Teen Arrested for Making Threats Over Xbox Live
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wow they take threats seriosly now?
well just go down a list of modern warfare players and pick every second one. most of them will be guilty.
well just go down a list of modern warfare players and pick every second one. most of them will be guilty.
Wait, wait, wait. San Antonio? As in where I live San Antonio? Holy, do I know this person? Who the hell takes Xbox Live threats seriously. I mean if we really took them seriously then I'd say 70% of the people on this site alone would have their mothers in protective custody at this moment. It's times like this where I can only say "Big Brother is watching you".
samsonguy920 said:If it was the government monitoring LIVE that then arrested the boy, and then probably the man for not saying anything about it on his own, then you would be right. It is a part of a person's civic duty to follow up when they are witness to a crime that is happening or is in the process of. I am curious when down the road a crime is committed against you or someone close to you, and you find out later that someone could have stepped up and said something that would have prevented the crime from being committed, if you would forgive that witness since they didn't play the part of an "Orwellian stooge." Ask yourself that.UtopiaV1 said:You guys ever watched Minority Report? Where people who saw the future, "pre-cogs", predicted "crimes" that would happen in the future, and then the police would arrest the person who would commit the crime before they could do it. Do you remember how that film ended? (and don't say badly, but if you did i would agree)
Turns out *gasp* intent and action are TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS!!! This is the stupidest waste of police time i've ever witnessed since my neighbor rang the local PD to complain about my unkempt fern tree in the garden. Especially given the fact that this person (in the above article) didn't have the EQUIPMENT necessary actually carry out the crime he said he was going to commit.
This is so stupid. This isn't games being used for good, this is the first step towards a 1984-style future...
EDIT: I see I have been beaten to the punch. Glad to see not everyone in here is a short-sighted, a-moral sheep...
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When I was in school I was called into a principal's office for police questioning because someone said someone else said that someone else heard me and a friend "sinisterly plotting" to "blow up the school." I was labelled a terrorist, even though I was failing chemistry at the time which they would've noticed if our American heads weren't up George Dub-yah's ass at the time, and the rest of my scholastic career, the moment anything happened I was asked about it first.
now it's a slippery ass slope on this arguement and I am indeed overjoyed that a potentially serious crime may have been prevented. The question here is was it worth the cost? Any little thing that an aging conservative Senator sees as an opportunity to crack down on any kind of Broadly listed "Terrorist Acts" especially involving these stupid kids that
WONT GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN!!!!
He's gonna push an agenda that can capitalize on this. It isn't violent videogames save the day. It's Violent videogames cause students to rage and nearly become terrorists. They'll also probably work drugs and teen pregnancy into the headline somewhere.
As for one of our families or ourselves being victimized and there being potential to catch it...there always is one. It's your cell phone. Everyone's got one and the mic never shuts off, just is or isn't connected to the radio. EVERYTHING CAN BE HEARD IF YOU WISH. See how well you like it.
What if the student actually meant it though and the other gamer did not report him? What if the shooting did happen and people were killed?UtopiaV1 said:You guys ever watched Minority Report? Where people who saw the future, "pre-cogs", predicted "crimes" that would happen in the future, and then the police would arrest the person who would commit the crime before they could do it. Do you remember how that film ended? (and don't say badly, but if you did i would agree
Turns out *gasp* intent and action are TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS!!! This is the stupidest waste of police time i've ever witnessed since my neighbor rang the local PD to complain about my unkempt fern tree in the garden. Especially given the fact that this person (in the above article) didn't have the EQUIPMENT necessary actually carry out the crime he said he was going to commit.
This is so stupid. This isn't games being used for good, this is the first step towards a 1984-style future...
EDIT: I see I have been beaten to the punch. Glad to see not everyone in here is a short-sighted, a-moral sheep...
How would you feel about if it did happen?
Not surprised that he got arrested, even less surprised that he is from Texas.
I mean c'mon! Who doesnt know that they can track you down far easier with online threats? Seriously, its almost as if he wanted to get caught.
I mean c'mon! Who doesnt know that they can track you down far easier with online threats? Seriously, its almost as if he wanted to get caught.
A threat to someone you can't find out who they are [though if they wanted to bad enough they could] Is differnt then someone saying "I'm going to shoot up my school" over there mic. The person making the threat is in reach of said people they wanna shoot. Also when those"1337" people say it they are talking about in game only no matter how you twist it. They arn't going to take about a day to find you.The DSM said:
I heard that once, a man was a suspect in a murder trial, but his facebook status gave him an alibi.Hybridwolf said:
If I reported every time someone threatened me over LIVE, man, we need need to build an actual SUPERJAIL. Good show if yo haven't seen it. OT: He deserved it. You don't threaten to blow up stuff over the internet. Not in this day and age.
reminds me of the penny arcade comic "the federal bureau of taking all you shit", but I couldn't find it.
he has a point.Arcane Azmadi said:
In George Orwell's 1984, the surveillance state was so pervasive that half of its work was accomplished by cooperative citizens who would report suspicious behavior to the government. I can't help seeing the similarities when a 15 year old who makes egregious remarks about his school is reported to Microsoft and their technology is used to track him down and have him suspended.wasalp said:
Also, BB refers to Big Brother, the icon of that surveillance state. I'd recommend 1984 [http://www.george-orwell.org/1984] to everyone as an excellent read, but especially to anyone using Google, Microsoft, Amazon, or any credit-card technology on a regular basis.
Normally I am somewhat more conflicted about such things. I want to try and defend the young man, saying that he did not understand how seriously his statements would be taken. I would also like to age into consideration. On the other hand, it was a stupid thing to say under any circumstance and was worthy of investigation. Lastly, I am unsure how much trouble this kid needs to get in. It is definitely not felony class misbehavior.
This was an act of idiocy and was in need of punishment - simple enough I suppose.
This was an act of idiocy and was in need of punishment - simple enough I suppose.
Really people, there is a difference between empty threats and detailed plans. Don't call the police if some (or several) douchebags shout "I'm gonna kill youz".
But if somebody goes into detail and tells you where they live and who they plan to kill in their school, that deserves attention. It's a good thing Microsoft helped, because that would have made them look like shit if the kid had actually gone through with it.
Seriously though, if this kid was really going to shoot up his school, he probably wouldn't be spending the day before playing on XBL. In addition, if he's stupid enough to gush all his plans online he probably wouldn't have even gotten the gun to school without being caught.
But if somebody goes into detail and tells you where they live and who they plan to kill in their school, that deserves attention. It's a good thing Microsoft helped, because that would have made them look like shit if the kid had actually gone through with it.
Seriously though, if this kid was really going to shoot up his school, he probably wouldn't be spending the day before playing on XBL. In addition, if he's stupid enough to gush all his plans online he probably wouldn't have even gotten the gun to school without being caught.
Yea, I definitely envisioned a "Ministry of Love" type outfit where they torture bad students in the basement.Acidwell said: