Supernatural in Real Life?

[martyrdrebel27]

This is a subject I've wanted to discuss with people before, but never really had a great reason, small ones here and there. unexplained, seriously vicious animal attacks on Indian Reservations, things like that. But then, I restarted the series, and I found something worth sharing.

Season 1, Episode 4-Phantom Traveler. A demon possesses pilots and causes them to crash their planes, each time exactly 40 minutes into the flight. The explanation is that biblically speaking, 40 is a symbol of death.

Well, I remembered a story I had heard earlier this year and look up the flight time of a real life similar incident, Germanwings flight 9525. And I swear my heart stopped a second when I saw it. exactly a 40 minute flight. It took off at 10:01 CET and crashed at 10:41.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525#Flight

it got me thinking, I should try to crowdsource this info, see if any of you noticed any other similarities.

if nothing else, it's a hell of crazy coincidence.

 

[Queen Michael]

As far as I know, 40 is related to trials and testing in the Bible, not death. Also, there's always going to be some plane that crashed after forty minutes, after over a century of air travel.

 

[DefunctTheory]

if nothing else, it's a hell of crazy coincidence.

It's not even coincidence. With how many planes that have flown and crashed, its pretty much a statistically certainty that at least one crashed roughly 40 minutes after taking off.

Are you seriously looking truth from the show Supernatural, or just trying to find some 'lol so similar' stuff? Because you'll find a whole lot of one if you look hard enough, and absolutely nothing if you look for the other.

 

[martyrdrebel27]

if nothing else, it's a hell of crazy coincidence.

It's not even coincidence. With how many planes that have flown and crashed, its pretty much a statistically certainty that at least one crashed roughly 40 minutes after taking off.

Are you seriously looking truth from the show Supernatural, or just trying to find some 'lol so similar' stuff? Because you'll find a whole lot of one if you look hard enough, and absolutely nothing if you look for the other.

haha, obviously i'm not looking for truth in it man, i'm not a crazy person. just cool kinda meta-reality fan-fictioning. mostly just looking at boring real life through a spectacular lens, imagining if all the weird things that bump in the night were all somehow real.

 

[martyrdrebel27]

As far as I know, 40 is related to trials and testing in the Bible, not death. Also, there's always going to be some plane that crashed after forty minutes, after over a century of air travel.

I was just quoting what they said in that episode, that 40 was about death.

 

[Thaluikhain]

haha, obviously i'm not looking for truth in it man, i'm not a crazy person. just cool kinda meta-reality fan-fictioning. mostly just looking at boring real life through a spectacular lens, imagining if all the weird things that bump in the night were all somehow real.

IMHO, there's a lot of weird real things that isn't well known that's much more interesting than the made up stuff. For example, lots of lesser known extinct (or extant) animals are much more interesting than your Bigfoot stuff.

 

[madwarper]

I'm thinking this is nothing more than a mere coincidence.

I should try to crowdsource this info,

You might not want to do that. Just in case someone left a Tibetan spirit sigil lying around somewhere... Wouldn't want to make a Tulpa.

 

[BoogieManFL]

The trouble of things like this that with a large enough sample size and specifically looking for a certain commonality you can come to all kinds of crazy conclusions.

How many people died within an hour of eating a hamburger on a Wednesday? If that information was somehow available you'd probably be surprised how many times it may have happened, probably car accidents but it doesn't mean they are at all related.

You could also say cities with more police have more crime, so maybe police cause crime. etc etc.

It's not exactly the same but the principal is there. IMO if supernatural stuff was absolutely real and common as some would have you believe, it would already be common knowledge. With as much recorded history we have and the size of our population we'd just know. It would just be another part of life. And we'd have irrefutable video evidence. Cameras are EVERYWHERE.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Cameras are EVERYWHERE.

The inclusion of high quality digital cameras in virtually every cell phone (And thus, what, 90% of the first worlds population's pockets?) has pretty much killed every modern mythological creature or event. It's mind boggling that something like ghost or big foot could exist, and be encountered by human beings, and yet somehow manage to avoid being captured in a non-blurry-piece-of-shit video.

I mean, the chances of such things was absurdly unlikely before the cell phone camera, but now? Please.

 

[FFHAuthor]

I mean, the chances of such things was absurdly unlikely before the cell phone camera, but now? Please.

A point that I love to bring forward myself, that the expansion in quality and accessibility of high quality recording devices has not resulted in an increase in the quality and quantity of evidence of cryptid creatures.

I simply LOVE watching Bigfoot/Ghost/UFO/Paranormal shows where they have the high end camera crew with HD equipment that only shoots the reaction shots of the PEOPLE. Rather than turning and filming the incredible sight of Bigfoot, or a UFO or a full body apparition that's literally RIGHT BEHIND THEM...something that might earn them accolades and respect of the scientific and paranormal research communities at the same time.

 

[Hoplon]

Well i went in a totally different direction, i mean in real life this would be two brothers in a car crusing around killing homeless people because they thought they where demons.

 

[martyrdrebel27]

Cameras are EVERYWHERE.

The inclusion of high quality digital cameras in virtually every cell phone (And thus, what, 90% of the first worlds population's pockets?) has pretty much killed every modern mythological creature or event. It's mind boggling that something like ghost or big foot could exist, and be encountered by human beings, and yet somehow manage to avoid being captured in a non-blurry-piece-of-shit video.

I mean, the chances of such things was absurdly unlikely before the cell phone camera, but now? Please.

I like how lore attached to various supernatural entities has evolved over time to explain such things. "why can't we record ghosts?" "oh, ghosts mess with electronic devices. it's lucky, ghosts were existing thousands of years before electronic devices were even dreamt of, and just happened to have that effect."

Well i went in a totally different direction, i mean in real life this would be two brothers in a car crusing around killing homeless people because they thought they where demons.

damn, that's dark. but yeah, you could definitely edit that show to be about two guys who travel the country torturing and killing people to sate their growing psychoses. then they meet up with a guy who has a mental breakdown and abandons his family because he claims he's an angel, it fits the insane narrative they've accepted, so they let him tag along. then a writer hears about these two brothers travelling the country and murdering people and decides to throw a creative spin on it thinking "what if these guys really WERE hunting demons?" the writer is a struggling, whoring drunk, so when the murdering brothers show up on his doorstep and claim they're crusaders for good, what choice does this broken man have but to believe them, and therefor reinforce his own methods of accepting what's around him.

so that's it, Supernatural is the story of serial murder, mental illness, and co-dependence.

 

[Gatx]

This is a subject I've wanted to discuss with people before, but never really had a great reason, small ones here and there. unexplained, seriously vicious animal attacks on Indian Reservations, things like that. But then, I restarted the series, and I found something worth sharing.

Season 1, Episode 4-Phantom Traveler. A demon possesses pilots and causes them to crash their planes, each time exactly 40 minutes into the flight. The explanation is that biblically speaking, 40 is a symbol of death.

Well, I remembered a story I had heard earlier this year and look up the flight time of a real life similar incident, Germanwings flight 9525. And I swear my heart stopped a second when I saw it. exactly a 40 minute flight. It took off at 10:01 CET and crashed at 10:41.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525#Flight

it got me thinking, I should try to crowdsource this info, see if any of you noticed any other similarities.

if nothing else, it's a hell of crazy coincidence.

I love looking up stuff like this, though mine are usually a bit more conspiracy theory/alien/urban legend bent. Numbers stations, Cicada 3301, John Titor, the deep web, the Hum. Stuff like that that's both weird, actually exist, and not 100% explained. It's fascinating and makes mundane life feel a little more like the Secret World.

Things to try googling: weird youtube channels, weird websites or weird subreddits. They could always be jokes, ARGs, part of some kind of marketing scheme or maybe some disturbed individual trying to turn you on to the truth of this world.

 

[Something Amyss]

I was just quoting what they said in that episode, that 40 was about death.

Yeah, that's one of the problems here. It's hard to do Supernatural in the real world when Supernatural does the real world so poorly.

You should probably spell things out better in the OP. "Supernatural In Real Life" as a title means it's hard to distinguish the show Supernatural from the word supernatural.

I like how lore attached to various supernatural entities has evolved over time to explain such things. "why can't we record ghosts?" "oh, ghosts mess with electronic devices. it's lucky, ghosts were existing thousands of years before electronic devices were even dreamt of, and just happened to have that effect."

(keep in mind this next part in no way indicates I believe on ghosts)

Well, except ghosts have been described throughout history in terms completely relevant to electromagnetism, so it's not even so much that it's lucky. Hell, ghsots as a psychic manifestation wouldn't show up on film, either. That concept ain't exactly new, either. Far as I can tell, ghosts showing up on camera was an opt-in concept that started wth attempts to photograph them.

Now, you want to explain why vampires or werewolves or Nessie doesn't show up on camera....

Media has to explain why this is an issue more than real life. After all, we can safely rationalise that most of the footage is faked. Only the piece we want to believe is real needs to be. Supernatural has over 200 episodes, and has to explain why the world wasn't completely rocked by the end of season 1. Why? Because it has to take the position that the events are real.

IMHO, there's a lot of weird real things that isn't well known that's much more interesting than the made up stuff. For example, lots of lesser known extinct (or extant) animals are much more interesting than your Bigfoot stuff.

Hell, marsupials are more interesting than Bigfoot.

A point that I love to bring forward myself, that the expansion in quality and accessibility of high quality recording devices has not resulted in an increase in the quality and quantity of evidence of cryptid creatures.

And what we see still looks like it was filmed on a cheap (for the period) 1970s camcorder. Like, lower quality than my first smartphone.

 

[Zen Bard]

You sort of have it backwards. Supernatural (which used to be my favorite show) used "real" Urban Legends (The White Lady, The Jersey Devil, Bermuda Triangle, etc...) as the basis for its first two seasons.

Eric Kripke, the show's creator was always fascinated by that kind of thing. So he conceived an "On the Road" type show where two people would wander around America investigating tall tales and modern myths.

The Winchesters were supposed to "book end" Urban Legend of the week type stories until the production staff noticed the chemistry between Padelecki and Ackles. Then they shifted the focus to the brothers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_(U.S._TV_series)

 

[DoPo]

Now, you want to explain why vampires or werewolves or Nessie doesn't show up on camera....

Well, a lot of lore about vampires has them not show up in mirrors. So, this concept could be expanded to not showing up on pictures, either.

The most frequent explanation about mirrors is that they lack souls, and as such, also a reflection - however, we do know that mirrors don't really work that way - still, it's a concept that shows up relatively frequently. Sometimes, it's a plain old supernatural limitation placed on vampires - they are weird and hence there is weird stuff around them. Lack of reflection being one of them - this is even simpler to attach to cameras.

 

[Something Amyss]

Well, a lot of lore about vampires has them not show up in mirrors. So, this concept could be expanded to not showing up on pictures, either.

The most frequent explanation about mirrors is that they lack souls, and as such, also a reflection - however, we do know that mirrors don't really work that way - still, it's a concept that shows up relatively frequently. Sometimes, it's a plain old supernatural limitation placed on vampires - they are weird and hence there is weird stuff around them. Lack of reflection being one of them - this is even simpler to attach to cameras.

The mirror thinkg is based on oldschool superstition. Also, without being able to verify the soul (it's an unfalsifiable claim), we don't really know it doesn't work that way. Maybe that lamp behind me in the mirror also has a soul. >.>;

But more seriously, the photography thing is an outcropping specifically of the mirror used in film photography. While it's certainly true there are still a number of people who rely on traditional SLR or even point and shoot film cameras, the influx of digital cameras which do not rely on a mirror becomes a problem for internal consistency. But then, maybe optical sensors also detect souls. <.<;

 

[martyrdrebel27]

This is a subject I've wanted to discuss with people before, but never really had a great reason, small ones here and there. unexplained, seriously vicious animal attacks on Indian Reservations, things like that. But then, I restarted the series, and I found something worth sharing.

Season 1, Episode 4-Phantom Traveler. A demon possesses pilots and causes them to crash their planes, each time exactly 40 minutes into the flight. The explanation is that biblically speaking, 40 is a symbol of death.

Well, I remembered a story I had heard earlier this year and look up the flight time of a real life similar incident, Germanwings flight 9525. And I swear my heart stopped a second when I saw it. exactly a 40 minute flight. It took off at 10:01 CET and crashed at 10:41.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525#Flight

it got me thinking, I should try to crowdsource this info, see if any of you noticed any other similarities.

if nothing else, it's a hell of crazy coincidence.

I love looking up stuff like this, though mine are usually a bit more conspiracy theory/alien/urban legend bent. Numbers stations, Cicada 3301, John Titor, the deep web, the Hum. Stuff like that that's both weird, actually exist, and not 100% explained. It's fascinating and makes mundane life feel a little more like the Secret World.

Things to try googling: weird youtube channels, weird websites or weird subreddits. They could always be jokes, ARGs, part of some kind of marketing scheme or maybe some disturbed individual trying to turn you on to the truth of this world.

tell me you saw the Gadgetzz video then! right up your alley! and creepy as hell.

 

[Mudman1234]

All I'm getting from this thread is that there are Supernatural fans on The Escapist. This pleases me.