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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/20/4541304/superman-batman-warner-bros-2015

This could be a film of The Dark Knight Returns. Henry Caville returns as Superman, but Bale is done as Batman. Zack Synder is directing, Nolan as producer, and David Goyer writing. Looks like the DC Universe is going to be started very soon,

Seeing as I loved Man of Steel...this could be awesome, what other DC films would you like to see? I think they could do Flash with Ryan Gosling as flash fairly well, plus I'd like to see a rebooted Green Lantern. Snyder could do justice to Wonder Woman too.

Moviebob is not going to be happy though.
 

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I'm pretty meh on the whole thing.

I didn't like a lot of the aesthetic choices in Man of Steel, so I don't really think that Synder was a great choice for the director. Everything in the movie was just too muted, and while that fits Batman well enough a Superman movie should be bright and vibrant.

I'm also not excited for David Goyer to be writing the script since I thought the script for Man of Steel was pretty much all around awful.

Snyder does do action scenes very well though, so I guess I have that to look forward to, if nothing else.
 

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I'm pretty meh on the whole thing.

I didn't like a lot of the aesthetic choices in Man of Steel, so I don't really think that Synder was a great choice for the director. Everything in the movie was just too muted, and while that fits Batman well enough a Superman movie should be bright and vibrant.

I'm also not excited for David Goyer to be writing the script since I thought the script for Man of Steel was pretty much all around awful.

Snyder does do action scenes very well though, so I guess I have that to look forward to, if nothing else.
I well I thought the complete opposite. I thought Snyder did a great visual design for the Kryptonians. In the original films they just had a weird "crystal" thing, and in the comics their art style is all over the place, so I liked the interesting Kryptonian visual design, with the elders governing it, the Reaper like spaceships, the cool looking military masks, and the flying about metal visualisation technology.

The script wasn't anything special but for me it made Superman likeable for once. When he was first learning to fly, that was a really cool moment and actually made me want to be Superman for the first time in my life. And overall the script was much better, or on a similar level to the various Marvel films (please tell me Iron Man 1/2, Thor and The Avengers had better plots...nope you can't).
 

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endtherapture said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
I'm pretty meh on the whole thing.

I didn't like a lot of the aesthetic choices in Man of Steel, so I don't really think that Synder was a great choice for the director. Everything in the movie was just too muted, and while that fits Batman well enough a Superman movie should be bright and vibrant.

I'm also not excited for David Goyer to be writing the script since I thought the script for Man of Steel was pretty much all around awful.

Snyder does do action scenes very well though, so I guess I have that to look forward to, if nothing else.
I well I thought the complete opposite. I thought Snyder did a great visual design for the Kryptonians. In the original films they just had a weird "crystal" thing, and in the comics their art style is all over the place, so I liked the interesting Kryptonian visual design, with the elders governing it, the Reaper like spaceships, the cool looking military masks, and the flying about metal visualisation technology.

The script wasn't anything special but for me it made Superman likeable for once. When he was first learning to fly, that was a really cool moment and actually made me want to be Superman for the first time in my life. And overall the script was much better, or on a similar level to the various Marvel films (please tell me Iron Man 1/2, Thor and The Avengers had better plots...nope you can't).
Iron Man 1 and The Avengers had better plots, or at least more consistent plots. Man of Steel was just all over the place, and you can easily tell exactly where the different rewrites happened. I mean of course the movie had some cool parts, but some cool parts a good movie does not make. Like I said, the movie was just all over the place.

And I thought that the visual design for the Kryptonians was really boring and incredibly over-designed, although I really did like their ships.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Iron Man 1 and The Avengers had better plots, or at least more consistent plots. Man of Steel was just all over the place, and you can easily tell exactly where the different rewrites happened. I mean of course the movie had some cool parts, but some cool parts a good movie does not make. Like I said, the movie was just all over the place.

And I thought that the visual design for the Kryptonians was really boring and incredibly over-designed, although I really did like their ships.
The Avengers had a horribly messy plot though. Aliens invade. Why? Because aliens. Conflict? Why? Because they needed conflict. Hulk is always angry except when he has to have a fight with Thor because of the plot. Aliens instantly die when separated from Mothership. No idea why Loki is involved with the mysterious aliens.

And Thor's plot was basically a non plot and I can't remember what even happened. Man of Steel is superior to both. THe plot was simply but I think it worked for me.
 

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In the picture of the announcement, the Batman logo is vastly different from the one in BB/TDK/TDKR so I assume it will be a reboot of Batman entirely, hopefully with a tone similar to the Arkham Asylum/City video games.
 

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Big_Willie_Styles said:
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I didn't like a lot of the aesthetic choices in Man of Steel, so I don't really think that Synder was a great choice for the director. Everything in the movie was just too muted, and while that fits Batman well enough a Superman movie should be bright and vibrant.
I keep hearing this criticism. Why does a Superman movie have to be bright and vibrant? I would much prefer an origin where Superman has to come to terms with who he really is and the morality at play than when where he just automatically accepts it. I want the man to come off conflicted in his upbringing. "Man of Steel" did this. Superman is usually such a boring character due to him being nigh invulnerable (to reference The Tick.)
And the things you just mentioned? Yeah, they have nothing to do with aesthetics, which is what I was talking about.

You can have a story where superman comes to terms with his upbringing and yadda yadda, and not have the entire movie be grey and brown with dark and muted colors and boring visual design.
 

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Liza Minelli and Joel Grey read about the announcement and made a song about it.
Forty years ago.

 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Big_Willie_Styles said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
I didn't like a lot of the aesthetic choices in Man of Steel, so I don't really think that Synder was a great choice for the director. Everything in the movie was just too muted, and while that fits Batman well enough a Superman movie should be bright and vibrant.
I keep hearing this criticism. Why does a Superman movie have to be bright and vibrant? I would much prefer an origin where Superman has to come to terms with who he really is and the morality at play than when where he just automatically accepts it. I want the man to come off conflicted in his upbringing. "Man of Steel" did this. Superman is usually such a boring character due to him being nigh invulnerable (to reference The Tick.)
And the things you just mentioned? Yeah, they have nothing to do with aesthetics, which is what I was talking about.

You can have a story where superman comes to terms with his upbringing and yadda yadda, and not have the entire movie be grey and brown with dark and muted colors and boring visual design.
I agree however ill put it simply. gotham is a dark industrial city based on crime and coruption hence why the tone is much darker in the batman movies yet metropolis is more of corporate city without the same emphasis on crime hence why its a brighter more vibrant place

Edit: OT id love to see a stand alone flash movie
 

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The fact that it is apparently inspired by The Dark Knight Returns worries me a little. I hope it's a team up and not a Batman VS Superman flick, because honestly, when they do that, whoever wins that, will piss off a lot of fans either way... And I'm sick of the VS Debate anyway, they're both good guys, have them team up against a big bad guy.

I hope they gloss over Batman's back story, we don't need another origin flick.
 

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Big_Willie_Styles said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
Big_Willie_Styles said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
I didn't like a lot of the aesthetic choices in Man of Steel, so I don't really think that Synder was a great choice for the director. Everything in the movie was just too muted, and while that fits Batman well enough a Superman movie should be bright and vibrant.
I keep hearing this criticism. Why does a Superman movie have to be bright and vibrant? I would much prefer an origin where Superman has to come to terms with who he really is and the morality at play than when where he just automatically accepts it. I want the man to come off conflicted in his upbringing. "Man of Steel" did this. Superman is usually such a boring character due to him being nigh invulnerable (to reference The Tick.)
And the things you just mentioned? Yeah, they have nothing to do with aesthetics, which is what I was talking about.

You can have a story where superman comes to terms with his upbringing and yadda yadda, and not have the entire movie be grey and brown with dark and muted colors and boring visual design.
You just wanted the colors to be more vibrant? That just seems like a nit-picky criticism. I thought you were talking about the aesthetics as they related to the script, not the visual ones.
Do...do you know what aesthetics are? Using big words you don't understand doesn't make you look smart.

Enlighten me my friend, exactly how do aesthetics relate to the script?
 

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Snyder said in a statement provided by The Hollywood Reporter. "Let's face it, it's beyond mythological to have Superman and our new Batman facing off, since they are the greatest superheroes in the world."
hhahahaha!

Batman isn't even superhumam. He just like us moral fucks and superman could squash him like a bug.
 

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Superman is boring.

There, I said it.

I predict this will be a disaster.

Please hollywood, prove me wrong!
 

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Big_Willie_Styles said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
Big_Willie_Styles said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
Big_Willie_Styles said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
I didn't like a lot of the aesthetic choices in Man of Steel, so I don't really think that Synder was a great choice for the director. Everything in the movie was just too muted, and while that fits Batman well enough a Superman movie should be bright and vibrant.
I keep hearing this criticism. Why does a Superman movie have to be bright and vibrant? I would much prefer an origin where Superman has to come to terms with who he really is and the morality at play than when where he just automatically accepts it. I want the man to come off conflicted in his upbringing. "Man of Steel" did this. Superman is usually such a boring character due to him being nigh invulnerable (to reference The Tick.)
And the things you just mentioned? Yeah, they have nothing to do with aesthetics, which is what I was talking about.

You can have a story where superman comes to terms with his upbringing and yadda yadda, and not have the entire movie be grey and brown with dark and muted colors and boring visual design.
You just wanted the colors to be more vibrant? That just seems like a nit-picky criticism. I thought you were talking about the aesthetics as they related to the script, not the visual ones.
Do...do you know what aesthetics are? Using big words you don't understand doesn't make you look smart.

Enlighten me my friend, exactly how do aesthetics relate to the script?
Aesthetics can apply to things that aren't strictly visual, sir. It applies to taste as well. The word is used interchangeably with certain other words. It is also a branch of philosophy. When you apply aesthetics to film theory, you get the whole scope of film. I thought you were implying the tone, not the overall visual look (which I didn't have a problem with.)
You're right, aesthetics do apply to things that aren't purely visual, and have different meanings in different contexts, but it's universally accepted that when people are talking about aesthetics in regards to a film they are primarily talking about cinematography. The movement of the characters, colors, lighting, camerawork, editing, etc. Aesthetics in movies, tv, theater, all have to do with the presentation of the work. So saying "aesthetics" in regards to the movie does imply the visual look.

Essentially the aesthetics of the movie are what the director is responsible for, and the tone is what the writer is responsible for.