Thank you Deep Silver, you make us look bad >.>

[havoc33]

gaming has a problem of not being as inviting to female players as to male players. Its not everywhere the same, but it is a problem. So is oversexualisation.
I think our 'culture' is showing progress with things like this, currently in form of a bit of over compensation. Its a process you can observe often and it will hopefully regulate itself soon.

What do you mean not inviting? Gaming has been predominantly a male hobby and there is a reason for that. Research has shown that we're genetically disposed to liking different stuff, alas guys have always been more concerned about technical stuff and all that. If you put a baby girl and a baby boy in the same room with a set of toys they are genetically disposed to grab different stuff. So it's not about us desperately trying to keep girls away from it, I have rarely heard of anyone not liking the idea of more girls playing videogames. In my experience though, it's more that they don't want to, and it's only in recent years you really start to see that turning around. But then yeah, you can't be upset about the fact that most games still cater to guys, because that's been the main demographic playing it from the get go. This will change over time though, slowly but surely.

that might just affect what games girls play, but I doubt it really makes them genetically less likely to enjoy games. Playing is in the human nature, not just bound to the Y chromosome.

You are ignoring the fact that videogames started out as a techy, geeky thing that boys certainly were more inclined to pick up, and as such the games have been catering to them for years. Now that games are more mainstream its a different thing altogether, but yet it's nothing wrong with a game developer making a figure that aimed for their core audience, guys, with an obvious interest in the zombie genre.

 

[Longstreet]

My reaction to this type of news is always the same.

Who gives a flying fuck?

No really, WHO cares?

AAALLLLL these people trying to make gamers look bad almost always come down to stuff like "OMG they are objectiving woman ITS A DISASTER!!. Women should be treated equally!!11!!."

Well if woman WOULD be treated equally you would shut up about it because they are equal to men therefore it matters fuck all if a female or male is on the box art.

ITS A ZOMBIE game, pretty sure there will be dead people on it.

Also pretty sure there will be dead woman in it.

Get over yourself

 

[Jenvas1306]

You are ignoring the fact that videogames started out as a techy, geeky thing that boys certainly were more inclined to pick up, and as such the games have been catering to them for years. Now that games are more mainstream its a different thing altogether, but yet it's nothing wrong with a game developer making a figure that aimed for their core audience, guys, with an obvious interest in the zombie genre.

Never denied that fact. I've allways been very interessted and fascinated by computers, consoles and other tech, but if I set myself as an example, that could lead to ugly discussions I certainly dont want.
Today you hardly could find a young woman with no tech skills at all and women are making up a growing part of the numbers of gamers, in the cases of some games they are even the majority. So there is potential for more, it just takes the right kind of game and there needs to be more of that.
Seriously, what girl gets hooked up at gaming with one of those terrible barbie games?

Well if woman WOULD be treated equally you would shut up about it because they are equal to men therefore it matters fuck all if a female or male is on the box art.

But we arent treated equally and currently its swapping into the other direction, of being overly careful, it'll hopefully balance out in a bit.

 

[SweetShark]

Well, I think always positive for negative things like this.
For those they will buy this bloody thing, they can easily put it together with your Predator statue holding by having stick his f*cking blades to the torso like a badass!!!!

It need time to make the modification, put it will worth it.

EDIT: Btw, how big is the torso?

 

[UnderCoverGuest]

I agree with him. It's not just that I'm a proactive Atheist myself, but because there isn't a male blood-soaked, un-limbed body torso wearing a jockstrap. That would make it a completely different situation.

It would immediately go from ugly, tasteless, vilely misogynist, hideously useless crap, to simply ugly, tasteless, revolting, hideously useless crap.

 

[omegaweapon]

LOL. Do some research on P.Z. Myers and feminism in the atheist community. P.Z. Myers is the Anita Sarkeesian of atheism. Hardly a neutral observer.

it seems you are no different than the people out there (i am sorry to say it but its truth) even if he was the best biologist of the earth i still say, such a statement is utterly ridiculous

i WAS not the best scientist but i was one of them, and i know for a fact this statement have nothing to do with science, its purely personal taste of this man. he didn't even discuss anything, he used words that are not scientific at all, hearing a word like "ugly" from a so called great scientist, means he didn't even wanted to think about this matter.

however he is a great scientist so he can use such a meaningless things and everyone accept it, simply because he is a great man, that's exactly how religion work. even in science that's what's happening, some theories are proved to be wrong but since their king don't want to accept so dose the others. it seems there is no free mind anywhere.

his word is no different from a old geezer who just don't like video game and now find a excuse.

 

[TheCommanders]

This whole situation just makes me really frustrated for a few reasons:

1. Like or not, this will make many members of the public think less of gamers and the culture of gaming

2. Apparently the marketing department at this company thinks this is what appeals to gamers, so they don't think much of us either

3. It's making gamers who agree that this is stupid fight with each other in threads like these over the implications or exactly why it's stupid.

Sigh...

 

[anonymity88]

Once again I feel marginalised for something that I had no input on and have nod esire to be apart of. I don't even associate myself as a member of the 'gaming sub-culture' either. Lame.

 

[anthony87]

This whole situation just makes me really frustrated for a few reasons:

1. Like or not, this will make many members of the public think less of gamers and the culture of gaming

No it won't. And even if it did, so what? Why do so many people who play games seem to give far too much of a crap about what Average Joe #1453456 thinks about games?

 

[TheCommanders]

This whole situation just makes me really frustrated for a few reasons:

1. Like or not, this will make many members of the public think less of gamers and the culture of gaming

No it won't. And even if it did, so what? Why do so many people who play games seem to give far too much of a crap about what Average Joe #1453456 thinks about games?

Well, to answer your question (on the basis that we both clearly think it will because otherwise you won't have bothered with a justification after stating that it wouldn't) I don't care what people think of me. However, I would have to be a complete idiot not to understand that regardless of whether or not I care, they will act towards me in a fashion consistent with the way they think of me, and understanding that, I don't relish the conversations which inevitably go alone this lines of:

Person at a social event that I must be at: So what do you do?
Me: I write code for games.
Person: Oh... that's nice.
*person walks away*
*no one talks to me for the rest of the night*

If you haven't ever been in a situation like this, I envy your ability to avoid the general public, or would solicit the way you pitch your main source of income (and/or main hobby) in such away that it does not instantly label you as a social pariah.

 

[anthony87]

This whole situation just makes me really frustrated for a few reasons:

1. Like or not, this will make many members of the public think less of gamers and the culture of gaming

No it won't. And even if it did, so what? Why do so many people who play games seem to give far too much of a crap about what Average Joe #1453456 thinks about games?

Well, to answer your question (on the basis that we both clearly think it will because otherwise you won't have bothered with a justification after stating that it wouldn't) I don't care what people think of me. However, I would have to be a complete idiot not to understand that regardless of whether or not I care, they will act towards me in a fashion consistent with the way they think of me, and understanding that, I don't relish the conversations which inevitably go alone this lines of:

Person at a social event that I must be at: So what do you do?
Me: I write code for games.
Person: Oh... that's nice.
*person walks away*
*no one talks to me for the rest of the night*

If you haven't ever been in a situation like this, I envy your ability to avoid the general public, or would solicit the way you pitch your main source of income (and/or main hobby) in such away that it does not instantly label you as a social pariah.

Sounds like you and I are from two totally different worlds then. When I tell people that I work on video games that think it's interesting. Your inability to keep a conversation going has nothing to do with some shitty collectors edition that most of the general public won't even know exists anyway.

An no, I really don't think that this will makes members of the public think less of games and gaming culture so please don't tell me that that's what I think. If I did think that then I wouldn't have disagreed with you in the first place.

 

[omegaweapon]

This whole situation just makes me really frustrated for a few reasons:

3. It's making gamers who agree that this is stupid fight with each other in threads like these over the implications or exactly why it's stupid.

Sigh...

there is difference, i don't care if someone who don't know what's a video game say's "oh you are child", let him think what he want. i know who i am. let me tell you something, anyone who say's "grow up, you are acting like a child", try to cover his problem. he just say's that for a show.
and there is someone who actually know what is a video game, and know that other people didn't really UNDERSTAND it, but he still think a single statue can make or break gaming community. its like being stabbed in the back, this is what making me mad.
for all of you, i am from iran a country that nearly every single (so called) grown up think video game is like playing with toy car, its almost a crime to play video games in later ages, but i can communicate with every one of them, and its me who consider MOST of them worthless human like creatures, so i keep the time that i spend with most of them minimal.
and i play 24/7 most of the time.
i am pretty sure if you are in a party and no one talk to you, its not because you are a video game producer or gamer, its because you have neglected some of your social skills
its like a d&d game, when you don't have charisma you can't interact with other people LOL

 

[Viking Incognito]

I don't think the statue was "offensive" in the usual meaning. It was in remarkably poor taste and utterly dumb, but that is all it deserves to be called in my opinion.

 

[GloatingSwine]

You make yourselves look bad by buying pointless dust gathering tat in the first place.

People wouldn't make these fatnerd exploitation editions in the first place if they didn't know that putting a cheap bit of plastic in the box wouldn't guarantee people lining up to fork over £70 for a £40 product.

 

[Nouw]

Well, to answer your question (on the basis that we both clearly think it will because otherwise you won't have bothered with a justification after stating that it wouldn't) I don't care what people think of me. However, I would have to be a complete idiot not to understand that regardless of whether or not I care, they will act towards me in a fashion consistent with the way they think of me, and understanding that, I don't relish the conversations which inevitably go alone this lines of:

Person at a social event that I must be at: So what do you do?
Me: I write code for games.
Person: Oh... that's nice.
*person walks away*
*no one talks to me for the rest of the night*

If you haven't ever been in a situation like this, I envy your ability to avoid the general public, or would solicit the way you pitch your main source of income (and/or main hobby) in such away that it does not instantly label you as a social pariah.

Personally I wouldn't hang out with people that dismiss others based on their profession. It's their loss buddy, not yours.