Teaching kids about homosexuality

[TiloXofXTanto]

Would you look at this? Idiots, intellectuals, bigots, and practitioners, I hereby ask you to look at this. By "this" I mean this thread, look at yourselves, look at this collective failure and success. Humans, I'm disappointed in you.

Let me get this out in the open for you, [insert "ahem" sound here] OPINIONS ARE FORMED FROM VIEWPOINTS, before you state a set in stone mentality on an issue, from which there is no return from label as "a gay" or "a bigot" or " a [insert another term used by one or both sides to insult the other here]", try and think of it from the other side.

Yes kind people, I'm asking you to think like bigots (so you know where they're coming from and how to combat them); and yes homophobes and uncomfortable heteros, I'm asking you to think like gay men, bisexuals, and lesbians (who have already been through negative experiences expected from such confusion described on this page) and also like the accepting, comfortable heterosexuals, asexuals, non-sexuals, and whatever the hell else there is out there (not including the creepy stuff people come up with in slippery slope theories) as well (in order to get where they're coming from and better defend your stand-point).

I want you all to shut up for a minute and read these thirteen pages from the view of an asexual, heterosexual, homosexual (male and female please, there is a different mentality there sometimes), homophobe, bigot, delinquent, and neutral party (alien or something, i don't know, something sentient and not human in the least (that means no sexual reproduction))
so that you can see all the prospective failures and successes in all of the arguments here and be able to form a valid opinion that doesn't feel too biased, but still presents itself as its own.

AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS: Let it be known that I am an asexual who has already stated a part of his opinion at the beginning and simply wanted to tell you all, that this is sad even when it's good (morally not entertainment-wise). Let it also be known that I too have strange recollections of stray homophobic thought in the back of my mind that make certain interactions with homosexual friends of mine awkward when I am tired, but that I am also a heterosexual male who has chosen (FOR ENTIRELY PERSONAL REASONS OF MENTAL (and unfortunately not physical) DISGUST OF THE CONCEPT OF SEX, ROMANCE, AND PROCREATION) to renounce that in favor of neutrality as an asexual.

...I'll stop talking before I write something overly-stupid and angry for half a page.
Carry-on Zerets.

 

[CharrHawk164]

To be honest I don't think that 7 year old children should be learning about hetrosexual relationships and sex anyway. As for homosexual I really think they shouldn't. They will find that out for themselves. I didn't start learning about sex until I was in secondary school (aged 12/13). I turned out alright. I'm not messes up in the head at all (as far as I know )

I'm currently training to be a primary school teacher and after going on placement and teaching 7 year olds, it is plainly obvious they are far to young to be learning about such things.

In short: No to even hetrosexual lessons.

 

[101flyboy]

No, I do not. I don't think homosexuality should be encouraged, unless it actually comes from the child itself, with as little as external influence as possible.

...or the kid might catch the gay?

You would be amazed how many people think they have a sexuality they indeed have not (at least that's what I firmly believe). I laugh at people under 18 who claim to be homosexual, as it's more often than not insecurity.

That I can agree with. Lots of 'bisexual' kids running around because it's the cool thing to be this week. My point was just that in my oppinion, information is important when building tolerance. If she doesn't know about gays, they'll always be strange and different. Teach a kid from the start that people are different and like different things, and maybe the social stigma will eventually go away.

trust me when I say that it is not cool to be homosexual. It might be within certain clicks of teenagers but in the big picture it is generally looked down upon. At my work we have two open gay males and they are not publicly ridiculed but when they arnt around comments are made about there sexuality from the majority of people that I work with.

This is the whole point, people. You want to keep homophobia strong? Continue shaming any discussion of homosexuality into the closet.

How old are you/where do you live/work profession? Just want an insight on like, the situation, get a visual.

How am I shaming anything? I dont understand. I will freely admit that I had gay sex on multiple occasions when I was younger.

Im 23 years old, live in missouri, 20 minutes outside of kansas city to get a better picture, i work in a nursing home. The people I was referencing range in age from 17 to 27 with a median age of roughly 21 I would say.

When I was in high school, five years ago Thw group of people I hung around with it was cool to be bisexual, I made out with several guys in this group of people. Outside of this group of people though someone being gay was a reason to fuck with them. As far as ive seen this hasnt changed much in the past few years. I grew up in michigan btw, very small town.

I wasn't talking about you, sorry, don't believe that at all. I was saying in general, that if people do not ACCEPT homosexual persons for who they are and do not TEACH kids that, yeah, some men like men, some women like women, that the end result is ignorance, and eventually homophobia. Ignorance is the driving force of hatred.

You grew up in a small town in Michigan and live in a..........small town in Missouri on the outskirts of Kansas City? OK, I'm not surprised by your experience. You basically live in the Bible belt. Being anti-gay is a rite of passage there. Missouri is a Republican state.

Most of these kids, they don't even know what it means to be anti-gay. They just are. Because they live in a society where they are supposed to be. In California, for instance, an anti-gay situation would lead to immediate intervention. That wouldn't happen in Missouri, or Kansas or Oklahoma.

I'm sorry about your childhood experience, but it does sound like you had fun personally and that's what matters the most. Unfortunately, in places like small town Michigan, Missouri or...........Alabama or Florida outside of Miami, things are going to take a long time to change.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

No, I do not. I don't think homosexuality should be encouraged, unless it actually comes from the child itself, with as little as external influence as possible.

The same goes for the opposite- The kid will learn soon enough, and probably ask her parents about it- then they should tell her, naturally, as unbiased as they can. If she later finds out she is indeed actually queer, it would be better if she does not have any subconscious issues with it inherited from her parents.

But still, they should not be handled equally, as heterosexuality is still the norm- and the natural way to reproduce. If the children are gay, they will probably find it out themselves. The important thing is to then make sure they are neither ashamed or feel otherwise repressed.

THANK YOU!



Also no she shouldn't and you shouldn't try to force her too. also keep this in the politics section.

 

[Olrod]

This "not appropriate yet" makes me think back to reading of parents that were scared of a armless woman appearing on a children's tv show because their children "might be scared" or "wouldnt understand" and, lets face it, because they did not want to answer the question. "She has no arm, she lost it." and "He likes other boys, some people do." won't cause the kid's head to explode, they'll take a moment, accept it, then move on with their life. Children are especially prone to just accepting things.

Hence the saying: "Get them while they're young."

Children have the wonderful ability to accept things as being normal.

Obviously, this has both benefits and drawbacks. Benefits include acceptance, and drawbacks include the potential for exploitation.

Whether it be going to kindergarten with people of a different race, having two dads, or an uncle who touches you "there", children generally just accept the stuff they encounter from their peers and elders, unless they're taught not to.

 

[Boommin]

No, I do not. I don't think homosexuality should be encouraged, unless it actually comes from the child itself, with as little as external influence as possible.

...or the kid might catch the gay?

You would be amazed how many people think they have a sexuality they indeed have not (at least that's what I firmly believe). I laugh at people under 18 who claim to be homosexual, as it's more often than not insecurity.

That I can agree with. Lots of 'bisexual' kids running around because it's the cool thing to be this week. My point was just that in my oppinion, information is important when building tolerance. If she doesn't know about gays, they'll always be strange and different. Teach a kid from the start that people are different and like different things, and maybe the social stigma will eventually go away.

trust me when I say that it is not cool to be homosexual. It might be within certain clicks of teenagers but in the big picture it is generally looked down upon. At my work we have two open gay males and they are not publicly ridiculed but when they arnt around comments are made about there sexuality from the majority of people that I work with.

This is the whole point, people. You want to keep homophobia strong? Continue shaming any discussion of homosexuality into the closet.

How old are you/where do you live/work profession? Just want an insight on like, the situation, get a visual.

How am I shaming anything? I dont understand. I will freely admit that I had gay sex on multiple occasions when I was younger.

Im 23 years old, live in missouri, 20 minutes outside of kansas city to get a better picture, i work in a nursing home. The people I was referencing range in age from 17 to 27 with a median age of roughly 21 I would say.

When I was in high school, five years ago Thw group of people I hung around with it was cool to be bisexual, I made out with several guys in this group of people. Outside of this group of people though someone being gay was a reason to fuck with them. As far as ive seen this hasnt changed much in the past few years. I grew up in michigan btw, very small town.

Missouri is a Republican state.
.

Btw democrats living in the Bible belt are the same btw. Singling out republicans is pretty ignorant.

 

[blarghblarghhhhh]

No, I do not. I don't think homosexuality should be encouraged, unless it actually comes from the child itself, with as little as external influence as possible.

...or the kid might catch the gay?

You would be amazed how many people think they have a sexuality they indeed have not (at least that's what I firmly believe). I laugh at people under 18 who claim to be homosexual, as it's more often than not insecurity.

That I can agree with. Lots of 'bisexual' kids running around because it's the cool thing to be this week. My point was just that in my oppinion, information is important when building tolerance. If she doesn't know about gays, they'll always be strange and different. Teach a kid from the start that people are different and like different things, and maybe the social stigma will eventually go away.

trust me when I say that it is not cool to be homosexual. It might be within certain clicks of teenagers but in the big picture it is generally looked down upon. At my work we have two open gay males and they are not publicly ridiculed but when they arnt around comments are made about there sexuality from the majority of people that I work with.

This is the whole point, people. You want to keep homophobia strong? Continue shaming any discussion of homosexuality into the closet.

How old are you/where do you live/work profession? Just want an insight on like, the situation, get a visual.

How am I shaming anything? I dont understand. I will freely admit that I had gay sex on multiple occasions when I was younger.

Im 23 years old, live in missouri, 20 minutes outside of kansas city to get a better picture, i work in a nursing home. The people I was referencing range in age from 17 to 27 with a median age of roughly 21 I would say.

When I was in high school, five years ago Thw group of people I hung around with it was cool to be bisexual, I made out with several guys in this group of people. Outside of this group of people though someone being gay was a reason to fuck with them. As far as ive seen this hasnt changed much in the past few years. I grew up in michigan btw, very small town.

I wasn't talking about you, sorry, don't believe that at all. I was saying in general, that if people do not ACCEPT homosexual persons for who they are and do not TEACH kids that, yeah, some men like men, some women like women, that the end result is ignorance, and eventually homophobia. Ignorance is the driving force of hatred.

You grew up in a small town in Michigan and live in a..........small town in Missouri on the outskirts of Kansas City? OK, I'm not surprised by your experience. You basically live in the Bible belt. Being anti-gay is a rite of passage there. Missouri is a Republican state.

Most of these kids, they don't even know what it means to be anti-gay. They just are. Because they live in a society where they are supposed to be. In California, for instance, an anti-gay situation would lead to immediate intervention. That wouldn't happen in Missouri, or Kansas or Oklahoma.

I'm sorry about your childhood experience, but it does sound like you had fun personally and that's what matters the most. Unfortunately, in places like small town Michigan, Missouri or...........Alabama or Florida outside of Miami, things are going to take a long time to change.

Missouri isnt the worst place ive ever been as far as homophobia goes. Michigan was far worse, we had a decent turnout at our gay pride festival when I went a few years back.

 

[101flyboy]

Would you look at this? Idiots, intellectuals, bigots, and practitioners, I hereby ask you to look at this. By "this" I mean this thread, look at yourselves, look at this collective failure and success. Humans, I'm disappointed in you.

Let me get this out in the open for you, [insert "ahem" sound here] OPINIONS ARE FORMED FROM VIEWPOINTS, before you state a set in stone mentality on an issue, from which there is no return from label as "a gay" or "a bigot" or " a [insert another term used by one or both sides to insult the other here]", try and think of it from the other side.

Yes kind people, I'm asking you to think like bigots (so you know where they're coming from and how to combat them); and yes homophobes and uncomfortable heteros, I'm asking you to think like gay men, bisexuals, and lesbians (who have already been through negative experiences expected from such confusion described on this page) and also like the accepting, comfortable heterosexuals, asexuals, non-sexuals, and whatever the hell else there is out there (not including the creepy stuff people come up with in slippery slope theories) as well (in order to get where they're coming from and better defend your stand-point).

I want you all to shut up for a minute and read these thirteen pages from the view of an asexual, heterosexual, homosexual (male and female please, there is a different mentality there sometimes), homophobe, bigot, delinquent, and neutral party (alien or something, i don't know, something sentient and not human in the least (that means no sexual reproduction))
so that you can see all the prospective failures and successes in all of the arguments here and be able to form a valid opinion that doesn't feel too biased, but still presents itself as its own.

AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS: Let it be known that I am an asexual who has already stated a part of his opinion at the beginning and simply wanted to tell you all, that this is sad even when it's good (morally not entertainment-wise). Let it also be known that I too have strange recollections of stray homophobic thought in the back of my mind that make certain interactions with homosexual friends of mine awkward when I am tired, but that I am also a heterosexual male who has chosen (FOR ENTIRELY PERSONAL REASONS OF MENTAL (and unfortunately not physical) DISGUST OF THE CONCEPT OF SEX, ROMANCE, AND PROCREATION) to renounce that in favor of neutrality as an asexual.

...I'll stop talking before I write something overly-stupid and angry for half a page.
Carry-on Zerets.

Good post, I agree that the bigots should take time to think in the perspective of a gay person. But the reverse? Bigotry is wrong and shouldn't be propagated. But you do seem to have a good head on your shoulders, your clear headed, and that's a good thing for you personally.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

There is absolutely no rational justification for avoiding discussion of homosexuality if you're discussing heterosexuality. Children aren't going to be "confused" (unless you go out of your way to make it confusing) and evidence suggests that it's not going to affect their sexuality. Though really, even if it did, why should that matter?

The continuing rhetoric that being gay is only okay because gay people have no choice (the genetic argument) has always seemed pretty fucked up to me. Can't we just say "being gay is okay"? Most people don't go around qualifying their racial tolerance by saying "You know, it's okay that you're black, I know you can't help it."

If you're teaching your kids about sexuality (or romance), just present all sides of it. Some boys like girls, a smaller number of boys like boys, opposite goes for girls. Transgender stuff might be best saved for a bit later as children typically already have a fairly strong understanding of gender and issues involving gender can get legitimately confusing (even to adults). Still might be worth bringing up gently. If you're deep enough into it to be explaining how procreation works, suck it up and explain that gay people have sex too rather than hiding it like some shameful secret. Children aren't upset or confused by having to talk about these things, adults are. You owe it to your children to suck it up and explain things to them.

I agree but school systems in America at least.Don't go into detail except for reproduction and STDS. So its unnecessary unless they go more into detail which they don't.

I went to school in America, in an extremely conservative town even. They don't pretend like reproduction doesn't involve sex, they just neglect to mention any form other than straight sex. Sure they're not handing out diagrams of positions or anything, but no one's suggesting they do that for any kind of sex. All you have to say is that when men have intercourse with men, it's often anal rather than vaginal. People think that this kind of simple parity is too "disgusting" for kids, but that's only because they themselves think that.

Of course, I suppose cowardly skirting the topic is preferable to the single remotely queer question fielded in the sex ed I had as a kid -- speaking about a WOMAN mind you, not even a man, the instructor explained that no one should ever have anal sex because there was no safe way to do it, it always caused pain and injuries, and the human body wasn't "designed" for it (before someone posts something stupid, the human body wasn't designed for virtually anything we do with it: it wasn't designed for glasses, it wasn't designed for cars, it wasn't designed for arguing with people on the internet).

 

[101flyboy]

No, I do not. I don't think homosexuality should be encouraged, unless it actually comes from the child itself, with as little as external influence as possible.

...or the kid might catch the gay?

You would be amazed how many people think they have a sexuality they indeed have not (at least that's what I firmly believe). I laugh at people under 18 who claim to be homosexual, as it's more often than not insecurity.

That I can agree with. Lots of 'bisexual' kids running around because it's the cool thing to be this week. My point was just that in my oppinion, information is important when building tolerance. If she doesn't know about gays, they'll always be strange and different. Teach a kid from the start that people are different and like different things, and maybe the social stigma will eventually go away.

trust me when I say that it is not cool to be homosexual. It might be within certain clicks of teenagers but in the big picture it is generally looked down upon. At my work we have two open gay males and they are not publicly ridiculed but when they arnt around comments are made about there sexuality from the majority of people that I work with.

This is the whole point, people. You want to keep homophobia strong? Continue shaming any discussion of homosexuality into the closet.

How old are you/where do you live/work profession? Just want an insight on like, the situation, get a visual.

How am I shaming anything? I dont understand. I will freely admit that I had gay sex on multiple occasions when I was younger.

Im 23 years old, live in missouri, 20 minutes outside of kansas city to get a better picture, i work in a nursing home. The people I was referencing range in age from 17 to 27 with a median age of roughly 21 I would say.

When I was in high school, five years ago Thw group of people I hung around with it was cool to be bisexual, I made out with several guys in this group of people. Outside of this group of people though someone being gay was a reason to fuck with them. As far as ive seen this hasnt changed much in the past few years. I grew up in michigan btw, very small town.

I wasn't talking about you, sorry, don't believe that at all. I was saying in general, that if people do not ACCEPT homosexual persons for who they are and do not TEACH kids that, yeah, some men like men, some women like women, that the end result is ignorance, and eventually homophobia. Ignorance is the driving force of hatred.

You grew up in a small town in Michigan and live in a..........small town in Missouri on the outskirts of Kansas City? OK, I'm not surprised by your experience. You basically live in the Bible belt. Being anti-gay is a rite of passage there. Missouri is a Republican state.

Most of these kids, they don't even know what it means to be anti-gay. They just are. Because they live in a society where they are supposed to be. In California, for instance, an anti-gay situation would lead to immediate intervention. That wouldn't happen in Missouri, or Kansas or Oklahoma.

I'm sorry about your childhood experience, but it does sound like you had fun personally and that's what matters the most. Unfortunately, in places like small town Michigan, Missouri or...........Alabama or Florida outside of Miami, things are going to take a long time to change.

Missouri isnt the worst place ive ever been as far as homophobia goes. Michigan was far worse, we had a decent turnout at our gay pride festival when I went a few years back.

Michigan is terribly homophobic. Especially central, western and northwestern Michigan. Detroit is a poor, run down place, and not really vibrant in any real way, so obviously the gays ain't feelin' it! But seriously, when it comes to the Midwest, south, and mountain west, and southwest, it's basically 50-50 with the gay acceptance, if not worse. Big cities tend to be gay accepting, smaller towns which you're used to living in generally aren't. Missouri is more gay friendly potentially that the other Midwest states but, overall, it's still a Midwest state.

The Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, West coast, South Florida and north central (Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois) are the places to be if you're gay.

 

[TiloXofXTanto]

]Good post, I agree that the bigots should take time to think in the perspective of a gay person. But the reverse? Bigotry is wrong and shouldn't be propagated. But you do seem to have a good head on your shoulders, your clear headed, and that's a good thing for you personally.

The whole bigotry thing was just looking from their point of view not to respect their hatred or to expand it, but to get you thinking about why they think that way, in order to better persuade them away from what I have ultimately defined as irrational fear-driven hatred.

 

[tautologico]

My pregnant sister has a 7 year old step-daughter who's in the process of learning about the birds and the bees. I was a little rattled to learn that my sister is only teaching her about hetrosexual relations, saying that it would be 'inappropriate' to tell her about homosexuality at such an early age as the step-daughter might discuss it at school and awkward phone calls from the teachers might follow. Since my sister is in a hetrosexual marriage she argued that it's what her step-daughter encounters on a daily basis, and thus is what she should be taught as the 'norm'.

Do you escapists think that children should be told about homosexuality and homosexual relationships at the same time as they're learning about straight relationships?

Absolutely not.

If an adult wants to make the decision that that lifestyle is for them, thats their business. But I completely disagree with teaching a child about it. As a parent, I find it outrageous that anyone would try to do so, to be honest.

Why? Do you fear your children will "catch the gay" or be influenced towards becoming gay if they hear about it?

 

[101flyboy]

]Good post, I agree that the bigots should take time to think in the perspective of a gay person. But the reverse? Bigotry is wrong and shouldn't be propagated. But you do seem to have a good head on your shoulders, your clear headed, and that's a good thing for you personally.

The whole bigotry thing was just looking from their point of view not to respect their hatred or to expand it, but to get you thinking about why they think that way, in order to better persuade them away from what I have ultimately defined as irrational fear-driven hatred.

True. I know why they think the way they do. Heterosexism. That's not something you can really break, though. It's more than a POV, it's a cultural thing, it's societal, and even biological. The issues with anti-gay bigotry are much deeper than I think most realize.

 

[gl1koz3]

I think they should choose by themselves.

(Now, I'm not against all that stuff or anyone regarding this - I believe everyone should choose how to live the life and, believe me, I'm incapable of judging individuals before I know them; But here is me just saying what I REALLY think about this issue; if you feel strongly about it, stop reading)

Spoiler

Firstly, the nature (and us) should get the facts straight: MALE + FEMALE = NOT FAIL. Pointless to argue. Ends all arguments.

Secondly, everyone should decide for themselves. If she decides to do that, then fine. If otherwise, fine too. It's a conflict of nature. No matter how to twist. Deal with one or the other (accept it peacefully), or STFU.

 

[blarghblarghhhhh]

I think they should choose by themselves.

(Now, I'm not against all that stuff or anyone regarding this - I believe everyone should choose how to live the life and, believe me, I'm incapable of judging individuals before I know them; But here is me just saying what I REALLY think about this issue; if you feel strongly about it, stop reading)

Spoiler

Firstly, the nature (and us) should get the facts straight: MALE + FEMALE = NOT FAIL. Pointless to argue. Ends all arguments.

Secondly, everyone should decide for themselves. If she decides to do that, then fine. If otherwise, fine too. It's a conflict of nature. No matter how to twist.

nature=homosexual dolphins having blowhole sex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

scroll down to amazon river dolphin

 

[Boommin]

I think they should choose by themselves.

(Now, I'm not against all that stuff or anyone regarding this - I believe everyone should choose how to live the life and, believe me, I'm incapable of judging individuals before I know them; But here is me just saying what I REALLY think about this issue; if you feel strongly about it, stop reading)

Spoiler

Firstly, the nature (and us) should get the facts straight: MALE + FEMALE = NOT FAIL. Pointless to argue. Ends all arguments.

Secondly, everyone should decide for themselves. If she decides to do that, then fine. If otherwise, fine too. It's a conflict of nature. No matter how to twist.

nature=homosexual dolphins having blowhole sex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

scroll down to amazon river dolphin

Animals can go against the natural cycle.

Edited for spelling

 

[SwagLordYoloson]

No, I do not. I don't think homosexuality should be encouraged, unless it actually comes from the child itself, with as little as external influence as possible.

The same goes for the opposite- The kid will learn soon enough, and probably ask her parents about it- then they should tell her, naturally, as unbiased as they can. If she later finds out she is indeed actually queer, it would be better if she does not have any subconscious issues with it inherited from her parents.

But still, they should not be handled equally, as heterosexuality is still the norm- and the natural way to reproduce. If the children are gay, they will probably find it out themselves. The important thing is to then make sure they are neither ashamed or feel otherwise repressed.

I agree with this 100%.

It all comes down to the parent's decisions though, and they chose to have the child so its their burden and their choice on how to act on these matters. And it really isn't anyone else's business

innocentEX's post is both articulated offensively and utterly ridiculous. You're screwing with your child if you don't give them the talk at an incredibly pre-pubescent age. You're evidently offended by the idea of children being exposed to the idea of homosexuality, something which is bigoted. YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMEONE GAY, YOU ****. PEOPLE ARE BORN GAY. SO WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER WHEN A CHILD IS EXPOSED TO HOMOSEXUALITY?!?!

/end rant.

I was more so agreeing about how he was going to handle telling the child when the child chooses to bring it up. I don't really understand why you are getting so riled up by my opinion. I am sorry I may have offended you and but this is how I will raise my children. The way your post came across is as if you didn't read the whole part in the OP's post that says "it would be better if she does not have any subconscious issues with it inherited from her parents." and "The important thing is to then make sure they are neither ashamed or feel otherwise repressed.".

These two statements support the growth of the child's sexuality whether heterosexual or homosexual.

I also never mentioned that I thought children could catch 'gay', I merely would like to bring up my children thinking that the normal way that humans as a species find love is between a man and a women. As this is the normal. I won't ever pressure this on the child just inform them that this is why most men and women live together. And if my child asks why homosexuals live together I will inform them that they live together for the same reasons that men and women do.

EDIT: I see you edited your post to sound less offensive and all your hate is aimed at the first poster, I guess that kind of makes my rebuttle kinda redundant. Also since when is 7, just before puberty? I thought most girls enter puberty around 10-14 and for guys its 12-14.

Translation: I don't want gay/lesbian kids and I will do everything in my power to avoid it. Being gay is abnormal and beneath heterosexuality.

... Selective reading...

 

[Blemontea]

If we can teach them its normal then there generation would finally end the prejudice against homosexuality and end all this crap about homos are going to look at my junk and let open people live in a world without fear of being rePressed becuase they prefer the same gender.

 

[spartan1077]

No, I do not. I don't think homosexuality should be encouraged, unless it actually comes from the child itself, with as little as external influence as possible.

So if the child is homosexual/bisexual/pansexual, they wouldn't understand what it is because they weren't taught. That's my argument to the quoted statement. If I took it out of context or don't understand what you're saying exactly, please correct me.

OT: Pretty much the above point. My Mom taught me both heterosexual and homosexual sex and I didn't turn gay because of that. I always was and always will be and now I just understand homosexual sex more(although a quick google search can too) and the harmful things in both.