I'm gonna go with the flow and state the obvious Genghis Khan for being the most respected and succesfull warlord in the history of man
I'm in the process of reading Nothing to Envy. It was actually Kim il-Sung who set up the DPRK's political system, cult of personality, and propaganda machine.Darkauthor81 said:Kim Jong Il
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O_OSaelune said:I must ask...elaborate on what terrible things Gandhi did?Kevonovitch said:hitler, stalin, gandhi, sun tzu, vlad the impailer, julias ceaser.
I remember something about how he left a gold cup in the town square, daring anyone to steal it overnight.No-one did - thats how much he had reduced crime, amnnd enemy armies wouldn't cross the fields of skeletons on spikes he had at the borders.Aetera said:Definitely Vlad Tepes, aka Vlad the Impaler. He lowered crime in Wallachia to basically nil, greatly improved the economy and agricultural output, and opposed the Ottoman Empire. In Romania he's considered a hero to this day. He was ruthless and bloodthirsty, but he did some amazing things.
One of my good friends moved here from Romania, and she has a lot of respect for him.
It would be more accurate to say that his badly outnumbered, oddly poorly equipped (the first Panzers to see action generally weren't fantastic against what the allies had, most tank fights were won because German tank crews were like some kind of tank ninjas) neglectfully supplied (they used horses for logistics throughout the whole war. Look it up) and moronically led (fucking Goering) soldiers nearly took over all of Europe.TheYellowCellPhone said:I have to say Hitler, since I cannot be assed to think of anyone else. The dude nearly took over all of Europe. Europe.
Why? he was a big fake.TheDarkEricDraven said:In Real Life? Billy the Kid.
Gotta agree with you there.. He was first poisoned which really didnt work, so they shot him and left him. He survived the gunshots too, gets a few exstra bullets and thrown into the river. Later autopsy shows that he didnt drown but froze to death.Celtic_Kerr said:Rasputin actually.
He was a "Holy man" that slept with just about anyone he could for favors, power, and pleasure.He didn't uphold his holy preachings at all. He helped those who could repay him, and never did anything for someone other than him. He manipulated the system to the point where the Russian leader could barely touch him.
But he was a man of charisma, and if he had actually attempted to do great things for the country, I get the idea that he just might have. And that *****. Just. Plain. Refused. To Die!
before he was known for being peaceful (which didn't change too much) he actually was a hot-headed thug. he started riots, killed british military grunts that tried to stop the riots, went to jail more than once for violence and murder, and anti-british protesting. while he was being peaceful he (sometimes unintentionally) condoned riots and violence, he hypocritically killed his own wife, by denying her a surgery that would have saved her life (blood transfusion, some "against our religion" thing.) which, a few years later, he himself had done to save his own life. i don't remember exactly, but if i do, he was part of a gang, that beat, killed, burgled, raped, and stole from, any british supporter's, but what i do know, he was very violent and had a history of violence long before he was known as a peaceful hunger striking man in his 30's. his teens and 20's were bloody and brutal, and thats not just british propoganda from back then too.Saelune said:I must ask...elaborate on what terrible things Gandhi did?Kevonovitch said:hitler, stalin, gandhi, sun tzu, vlad the impailer, julias ceaser.
The killers poisoned cakes I believe, and the amount of poison in the cakes was supposed to kill him with a single cake, but he ate an entire batch.Severin90 said:Gotta agree with you there.. He was first poisoned which really didnt work, so they shot him and left him. He survived the gunshots too, gets a few exstra bullets and thrown into the river. Later autopsy shows that he didnt drown but froze to death.Celtic_Kerr said:Rasputin actually.
He was a "Holy man" that slept with just about anyone he could for favors, power, and pleasure.He didn't uphold his holy preachings at all. He helped those who could repay him, and never did anything for someone other than him. He manipulated the system to the point where the Russian leader could barely touch him.
But he was a man of charisma, and if he had actually attempted to do great things for the country, I get the idea that he just might have. And that *****. Just. Plain. Refused. To Die!
Gotta give him the credits of being persistent.
to quote Alan Davies From QI: "All that Happened, then the Red Light in his eye went out like the Terminator". I think They also stabbed himCeltic_Kerr said:The killers poisoned cakes I believe, and the amount of poison in the cakes was supposed to kill him with a single cake, but he ate an entire batch.Severin90 said:Gotta agree with you there.. He was first poisoned which really didnt work, so they shot him and left him. He survived the gunshots too, gets a few exstra bullets and thrown into the river. Later autopsy shows that he didnt drown but froze to death.Celtic_Kerr said:Rasputin actually.
He was a "Holy man" that slept with just about anyone he could for favors, power, and pleasure.He didn't uphold his holy preachings at all. He helped those who could repay him, and never did anything for someone other than him. He manipulated the system to the point where the Russian leader could barely touch him.
But he was a man of charisma, and if he had actually attempted to do great things for the country, I get the idea that he just might have. And that *****. Just. Plain. Refused. To Die!
Gotta give him the credits of being persistent.
They realized it didn't work and attempted to club him to death.
When they came back and he was groaning on the ground, they shot him a few times, wrapped him up in a carpet, and tossed him in a river.
When he was found, there was enough poison in his system to easily kill a man, the gun shot wounds should have killed him, and yet his hands were still positioned on the ropes, as if he were attempting to untie them. It was the exposure that finally killed him.