Censorship sucks, thats really all there is to say on it.
Nuke_em_05 said:
Oh no! No violent videogames?! How will people survive?! Those barbarians, not allowing games where the sole purpose is how much blood you can spill, and how realistic it looks. How uncivilized, non-progressive, and archaic!
/sarcasm
Look folks, maybe we shouldn't cry out about how governments want to limit and restrict our ability to bloody things up, do drugs, and see boobies, in videogames. It doesn't really help the "mature gamer" mantra.
Also home of the Geneva Convention and the Red Cross.
Go figure they have some sort of opposition to violence in videogames.
Dear god people may express their dislike over a law that restricts they're right to free expression! I mean clearly this could never ever be used as justification by others for similar laws in their country. Nor could it ever be used to justify further restitution Nosirebob, something that effects their hobby should be of no concern to them at all!
Aktinson wasen't trying to enforce Austrailia haveing no R+18 rateing, he was just a distraction sent in by the swiss, so they could slowly begin to ban video games across the globe!
Situation isn't that much different from other countries in terms of public opinion towards video games (source of all that is evil and unholy on our fair united but divided-into-4... er...3-sectors-based-on-language land)
It's just that some of the officials in high places decided to go further than no country has ever gone before!
MercenaryCanary said:
Damn it.
I was wanting to move to Switzerland when I grew up, but this just... it's a real kick in the pants.
More worryingly, Switzerland is in the EU, which Britain has to obey by virtue of the fact we are the bitches of anyone bigger and more powerful than us...
Huh...? If by EU you mean European Union, you would be mistaken, since Switzerland never joined. Also, is this the same Britain that has "opt-out" of several of EU laws and uses Pounds instead of Euros?
Wow, that completely sucks for the Swiss. Do the politicians actually believe they are helping or do you think that Treblaine is right in his statement that Politicians are just doing this for right-wing old person votes?
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear...
That is all there is to say really.
More worryingly, Switzerland is in the EU, which Britain has to obey by virtue of the fact we are the bitches of anyone bigger and more powerful than us...
Actually, Switzerland is not part of the EU; and the UK has the fourth highest military budget in the world, the only EU country with a better military (statisticswise at least) is France.
Steve5513 said:
I live in the UK and always have and yet I know more about the politics of other countries, could someone fill me in on what the chances of such a thing happening in the UK?
Wow, it actually happened.
Next, we ban violent films and books.
Then maybe we get rid of works that make the government look bad.
This is a very slippery slope.
Not because it is extrapolation but the fallacious idea that we should be worried about where the law is LEADING rather than where it is ALREADY. It is ALREADY bad enough that adult-rated games are banned, no analogy, no extrapolation, it is In Itself a terrible law that is an attack on personal liberty.
One part of the slippery-slope argument I support is how the passing of one law makes a harsher law far more likely if not inevitable:
Say a law restricting gun ownership, so only the very rich with a lot of free time can own guns. This forces gun owners into a minority, then making gun-ownership a minority interest so politicians much less worried about sacrificing that freedom for their own political advancement. They key is restriction to reduce relevance to voters, then an outright ban.
I don't think Switzerland will ban violent books and movies, because I think the people that the politicians are pandering to in fact quite like 18+ rated movies, they just don't like video games and find it easy to justify banning the violent variety. I think if they had half the chance they'd ban all those "bleeping and bopping" machines that they don't understand.
Future Swiss attacks on personal liberty are likely to appeal to that social-conservative bias, it is very much like a brand of fascism due to the desire to return to traditional values, reject new forms of entertainment (jazz back then, internet/video games now) and demonise racial minorities (Muslims this time). The question is will this flirter out, is this just a spasm of the old ways dying or will it gain momentum? Probably not.
don't give me any of that Godwin's Law bullshit, I'm not saying something stupid like "Swiss speak German, like Hitler" I'm making comparisons with the fundamental defining features of Fascism though I'll admit many elements are lacked such as militantism and personality cults
This is just pathetic, really. The whole point of videogames is to live out fantasy's that you wouldn't do in real life. So what people want to enjoy some visceral gore now and then, its not doing any harm, and games have age ratings too so there really isn't a problem.
This plague of banning everything needs to be stopped before we loose all forms of expression! x.
Isn't EVERY SINGLE GAME a "violent game" in some way shape or form? Even your average Mario or Wii ____ game has some level of violence in it no matter how toned down it is. This is just a waste of fucking time and money.
Dammit, shows what I know haha. That's sad because I'm a poli sci student, didn't think I'd miss a fact like that. Then again, they don't really show up that much in the news, cept when Qaddafi tries to get them dissolved as a country by the UN (yes he actually tried that).
My point about tourist cash still stands though, even if it doesn't do much, I make the point of trying to avoid giving money to regimes that attack civil liberties (then again that's pretty hard here in Canada with the Harper government haha).
Yeah that was a hilarious day in Switzerland when we read that in the newspaper, It was probably the point when most of us stopped taking him seriously (if we ever started anyway...)
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