusted to social interaction. Not that I don't keep trying, or that I am particularly disliked (I'm mostly accepted, far as I can tell): I just feel incredibly unconfortable around people. Which sucks monkey balls, let me tell you.

I have no idea why did I just post all that shit. (or maybe I do?)
 

Jabberwock xeno

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Yes, you can be addicted to games, much like how one can be addcited to reading books, combing their hair, or drawing.

IE:Barely, if not no more addicting then most other things.
 

LightOfDarkness

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GamesB2 said:
I'm confused as to whether I'm addicted... I easily game for 50+ hours a week but I can easily stay away from pretty much all technology for a few weeks or longer.

STUDY THAT ONE, BBC PEOPLE D:
Addiction: When it feels like you can't survive without a constant use of whatever you're addicted to.

You are not addicted.

The_ModeRazor said:
I game instead of learning a lot.
Why?
Cause, for whatever vaguely discernible angsty teenager reason, I simply cannot give a fuck about my marks. I'm still mostly 3-4 (the Hungarian grade system goes 1-5, 1 being the worst etc) with a bunch of 5s. But I don't learn shit. I'm just good at using the stuff I catch on lessons. If my mom didn't keep telling me to start learning already and get good marks (we have a lot of arguments), I'd probably just drop outta school.
Thank god she's around to tell me that.

If I was more social, I'd go and hang out with friends and go to parties and such. But I am very shy, and shittily adjusted to social interaction. Not that I don't keep trying, or that I am particularly disliked (I'm mostly accepted, far as I can tell): I just feel incredibly unconfortable around people. Which sucks monkey balls, let me tell you.

I have no idea why did I just post all that shit. (or maybe I do?)
Wow your life is a perfect mirror to mine.
Except I, for whatever reason, am a sponge for almost anything verbal and can pass tests with flying colors.
 

drbarno

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Actually having just watched that, I noticed they focused on MMO's (WOW the most) who are probably the worst abusers of the skinners box.
 

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Cylos Treh said:
Guess what else compels people to stay glued to it for a long time... Everything that is classified as leisure activity! if we didn't have this feeling of not wanting the fun to go away, people wouldn't have hobbies. Basing it solely on video games is an incomplete study.
Everything gets classified as an addiction nowadays anway, but yes this.

Either we need to stop calling calling them shopping addiction, gaming addiction, gambling addiction, etc. or we need to invent a new word for REAL addictions like heroin and cocain.
 

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I was watching about 7 mins of the bbc program and I had to turn it off because it made me so angry!

The people in the studies have no idea what they are really talking about and they are baias to the extent of nearly calling liking games a form of disese!

Us as gamers (excuse the word) are not disesed because of games our lives are better, yes there are thouse among us whatb have played a game so much you physically can't (not juding that has happend to me) playing a game so much that your hand sezes up!

But it doesn't mean we need to go to rehab because of it!

Maybe the people who made this program could go and watch our ExtraCredits and then they may think differntly!
 

SovietSecrets

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"It's one thing to think 'okay, I'm playing too much,' but it's another to just stop playing, because some games are designed in a manner that you just don't want to leave."

It is one thing to make up random bullshit so parents can get wet and have another reason to stop their kids gaming, but its another thing to actually think for a second the reason gamers play so much is because it is fun to play. Amazing isn't it?
 

LightOfDarkness

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veloper said:
Cylos Treh said:
Guess what else compels people to stay glued to it for a long time... Everything that is classified as leisure activity! if we didn't have this feeling of not wanting the fun to go away, people wouldn't have hobbies. Basing it solely on video games is an incomplete study.
Everything gets classified as an addiction nowadays anway, but yes this.

Either we need to stop calling calling them shopping addiction, gaming addiction, gambling addiction, etc. or we need to invent a new word for REAL addictions like heroin and cocain.
Sadly, there are people who are actually addicted to all of those. Not the fake OH HERP DERP WE'LL JUST CALL IT ADDICTION CUZ DEY DO IT SO MUCH but actual I MUST DO IT OR I CANNOT BE NORMAL addictions, and the media apparently can't tell the difference.
 

Mcupobob

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Gaming is fun so of course its the evil of the world. Anything fun is apparently evil, sex,smoking,drinking,gaming,eating,facebook,shopping, porn, and ect ect. I think theres been a news piece on just about every one of those. Sure they're bad when you don't take them in moderation 'cept smoking and drinking, and junk food but whats wrong with a little sin? A vice to get us through those hard days as long as you show self control?

Seem ridiculous that they're making a t.v show about it, seems some people have a vendetta against gaming or something.
 

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As I posted in the other threads on the topic In all I thought that this wasn't too bad, only a few things that rankled with me, such as trying to apply South Korean Culture to the UK. There are clear differences in emphasis between the two countries and i feel this could have been made more clear. Also I had hoped more would be made of the lengths family members should be going to help deal with the problems.
In addition, the online resources that were mentioned at the end were fairly useful, if sparse.

On a lighter note , I was sitting laughing at the warhammer posters on one of the british gamers walls as i kept looking to the left and seeing the same posters.
 

Amishdemon

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By the logic that the industry creates games you can't pull yourself away from any good company is making addictive products also. I mean isn't that how they make money?
 

Dogstile

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Its hilarious. Especially because its not real addiction. Drugs, now that's where your'll find addictions.