Syndicate's use of a dubstep artist

[Revenge Revisited]

I don't really know what dupstep is, but the music matched the trailer perfectly. It sounded pretty good to me, but maybe other dubstep songs are worse. I wouldn't know.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

This isn't directed at you specifically jeffers but, really, people who pepper their critiques of music with No True Scotsmans and reverse-appeal to authorities need to just stop it; your opinion on a genre or artist is not law, and as long as it meets the basic criteria for a genre(which this does), which one a piece of music falls into is largely down to where an individual chooses to put it.

Well said... now if only people would stop stealing the names of existing subgenres from completely unrelated genres to apply to new subgenres I could die content.

Signed,
Someone old enough to remember when the only Hardcore was a subgenre of Punk (basically the US equivalent to Oi) and owns several old school Jamaican dub LPs and CDs.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

For instance, what is Elvis Presley? An obvious forerunner in rock and roll culture along with Chuck Berry. At the time, everything he did was just Rock and Roll, even though now a lot of his songs are under the genre sub-genre rockabilly.

A lot of old rock gets mistaken for country these days. The mind, it boggles.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB

Spoiler: How does this lead to an FPS?

Why do they keep making great isometric strategy games into uninspired FPS games?

First X-Com, which looks too much like Bioshock, now Syndicate, which looks too much like Deus Ex...

If I wanted to be a punk, I could do the Fallout: Tactics --> Fallout 3 relation (and say it looks too much like Oblivion) but there's no reason to.

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for it, but at the same time I'm mildly disappointed because I liked the squad-based stuff.

I hope that was a rhetorical question. If not, it's because of Consoles. I don't mean that in a snooty, elitist PC gamer way. I mean if they want the game to be profitable, it'll have to be on consoles. If it's on the consoles it WILL be a shooter. Or at least it won't be a squad based isometric game because you can't HAVE those on consoles....

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I hope that was a rhetorical question. If not, it's because of Consoles. I don't mean that in a snooty, elitist PC gamer way. I mean if they want the game to be profitable, it'll have to be on consoles. If it's on the consoles it WILL be a shooter. Or at least it won't be a squad based isometric game because you can't HAVE those on consoles....

First off, OMG! Someone else who says 'isometric' instead of 'top down'...

Second... that's not a problem of the consoles themselves but more a perception of the console market.

Third... fuck it, looks like The Cartel make for an acceptable spiritual successor to Syndicate.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

snip.

ah i see fair enough, so we are on the same page a bit there, you just have a bit more in depth knowledge/passion for actual dubstep.

I hope that was a rhetorical question. If not, it's because of Consoles. I don't mean that in a snooty, elitist PC gamer way. I mean if they want the game to be profitable, it'll have to be on consoles. If it's on the consoles it WILL be a shooter. Or at least it won't be a squad based isometric game because you can't HAVE those on consoles....

First off, OMG! Someone else who says 'isometric' instead of 'top down'...

Second... that's not a problem of the consoles themselves but more a perception of the console market.

Third... fuck it, looks like The Cartel make for an acceptable spiritual successor to Syndicate.

honestly until i had come to these forums i had never seen anyone call it "top down", me personally and most of my friends have always said isometric, due to learning CAD and stuff at an early age. hell i had to look up what they meant first time i saw it.

 

[Qtoy]

Dubstep is the worst abortion of sound to ever exist and I hope it dies off very soon.

This. Oh so much this.

On a related note, Syndicate is NOT the only victim of this trend right now -


Yes Gentlemen, a Fantasy Steampunk Hack & Slash got the Dubstep treatment. You may now rage away.

Well, if we go by your implied opinion that Dubstep is generic bullcrap, then at least it fits the game you linked.

OT: I don't give a shit, I like every kind of music with extremely few exceptions, but I think it would be in the best interest of any game to not ship with a Dubstep exclusive soundtrack, considering the obvious hatedom of it, but I wouldn't mind.
Plus, much like the "99 Problems" trailer for Battlefield 3, the song went well with the sequence of events in the trailer and was timed well, so I liked it.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I hope that was a rhetorical question. If not, it's because of Consoles. I don't mean that in a snooty, elitist PC gamer way. I mean if they want the game to be profitable, it'll have to be on consoles. If it's on the consoles it WILL be a shooter. Or at least it won't be a squad based isometric game because you can't HAVE those on consoles....

First off, OMG! Someone else who says 'isometric' instead of 'top down'...

Second... that's not a problem of the consoles themselves but more a perception of the console market.

Third... fuck it, looks like The Cartel make for an acceptable spiritual successor to Syndicate.

What is "The Cartel"?

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I hope that was a rhetorical question. If not, it's because of Consoles. I don't mean that in a snooty, elitist PC gamer way. I mean if they want the game to be profitable, it'll have to be on consoles. If it's on the consoles it WILL be a shooter. Or at least it won't be a squad based isometric game because you can't HAVE those on consoles....

First off, OMG! Someone else who says 'isometric' instead of 'top down'...

Second... that's not a problem of the consoles themselves but more a perception of the console market.

Third... fuck it, looks like The Cartel make for an acceptable spiritual successor to Syndicate.

What is "The Cartel"?

Read and behold the wonder.

 

[onewheeled]

I have to say, I was afraid to watch the trailer. Skrillex is INCREDIBLY hit [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMdXOqq3WL4] or miss [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw] for me, so I was nervous about which end of the spectrum the song in the trailer would fall into.

It's... somewhere in the middle. The beginning of the song, as well as the first dubstep part, are amazing. But as soon as it started with some variation on the dubstep, it went to hell. Skrillex loves to sacrifice structure and rhythm for WUBWUBWUB, and that part is no exception. Ugh.

Cool trailer, though. It's the first time I've really looked into the game at all.

 

[Jandau]

Good god, I hope not. Dubstep is easily one of the worst things I've heard in the past few years, and I normally like drum&bass (Pendulum is one of the main things on my MP3 player). If game developers actually start putting it into games I'll have to start modding sound files to avoid poking my ears out...

What dubstep have you listened to?

No, not doing that talk again. Every time people start talking about dubstep and I mention I don't like it, someone asks "What did you listen to?". Then they proceed to list their own favourite dubstep artists, I go check a few songs on Youtube and my ears bleed some more. The only dubstep I can stand is basically d&b that people call dubstep for some reason. The things that seem to be distinctive elements of dubstep just rub me the wrong way (the constanly changing and inconsistent rythm, that annoying "wub wub wub" sound, the overly synthetic sound pallete, etc.).

People can listen to what they want, I just don't like it and for my own sake hope it never catches on in any aspect of my life (like, say, gaming)...

My point is proven.

Actually, my point is proven. I'm assuming the clip you linked is what you consider an example of good dubstep, yes? Well, what makes that dubstep? If anything, that reminds me of some of the Thievery Corporation stuff I listen to when I want to relax. So unless they have been doing Dubstep all these years, that's not dubstep...

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

That's a relatively decent tune for dubstep.

Dubstep is what happens when an electronic music producer decides not to bother changing the percussive portions of a track for five minutes. It's typically quite fucking awful. Also, "it's for dancing" doesn't really excuse the lack of creativity in breaks/beats.

pssshht nobody can dance to dubstep
no thats what electro is for

I forgive you though, dubstep makes everyones minds work badly.

You ever had that "hey, fuck you!" impulse that lead you to google something as seemingly innocuous as "how to dance to dubstep" and the end result ended up being pure nightmare fuel?

 

[Tallim]

That's a relatively decent tune for dubstep.

Dubstep is what happens when an electronic music producer decides not to bother changing the percussive portions of a track for five minutes. It's typically quite fucking awful. Also, "it's for dancing" doesn't really excuse the lack of creativity in breaks/beats.

pssshht nobody can dance to dubstep
no thats what electro is for

I forgive you though, dubstep makes everyones minds work badly.

You ever had that "hey, fuck you!" impulse that lead you to google something as seemingly innocuous as "how to dance to dubstep" and the end result ended up being pure nightmare fuel?

Lol yeah. I've been on the internet long enough that that preview image worries me slightly. I've also been *me* long enough to know that I *have* to look.

Er that's slightly disturbing for all manner of reasons. What's with the massive grin kid? Why is that man lounging in such a way? erggggg

 

[AnarchistFish]

Good god, I hope not. Dubstep is easily one of the worst things I've heard in the past few years, and I normally like drum&bass (Pendulum is one of the main things on my MP3 player). If game developers actually start putting it into games I'll have to start modding sound files to avoid poking my ears out...

What dubstep have you listened to?

No, not doing that talk again. Every time people start talking about dubstep and I mention I don't like it, someone asks "What did you listen to?". Then they proceed to list their own favourite dubstep artists, I go check a few songs on Youtube and my ears bleed some more. The only dubstep I can stand is basically d&b that people call dubstep for some reason. The things that seem to be distinctive elements of dubstep just rub me the wrong way (the constanly changing and inconsistent rythm, that annoying "wub wub wub" sound, the overly synthetic sound pallete, etc.).

People can listen to what they want, I just don't like it and for my own sake hope it never catches on in any aspect of my life (like, say, gaming)...

My point is proven.

Actually, my point is proven. I'm assuming the clip you linked is what you consider an example of good dubstep, yes? Well, what makes that dubstep? If anything, that reminds me of some of the Thievery Corporation stuff I listen to when I want to relax. So unless they have been doing Dubstep all these years, that's not dubstep...

Burial is considered to be one of the best dubstep artists out there. My point is that your idea of dubstep only represents a small portion of dubstep as a whole, so don't write off a whole genre just cos you don't like one type of it. Burial is definitely dubstep.