Switzerland might make incest legal.

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Dedtoo

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Looks like i might be going to Switzerland
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Just kidding.


I think it's up to them what to do, so if they want, go ahead.
Well, unless it becomes a family tradition to get kids with your close relatives i don't think the chances for it happening for many generations are very big.
And as some people have pointed out, low chance of birth defects at the first kid.
 

Wicky_42

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Dooly95 said:
Wicky_42 said:
The most important aspect of illegalising incest imo is protecting vulnerable children from fucked up fathers. For that and no other reason I would oppose Switzerland here, even though I find the idea morally reprehensible in the first place.
And here I thought that'd be covered under general paedophilia laws.
Eh, I guess it would. But then this way it'd be doubly wrong. Get 'em twice over!But yeah, ur right.
rockyoumonkeys said:
Dooly95 said:
Wicky_42 said:
The most important aspect of illegalising incest imo is protecting vulnerable children from fucked up fathers. For that and no other reason I would oppose Switzerland here, even though I find the idea morally reprehensible in the first place.
And here I thought that'd be covered under general paedophilia laws.
Exactly. I think we're just talking about consensual incest here. As in, two adults.
I guess everything else is already covered by other laws. Huh.
 

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Wicky_42 said:
The most important aspect of illegalising incest imo is protecting vulnerable children from fucked up fathers. For that and no other reason I would oppose Switzerland here, even though I find the idea morally reprehensible in the first place.
That is a strawman case. Incest between two consenting siblings is not akin to a father (or mother) taking advantage of his/her children. You are mixing up pedophilia with incest, which is a dishonest tactic at best.

I'm not particularly fond of incest myself (I will never engage in incest, without a doubt), yet I do not deny the choice to those whom might think otherwise. Finding it morally reprehensible is fine, but your opinion does not dictate the lives of others in their privacy, either.
 
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Vryyk said:
Fantoompje said:
Vryyk said:
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As known, there is no protection which is failproof.
Condoms are supposedly 99.8% effective (1/500 failure rate) while most birth control is around 99.9% effective (1/1000 failure rate). Stack the two and we're talking like a 1/500,000 failure rate, considering how few people would choose to practice this the risk is pretty tiny.
Nice number crunching, but unfortunatly it doesn't work like that in practical terms. There is still a human unreliability, or rather said, I think there is a large chance only 1 type of birth control will be used.
I know, I'm just saying if that it is possible to nearly completely negate the chances of a pregnancy if it was essential.

Chances are an incestual couple would be terrified of bearing a child and might act accordingly, so I don't know that one can entirely refute the legality of the act by saying there is no fail-proof way to make sure they can't have kids.
Good point.
 

hazabaza1

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I'll probably be judged for this, but while I usually see free will yo be one of my highest values, this just... doesn't sit right with me. If I were to go to an extreme point, I suppose I would say that incest sickens me. It's not like I've even seen too much stigma against it, just the idea of it, and the idea that people might be... well, not encouraging it, but not discouraging it, it makes me feel quite mad.
 

Estarc

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I am against incest, in most cases. The are a few reasons for this. The first, of course, is that any children born from incest will be fucked up. The second is that I fail to see how such relationships could ever be healthy and equal, and not a product of abuse, or something similar. Perhaps a small handful of incestuous relationships are similar to normal relationships, but I doubt many would be. I mean, take an example of a father and a daughter. What are the chances that that just happened to grow and develop like a normal relationship? Non-existent, unless we are using an example where they didn't know about their blood relation.

tl;dr - I think legal incest is pretty much equal to legal abuse.
 

PureIrony

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Having to explain this kind of thing to your family is more of a deterrent than any law could hope to be.

So, yeah. If two people are willing to go through that, they deserve each other.
 

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Danny Ocean said:
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Thus why I didn't use the word objective again...
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Well now you know which word to use. You can thank me later with cupcakes and blancmange.
Well I already knew, since I amended what I said before you even posted. No cake for you!
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ANImaniac89

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I'm sorry I just don't really see the point to this, Its a good thing that the law has only been 3 times since 1984, it means it works
OK setting aside the moral/religious implications incest is still wrong on a biologic level.
Inbreeding can really fuck up a geanpool over time. and I seriously doubt that Switzerland's government will impose mandatory abortions for all children conceived from incest.
Also people thinking that the "love" that the feel for that special branch of the family tree is perfectly normal (which its not) will start flocking there and soon Switzerland become a hotbed for inbred mutant freaks.
 

imburke

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people need to read up on how breeding works. just because two family members have a child does not mean that child will have birth defects. what happens is that it increases the odds that a genetic defect apparent in both dna contributors will be apparent in the offsprings dna as well. this is the same way we mix breed and pedigree dogs. and even if genetic defects happen, they will eventually be weeded out through genereations. its funny how uninformed people get all crazy about this but no one says anything about women over 35 having kids. down-syndrome would not exist if women in late life wouldnt have children, that is fact, children from related parents having and exhibiting genetic defects, not fact.
 

quiet_samurai

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Gross, but.... eh, I care not. If someone wants to bang their sister and she is down for it then whatever, it really has no affect on me personally.