Switzerland might make incest legal.

[Vryyk]

this is so wrong, the chances of any child being born with no problems is minute. and legalising it is paramount to encouraging it.
come on Switzerland, get your crap together

Actually I believe the chance of defects only goes up a tiny amount. Google the statistics if you don't believe me.

 

[Vryyk]

As known, there is no protection which is failproof.

Condoms are supposedly 99.8% effective (1/500 failure rate) while most birth control is around 99.9% effective (1/1000 failure rate). Stack the two and we're talking like a 1/500,000 failure rate, considering how few people would choose to practice this the risk is pretty tiny.

 

[spartan231490]

Oh ho ho ho....no. No this is a bad idea. Look, I know we like to be all permissive on this website but the damage to children from even one incident of inbreeding is massive.

what damage? are you talking about pedophilia? because they are considering decriminalizing intercourse between two consenting adults who are related, not children. are you talking about actual inbreeding as in reproduction, because that i kinda agree with. something should be done to ensure they don't reproduce, but if they want to have protected sex, i don't see how it's the concern of anyone else.

 

[rockyoumonkeys]

this is so wrong, the chances of any child being born with no problems is minute. and legalising it is paramount to encouraging it.
come on Switzerland, get your crap together

Actually I believe the chance of defects only goes up a tiny amount. Google the statistics if you don't believe me.

The chances of defects only really go up with each generation.

Two siblings having a kid together, the chances are pretty small, but if they have two kids and then those two kids have a kid, the chances go up, and so on.

It works like this: everyone has certain defects in their genes, though in most cases they're recessive, so they don't show. Not everyone has the same defects, so those defects tend to stay recessive with non-related couples.

Mate two people with the same recessive defects, and the chances of any of those defects appearing go up. Whether they're related or not. It's just that related couples have ALL the same defects in their genes, so the odds of any ONE of those defects appearing will go up.

So while the chances of relatives having a flipper baby are technically higher, they're still not very high in the first generation, and it's only gonna happen if you have the flipper baby gene already.


I'm trying to come up with a metaphor involving bingo cards, but it's not completely accurate.


To put it another way, if you created a family with perfect genes (no recessive defects), they could mate with each other nonstop without end and never have a defect baby. Not sure this is technically possible though.

 

[zHellas]

You might also wanna look up a guy called Oedipus. Didn't turn out pretty for the poor motherf*&ker.

Oedipus was the first ************!

XD

OT:

As long as there is something in there about them not having kids from procreation (adoption is fine though) then I'm okay with this.

 

[Verlander]

Josef Fritzl must be gutted he didn't live in Switzerland

 

[fleischwolke]

It's always the same with those secluded mountain peoples....

 

[Dooly95]

So many backhanded comments in this topic. I'll have to admit, I'm a bit unnerved at this as well. To be honest, I'm confused. When was this illegal? Now, I'm not saying that this should have been legal to begin with, but I'm confused as to where people thought, "Hey, you know what? We need a law for this." and created a law to prevent incest.

And hell, this actually raises more questions. Where in the world would anyone see this and think, 'Yeah, the Swiss are on to something here, they're on top of it."? Or if it was because they're trying to get rid of a law they don't want to enforce any more, did they have that many incestuous couples asking for the state's blessing? I can't see this as a step forward, nor a way to get rid of something that had to be enforced.

I'm with the majority here. What you do in your bedroom is your own business.

 

[Wicky_42]

The most important aspect of illegalising incest imo is protecting vulnerable children from fucked up fathers. For that and no other reason I would oppose Switzerland here, even though I find the idea morally reprehensible in the first place.

 

[sdfasdfhfgfgjtyisdgdfdfj]

As known, there is no protection which is failproof.

Condoms are supposedly 99.8% effective (1/500 failure rate) while most birth control is around 99.9% effective (1/1000 failure rate). Stack the two and we're talking like a 1/500,000 failure rate, considering how few people would choose to practice this the risk is pretty tiny.

Nice number crunching, but unfortunatly it doesn't work like that in practical terms. There is still a human unreliability, or rather said, I think there is a large chance only 1 type of birth control will be used.

 

[Dooly95]

The most important aspect of illegalising incest imo is protecting vulnerable children from fucked up fathers. For that and no other reason I would oppose Switzerland here, even though I find the idea morally reprehensible in the first place.

And here I thought that'd be covered under general paedophilia laws.

 

[SergeMC]

damn. i know, it should be prohibited by our own biological system, as brothers find their sisters unattractive (or so i've heard)
....but damn, that's disgusting. sorry. what the hell are they thinking?
and yeah, no disrespect to everyone who thinks otherwise, but... no, just.. no.

 

[MrDeano89]

its genetically proven that incest causes genetic defects. This alone is grounds for it to be illegal, people should not have a choice in it.

 

[rockyoumonkeys]

The most important aspect of illegalising incest imo is protecting vulnerable children from fucked up fathers. For that and no other reason I would oppose Switzerland here, even though I find the idea morally reprehensible in the first place.

And here I thought that'd be covered under general paedophilia laws.

Exactly. I think we're just talking about consensual incest here. As in, two adults.

 

[Vryyk]

As known, there is no protection which is failproof.

Condoms are supposedly 99.8% effective (1/500 failure rate) while most birth control is around 99.9% effective (1/1000 failure rate). Stack the two and we're talking like a 1/500,000 failure rate, considering how few people would choose to practice this the risk is pretty tiny.

Nice number crunching, but unfortunatly it doesn't work like that in practical terms. There is still a human unreliability, or rather said, I think there is a large chance only 1 type of birth control will be used.

I know, I'm just saying if that it is possible to nearly completely negate the chances of a pregnancy if it was essential.

Chances are an incestual couple would be terrified of bearing a child and might act accordingly, so I don't know that one can entirely refute the legality of the act by saying there is no fail-proof way to make sure they can't have kids.