Sugar=Mutations?

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martin's a madman

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dubious_wolf said:
uhhh did you know eating ages/kills you? yep sure enough eating food will cause you to age so if you want to stay young don't eat. simple.
You see your body produces these molecules which humans have appropriately named free radicals. these molecules are produced when the mitochondrion in your cells produce ATP energy molecules from sucrose molecules. Free radicals are basically Oxygen atoms with too few electrons, if your remember any old basic chemistry class you would know that atoms seek equilibrium between the number of electrons protons and neutrons. When these free radicals are released into a cell they latch on and steal electrons from other molecules making them unstable. This process can cause a chain reaction that can rip cells to pieces. Then those destroyed cells need to be replaced, so other cells divide to fill in for the dead cell, this causes the cells to age.
Now how does this tie into the current discussion? well these free radicals can come into contact with DNA which is a molecular structure which is delicate and highly susceptible to being destroyed by free radicals. Thus technically by definition any piece of destroyed or altered DNA is a mutation... So eating sugar = mutations...
yeah most of the scientific world had known this fact for a while.
so why don't we stop trying to scare the shit out of people, and focus on something important like how to end world hunger?
End world hunger? Are you mad? Then everyone will grow old!
 

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martin said:
End world hunger? Are you mad? Then everyone will grow old!
awe shit you're right... well that just means ill have to become a doctor and buy shares in several big pharmaceutical companies. then i can treat all the old peoples. I'll be rich!!!
 

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martin said:
End world hunger? Are you mad? Then everyone will grow old!
awe shit you're right... well that just means ill have to become a doctor and buy shares in several big pharmaceutical companies. then i can treat all the old peoples. I'll be rich!!!
Don't do that! You need to help me develop a new form a sustanance that doesn't age people! Two solutions, we could kill them so they don't have the time to age. Or convert the entire population to energy and laugh?
 

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Why is every change in a contemporary human physical form always a mutation? Do we see ourselves as THAT perfect that any change ever has to be a mutation.? Even in our media like with the X-men, they get extraordinary powers making them better than humans but are they are mutants. However, in this particular case something that lowers an immune system strikes me as a de-evolution. Now, knowing that Australia now has the most over weight people in relation to its population it could be an elaborate move of propaganda to actually help benefit the people by using words with such stigma as mutation.
Well I think you need to check your definition of "mutation"

The changing of the structure of a gene, resulting in a variant form that may be transmitted to subsequent generations, caused by the alteration of single base units in DNA, or the deletion, insertion, or rearrangement of larger sections of genes or chromosomes.
that's from the New Oxford American Dictionary

Mutations have a bad connotation in our society. This in my opinion is tragic... In natural selection mutations can lead to an increase in a species fitness.

Also killing people would be counter productive...
converting them to energy would be funny but also counter productive...
besides i want to make a lot of money...
 

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So basically I am forever fat because my parents ate tons of sugar before I was born?

Sounds sensical, but I refuse to believe in such ridiculous claim for some reason.
 

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martin said:
Why is every change in a contemporary human physical form always a mutation? Do we see ourselves as THAT perfect that any change ever has to be a mutation.? Even in our media like with the X-men, they get extraordinary powers making them better than humans but are they are mutants. However, in this particular case something that lowers an immune system strikes me as a de-evolution. Now, knowing that Australia now has the most over weight people in relation to its population it could be an elaborate move of propaganda to actually help benefit the people by using words with such stigma as mutation.
Well I think you need to check your definition of "mutation"

The changing of the structure of a gene, resulting in a variant form that may be transmitted to subsequent generations, caused by the alteration of single base units in DNA, or the deletion, insertion, or rearrangement of larger sections of genes or chromosomes.
that's from the New Oxford American Dictionary

Mutations have a bad connotation in our society. This in my opinion is tragic... In natural selection mutations can lead to an increase in a species fitness.

Also killing people would be counter productive...
converting them to energy would be funny but also counter productive...
besides i want to make a lot of money...
Haha that was my point. About the stigma surrounding the word Mutation. Evolution is nothing but a string of mutations.
 

saibot216

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I think this is a hoax. When they said "Sugar Hit" it made it sound like sugar was a drug.
 

Dr Ampersand

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*Eats a tub of honey* AMPERSAND SMASH! I'm the Hulk! Rawwrr!

Still the article seems a bit misleading.
 

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martin said:
dubious_wolf said:
martin said:
Why is every change in a contemporary human physical form always a mutation? Do we see ourselves as THAT perfect that any change ever has to be a mutation.? Even in our media like with the X-men, they get extraordinary powers making them better than humans but are they are mutants. However, in this particular case something that lowers an immune system strikes me as a de-evolution. Now, knowing that Australia now has the most over weight people in relation to its population it could be an elaborate move of propaganda to actually help benefit the people by using words with such stigma as mutation.
Well I think you need to check your definition of "mutation"

The changing of the structure of a gene, resulting in a variant form that may be transmitted to subsequent generations, caused by the alteration of single base units in DNA, or the deletion, insertion, or rearrangement of larger sections of genes or chromosomes.
that's from the New Oxford American Dictionary

Mutations have a bad connotation in our society. This in my opinion is tragic... In natural selection mutations can lead to an increase in a species fitness.

Also killing people would be counter productive...
converting them to energy would be funny but also counter productive...
besides i want to make a lot of money...
Haha that was my point. About the stigma surrounding the word Mutation. Evolution is nothing but a string of mutations.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh my bad oops sorry. I can be kinda dim sometimes
 

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dubious_wolf said:
martin said:
dubious_wolf said:
martin said:
Why is every change in a contemporary human physical form always a mutation? Do we see ourselves as THAT perfect that any change ever has to be a mutation.? Even in our media like with the X-men, they get extraordinary powers making them better than humans but are they are mutants. However, in this particular case something that lowers an immune system strikes me as a de-evolution. Now, knowing that Australia now has the most over weight people in relation to its population it could be an elaborate move of propaganda to actually help benefit the people by using words with such stigma as mutation.
Well I think you need to check your definition of "mutation"

The changing of the structure of a gene, resulting in a variant form that may be transmitted to subsequent generations, caused by the alteration of single base units in DNA, or the deletion, insertion, or rearrangement of larger sections of genes or chromosomes.
that's from the New Oxford American Dictionary

Mutations have a bad connotation in our society. This in my opinion is tragic... In natural selection mutations can lead to an increase in a species fitness.

Also killing people would be counter productive...
converting them to energy would be funny but also counter productive...
besides i want to make a lot of money...
Haha that was my point. About the stigma surrounding the word Mutation. Evolution is nothing but a string of mutations.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh my bad oops sorry. I can be kinda dim sometimes

No worries, I made some mistakes in my wording. The fault is mine.
 

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I must ponder this...
Considering, after all, the body tends to break down most complex foods into some form or other of sugar I guess we are pretty screwed as a species if this is really bad for us... How did we manage to get this far *Gasp*.
 

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Glefistus said:
I was sipping a Pepsi during that. TBH, I don't see how that is possible, what does Sucrose do, cleave the Hydrogen bonds in your DNA? This seems far-fetched, but I would certainly be all for getting to the bottom of this. If any finds relevant information, please post here.
Is what I am wondering too... how exactly does it mutate things on a DNA level. Really now, what chemical reactions are happening during the reproduction phase of DNA, the most vulnerable stage, thanks to the introduction of sugar into the blood stream? All I can find, when I search even the so called 'institutes' pages on this matter is that one quote from that one guy who said 'this mutates you.'

Tell me how, exactly how does this alter our DNA patterns!
 

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Fat Man Spoon said:
Holy shit.

I'm gonna start eating a LOT more sugar.
Yeah! You can be X-MAN!

What would be your X-man name? The Insulinator? Or perhaps "Give me a Minute to catchup" man!
 

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This article was written by Margaret Furtardo, huh? More like MARGARET RETARDO! (sorry, i had to that)

"That's according to a recent Australian study published in the Journal of Experimental Medicine"

Australian study....that explains it all.
 

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I wouldnt call it mutations, it just changes how your cells work temporarily not like it unzips your DNA structure and starts causeing massive mutations more commonly caused by mutenagens such as tobacco and asbestos.