Teenage rapist who was let off let off attacks again within days

[ItsAChiaotzu]

Uh. There has been so much of this I'm completely desensitised to it. Call me immoral, but I really don't care anymore.

Admittedly it is hard to care sometimes, I don't mean that in a sick, insensitive way, but with so much shit that happens if you let yourself get affected by all of it you'll never be happy.

That said, this is pretty sickening, especially the parents forgiving the rapist of all things.

Oh shock horror, they forgave him!

They should forgive him, and so should the child when he becomes an age that he can understand, and they shouldn't hate him, they should pity him.

The person who did this was 16! Imagine what was in his mind, try and empathise with the rapist himself, of course this was horrible for the boy who got raped but everyone seems to be forgetting that the guy who did this doesn't need punishment, he needs serious help.

 

[TastyCarcass]

On a related note, how long is a 16 year old usually arrested for drugs?

 

[Agema]

This is a potent reason for why we should never let the victims have any say or influence the sentencing of criminals.

 

[Logic 0]

The judge who let the rapist off with community service and the parents who forgave him should be sentenced to death for being idiots,because they knew he was a danger to society and they let him leave through the front door that's not forgiveness that's stupidity.

While the rapist should be sentenced to life in solitary confinement so he can't hurt anyone else again.

 

[McNinja]

When I saw the title, I thought, "well no kidding," but 3 years? what is everyone stupid today? first we got retards having live ammunition in gun shows and no letting rapists walk free then, after they do it again, only give them three years?

My faith in humanity has just plummeted.

 

[Legion]

Uh. There has been so much of this I'm completely desensitised to it. Call me immoral, but I really don't care anymore.

Admittedly it is hard to care sometimes, I don't mean that in a sick, insensitive way, but with so much shit that happens if you let yourself get affected by all of it you'll never be happy.

That said, this is pretty sickening, especially the parents forgiving the rapist of all things.

Oh shock horror, they forgave him!

They should forgive him, and so should the child when he becomes an age that he can understand, and they shouldn't hate him, they should pity him.

The person who did this was 16! Imagine what was in his mind, try and empathise with the rapist himself, of course this was horrible for the boy who got raped but everyone seems to be forgetting that the guy who did this doesn't need punishment, he needs serious help.

Are you saying you could forgive someone who raped your seven year old child? That's pretty messed up if the answer is yes. Being raped can mess people up, learning that your parents effectively allowed the person to go out and do it to someone else would fuck them up even more.

Yes, the person needs help, but I wasn't commenting on his punishment, I was talking about the parents attitude. They should never have forgiven him, but the guy should be in a mental institution, not prison. That should have happened the first time he did it.

 

[Soxafloppin]

Death penalty for rape, Now.

 

[fatessilence]

And where was the 16 year old parents at this time? Blame the parents and not just the boy! I still think 3 years is still too short. What's to say that he wouldn't do this again when he is out? It only took him a few days after the first sentencing for him to do it again.

If someone did this to my kid I wouldn't be so easily to forgive this kid and I grew up in a christan home.

 

[TastyCarcass]

seriously, how long does a 16 year old get in jail for heroin or something for?

 

[Macgyvercas]

Oh, look. It seems my faith in humanity has risen from the dead again *headshot* Took care of it.

This is just sick.

 

[TheMatt]

The guy obviously has something wrong going on in his head. He needs a LOT of help to get to the bottom of why he does this.

(I am going to be sorta rude to you. You, in this instance, stand for ALL the people who think like this, so sorry ahead of time, I don;t hate you personally)

You know what? Fuck THAT namby pamby liberal bullshit. This fucker should rot in jail FOREVER + a day. Fuck getting them help. I'd like my tax dollars to fund research/armed force/road repair, FUCKING ANYTHING besides "helping" people like this.

It's people like you who allow freaks like this to go out and offend again. Attitudes like yours are what caused... (shit I forget, any Canadians who remember this pls remind me of the details) 2-3 years ago in BC some drunk driver hit and killed a child. It was his TWELFTH fucking DUI. All the times before this he got counseling, or "help" as you call it and it is total bullshit. That kid could have had a life if this asshole was thrown in jail FOR LIFE after offence number 3.

Now THIS fucking freak is going to get out of jail in 3 years, after his "help" and in all likelihood rape another kid.

A lot of "help" that will be for society.

and in closing... BURN THEM ALL.

 

[Timotei]

Oh shock horror, they forgave him!

They should forgive him, and so should the child when he becomes an age that he can understand, and they shouldn't hate him, they should pity him.

The person who did this was 16! Imagine what was in his mind, try and empathise with the rapist himself, of course this was horrible for the boy who got raped but everyone seems to be forgetting that the guy who did this doesn't need punishment, he needs serious help.

You are sympathizing with somebody who raped a child, was let off the hook, and instead of straightening out, decides to rape another child within the week. And the grounds for sympathizing with him are that "he needs help".

Following that logic, Saddam Hussein didn't need to be hung, he just needed to get some help after murdering hundreds of thousands of his own people.

 

[TheMatt]

Death penalty for rape, Now.

here here!

 

[Claymorez]

This is just sickening. A 16 year old rapist was allowed to walk free with a pathetic community order as punishment for raping a 7 year old boy. It is thought that the lenient sentence was partly because the boy's Christian parents forgave the criminal.Within days of walking free he raped a 5 year old boy. I've included a number of references to show I'm not some outraged Daily Mail reader who is exaggerating:

[link]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6912669.ece[/link]
[link]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/teenage-attacker-behind-bars-after-second-child-rape-1818627.html[/link]
[link]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218021/Senior-judge-released-teenage-paedophile-raped-child--days-later.html[/link]

This is so unjust in so many ways. Firstly, the original sentence; maybe the judge doesn't believe that male on male rape is serious, this is obviously a disgusting attitude and has no credence. Secondly, religion should be kept out of the courts when it comes to judgement. Perhaps more importantly, the parents should not be allowed to be recognised to 'forgive' on the child's behalf. It is the child who has to live with this, these parent are despicable. However, it does seem that they expected a much more serious punishment for him. How can a paedophile be allowed to be convicted and not go to jail for at least 20 years!?


Here is a rather cynical view/my view of how it should be dealt with or how all crime should be dealt with - now It may be extreemly harsh but fear is a powerful motivator, anyone who commits a crime say mugging someone, if the mugger or criminal is aged 14/16 + is given 1 year of jail time - second offence is life imprisonment till death - this way it prevent criminals going into jail meeting other criminals and getting more set in their ways or comeing out of jail with new toolsets for crime learnt from other criminals. Murder or rape with intent of rape is instant imprisonment till death - this doesn't mean if a girl sneaks into a party and sleeps with an older guy and then calls rape as this is stupid and appallingly all to common how rape is defined in the UK is strange - its unfair for someone to take the blame for something that is entirely the girl/boys fault for lieing about their age and then calling rape charges because their underage.

Now many of you will say this is too harsh but let me put it to you like this - if we have horrible consequences and charges for crime in generel, yes its unfair to many, eventually people will reolise it isn't worth the risk - if people read things like boy 16 rapes 2 children it hardly says "We take crime seriously don't do it!" - please comment on my idea - *putting it into practise may be a bit difficult*

The death penalty is too easy and trust me, spending up to 100 years potentially is worse punishment as your forced to remember your deeds every day

 

[Biek]

It is thought that the lenient sentence was partly because the boy's Christian parents forgave the criminal

lol

Im fighting the urge to make a paedophile priest reference right here.

 

[Amethyst Wind]

He's a repeat offender, so his chances of ever being let out are zero. Even if he finishes his sentence, he'll be transferred to a psychiatric facility rather than be released. He's proven he's a danger to the public and won't ever get that chance again.

I've gotta feel sorry for his victims, at the ages they're at their gonna be deeply affected by this for the rest of their lives.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

Uh. There has been so much of this I'm completely desensitised to it. Call me immoral, but I really don't care anymore.

Admittedly it is hard to care sometimes, I don't mean that in a sick, insensitive way, but with so much shit that happens if you let yourself get affected by all of it you'll never be happy.

That said, this is pretty sickening, especially the parents forgiving the rapist of all things.

Oh shock horror, they forgave him!

They should forgive him, and so should the child when he becomes an age that he can understand, and they shouldn't hate him, they should pity him.

The person who did this was 16! Imagine what was in his mind, try and empathise with the rapist himself, of course this was horrible for the boy who got raped but everyone seems to be forgetting that the guy who did this doesn't need punishment, he needs serious help.

Are you saying you could forgive someone who raped your seven year old child? That's pretty messed up if the answer is yes. Being raped can mess people up, learning that your parents effectively allowed the person to go out and do it to someone else would fuck them up even more.

Yes, the person needs help, but I wasn't commenting on his punishment, I was talking about the parents attitude. They should never have forgiven him, but the guy should be in a mental institution, not prison. That should have happened the first time he did it.

Honestly, I probably couldn't, but I think it's good that they could, and I think that it's not really his fault, he has obvious problems. I think it's ok for them to forgive him for something that he obviously can't or has never learnt to be able to control.

The rest of my post wasn't directed at you so much as the thread in general, sorry for confusion there.

 

[mightybozz]

Obviously this freak deserves to rot in gaol for a long time. I should point out though that the sentences for the second bit is not as lenient as it might seem. Labour created these "indefinite sentences for public protection" things a few years ago. They're one of the reasons the prisons are hugely overcrowded.

Basically people aren't let out until they've satisfied the parole board that they should be. It's like a life sentence only with the time periods and biases a bit different. It's a terrifying measure. Especially because, in practice, the prison budget does not stretch to providing the kind of treatment and rehab needed to get people straightened out and convince the parole board they can leave. So they stay longer and longer, as appeal after appeal falls away. And before anyone says this is a good thing, imagine it happening to you one day.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

Oh shock horror, they forgave him!

They should forgive him, and so should the child when he becomes an age that he can understand, and they shouldn't hate him, they should pity him.

The person who did this was 16! Imagine what was in his mind, try and empathise with the rapist himself, of course this was horrible for the boy who got raped but everyone seems to be forgetting that the guy who did this doesn't need punishment, he needs serious help.

You are sympathizing with somebody who raped a child, was let off the hook, and instead of straightening out, decides to rape another child within the week. And the grounds for sympathizing with him are that "he needs help".

Following that logic, Saddam Hussein didn't need to be hung, he just needed to get some help after murdering hundreds of thousands of his own people.

Agreed, Saddam Hussein shouldn't have been hung. Serious thought should have been put into discovering what in his brain made him do that.

You are not making an attempt to empathise with the rapist here because you're blinded by your anger, but evidently, this person is much different from you, I would assume that they wouldn't be as well educated as you have the fortune to be, they have obvious mental problems and they don't know how to control their own sexual urges. So yes I think you should sympathise with him, and the child.

 

[Starnerf]

Regardless of whether the parents forgave him after the first incident, he definitely should have had a mandatory psychiatric evaluation.